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    Image of matt buchanan matt buchanan
    12:34 PM

    In reply to Criterion Adds 35 Films to Netflix Watch Instantly
    I noticed a shitload of Kurosawa flicks available suddenly. So awesome.
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    Image of TYg3r28 TYg3r28
    12/21/09

    In reply to How James Cameron Would Fake Titanic Today
    CGI is the auto-tune of Hollywood. When done right, it can be pretty sweet, or even amazing (one word: Avatar). But sometimes it just gets annoying. Really, really annoying.
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    Panzer23 promoted this comment TYg3r28 was starred TYg3r28 was unstarred
    Image of finnigan16 finnigan16
    12/21/09

    In reply to How James Cameron Would Fake Titanic Today
    I'm kind of inbetween on this one. Do I think CGI is over used in film making today? Yeah totally. Does it deserve the bad rap it commonly gets? Maybe not so much. A lot of people I know complain that CG looks fake and you can always tell, but in reality you don't actually notice a lot of the CG used in productions now. It's only when it's done poorly that you really notice, and that in turn leads to the belief that it's always bad. Although at the end of the day, I do find his statement disappointing.
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    Image of Coolmodo Coolmodo
    12/21/09

    In reply to Avatar Does Well At Its Box Office Opening Weekend, With $232.2m in Sales
    I think this is a pretty clear message to Hollywood, put effort in your movies or f**k off.

    Granted, the story was not that original, but all in all a very enjoyable movie with great special effects. I payed to watch it.

    I am not going to pay to watch the 15th remake of a film that was lame to begin with.
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    Image of The5thElephant The5thElephant
    12/21/09

    In reply to How James Cameron Would Fake Titanic Today
    I continue to be amazed at the number of quasi-luddites that are found on tech blogs.

    Music was only good when it was performed with sharpened rocks, women were only good when bras were pointy, and movies were only good when directors could focus on the story and not on all the technical stuff they weren't capable of.

    Riiiiggghhhhttt.

    Why don't we let the music/movie/book industry keep running things the way they are because they agree with you!
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    Edited by The5thElephant at 12/21/09 4:22 PM The5thElephant was starred The5thElephant was unstarred
    Image of shorