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(I know this is proselytizing but) I think that Linux deserves a mention for netbooks. It runs fast on the current gen of netbook and, best of all, is free to install.
Skip Moblin - it doesn't install on most hardware.
The netbook build of Ubuntu deserves a look, even if there are a couple of oddball glitches.
Remember what the concept behind a netbook is: quick-and-dirty computing on the go. Checking email, watching movies, and surfing the web. Great deals can be had if you stick to that philosophy. If I'm going to game on a PC, I'm not going to do it on a 10" screen. Because I don't require gaming capability, a wide range of netbooks is available.
Personally, I love my little eeePC. The keyboard is decently spaced, the keys don't feel to mushy to me, and, most importantly, the hinge design provides a natural grip point for carrying the netbook from room to room without worry of damaging the hardware.
Is it the world's lightest netbook? No. But when I'm websurfing while watching TV, the bottom doesn't get hot. That is a vital selling point. These are points that need to be brought to the fore.
How hot does it get? How much battery time do you get while running Firefox and Pidgin? How durable does it feel? What is the real-world range of the wireless card inside?
I had a ridiculously hard time finding a netbook that fit my main criteria when I was looking for one. Basically my choices were HP Mini, or...wait until someone else comes out with another netbook that has a solid-state drive. Sure, it's only got 16GB on the internal drive, but I slipped a 32GB SDHC card into the reader, and now I've got a good on-the-go LDraw machine with a crash-proof model library, and I can check e-mail and such as a bonus.
@(Starman) Starman: They may have started the trend but their netbooks aren't exactly the nicest thing in the world. In fact, the original EEE PC looks ancient by comparison when you line it up against Dell, HP, Toshiba, ACER ect. Can't start a fire without a spark but the spark is usually much less impressive than the fire.
@Maori_Yelir: They may not be pretty, but they work, and they are still competitive. I've got a EEE 1005HA and my little brother has a Toshiba NB205. I absolutely hate his keyboard, my computer has a little better battery life (obviously neither get 1o hours), my laptop supports wireless N, and is a little more linux friendly.
Yeah, designs inspired from seashells and ballerinas are lame, but i didn't buy the computer because I loved it's design. I bought it because it had a great battery life and I could use it everywhere.
@(Starman) Starman: I love the original Asus EEE pc design, with the small silver logo.
If I were to buy a netbook, I'd definitely go with the original, although I'm a little bit disappointed that their netbooks aren't customizable and don't cover the features I want. From a marketing standpoint, they have far too many similar models clogging up the $300-$350 price range, and not enough products on the upper and ends of the market.
@gmrple: It's no so much the look as it is the build quality and offered features. I own a Dell Mini 10 and it feels like a brick and has an HD screen, HDMI port (Though no Ion so I admit this point is very weak) and a 6 hour battery. My friend's EEE PC feels flimsy, has a lower resolution screen, has a more cramped keyboard and was only about 30 bucks less than what I bought. That's not to say they don't have a market or that they are bad devices but this list is the BEST and nothing Asus makes would ever strike me as the best, they are, after all, a budget PC maker and they do quite well in that niche. Don't expect them to be something they are not.
@(Starman) Starman: I was going to say, where's the love for the 1005HA? I can get 11 hours of battery out of it, and the multitouch touchpad is really great.
@Nathan Obbards: This is exactly what I was thinking. The Mini 1ov (IMO) is the best best netbook out there - solid construction (Have you felt this thing? amazing), great price (base of $279 and only around $330 or so as it "should be") and perfect for OSX =)
@TKE-Egon: Paid $200 for mine from the outlet. Wait for the sales and you can get one dirt cheap. I wish I had the bigger battery, but, hell, I can get 3-3.5 hours on the small one if I turn the internet off and just work on papers.
While I do agree these might be very decent netbooks, I think 400 dollars is really pushing it for netbook. If you are going to spend that much, you might as well spend the extra 50-100 more and get a regular 12 inch laptop.
I was thinking the same thing. The threshold I have for a proper netbook is no more than 300, with 200 being a nice sweet spot. I mean, it's a netbook. It should be doing exactly what my iPhone does, except with cheaper and bigger parts.
@PurpleMonkeyDishwasher:: I picked up a 17" laptop for my wife a few months back for $350. It's nothing spectacular, but it has specs that easily place it outside of the realm of netbooks. Granted, it was a great deal at the time, but as a result I certainly can't see spending more for less.
@MagicalTrev: That's a great deal, IF you want the 17" footprint. I like the small size of my 10" Eee, not to mention the $300 pricetag. My next purchase will probably be a used 8.9" or even 7" original-spec Eee.
@Xagest: Agreed. When you can pick up an Acer Aspire AS1410 for $399 or less, and compared to a netbook it's:
- got a faster CPU
- got a bigger screen, and higher resolution too
- got a better keyboard
- got better battery life
- got 802.11n rather than 802.11g wireless
- got HDMI and eSATA unlike the netbook
- is just as thin or thinner, and only a little bigger
- got Windows 7 Home Premium rather than Starter
I think most of the justification for going with a netbook at $400 isn't there any more.
@B3ND3R: Actually the HP Mini 311 has been very successfully hackintoshed. I'm writing this message on one now. There are easy instructions and a nicely packaged installer over at [www.insanelymac.com]
@MacPro66: The mini311 is going to be 100% hackintoshable soon...
The only thing that's missing right now is the wireless card, but you can put another in it an done...
Or , of course, you could wait until someone figures out how to use the default wireless card on macosx ;)
I don't get it. Does the server cap at 2 gigabytes? I mean, if it has two slots couldn't you just add two 2 gigabyte hard drives? I mean, I'm no rocket surgeon or anything.
@Lite: hates Illinois Nazis:
Windows home servers don't mirror. They have specific redundency for shares, if you have multiple drives, but things like backups and the os are not redundent.
Or you could just buy a computer with a built-in HDMI out (like mine and most new PCs) instead of having to use stupid adapters fto make up for having a bullshit connector Apple thought up.
This is very good news. Previously, we were using a VGA adapter plus the onboard speakers to get content from my fiancee's macbook pro. We had to fiddle with the settings a lot to get it to display properly.
@Kaiser-Machead: Except that 7200 rpm drives tend to suck about an hour's worth of battery life from the laptop... Which, I'm not sure the faster drive on a Netbook would really make a huge difference.
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Skip Moblin - it doesn't install on most hardware.
The netbook build of Ubuntu deserves a look, even if there are a couple of oddball glitches.
Remember what the concept behind a netbook is: quick-and-dirty computing on the go. Checking email, watching movies, and surfing the web. Great deals can be had if you stick to that philosophy. If I'm going to game on a PC, I'm not going to do it on a 10" screen. Because I don't require gaming capability, a wide range of netbooks is available.
Personally, I love my little eeePC. The keyboard is decently spaced, the keys don't feel to mushy to me, and, most importantly, the hinge design provides a natural grip point for carrying the netbook from room to room without worry of damaging the hardware.
Is it the world's lightest netbook? No. But when I'm websurfing while watching TV, the bottom doesn't get hot. That is a vital selling point. These are points that need to be brought to the fore.
How hot does it get? How much battery time do you get while running Firefox and Pidgin? How durable does it feel? What is the real-world range of the wireless card inside?
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Yeah, designs inspired from seashells and ballerinas are lame, but i didn't buy the computer because I loved it's design. I bought it because it had a great battery life and I could use it everywhere.
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If I were to buy a netbook, I'd definitely go with the original, although I'm a little bit disappointed that their netbooks aren't customizable and don't cover the features I want. From a marketing standpoint, they have far too many similar models clogging up the $300-$350 price range, and not enough products on the upper and ends of the market.
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I was thinking the same thing. The threshold I have for a proper netbook is no more than 300, with 200 being a nice sweet spot. I mean, it's a netbook. It should be doing exactly what my iPhone does, except with cheaper and bigger parts.
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Yeah, that's why laptop hard drives are so much less expensive than desktop hard drives with the same space.
I'm pretty sure 32 gigs in a netbook drive is going to be a lot cheaper than the 32 gigs of flash in an iPhone.
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- got a faster CPU
- got a bigger screen, and higher resolution too
- got a better keyboard
- got better battery life
- got 802.11n rather than 802.11g wireless
- got HDMI and eSATA unlike the netbook
- is just as thin or thinner, and only a little bigger
- got Windows 7 Home Premium rather than Starter
I think most of the justification for going with a netbook at $400 isn't there any more.
Now at $300 I can still see it.
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None of those are easy, though due to their video chipsets. The reigning champ of easy hackintoshing is the Mini 10v (or the Mini9).
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The only thing that's missing right now is the wireless card, but you can put another in it an done...
Or , of course, you could wait until someone figures out how to use the default wireless card on macosx ;)
12/10/09
I should have said the "easiEST" was the Dell Mini10v/Mini9 because they require no wifi card swap (although for most that's certainly not hard).
The HP makes a good one, as well, but the Samsung and Toshiba, AFAIK, are exponentially more difficult due to video chipsets.
disclaimer: Posted on my Mini9 running OS 10.5.8
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Windows home servers don't mirror. They have specific redundency for shares, if you have multiple drives, but things like backups and the os are not redundent.
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are we talking gigabytes or terabytes ?
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Cause you know I bought my computer to do work, not watch movies. If I wanted to watch movies, I'd buy a DVD/Blu-Ray player.
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"The new adapter also supports uncompressed audio such as LPCM"
Is it both, or one of the other? I'll most definitely stick with my mini-Toslink cable if I'm not getting my uncompressed audio.
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R'Amen.
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Who would need two P's on a single keyboard?
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I see what you have done there.
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"APPLE 1337"?
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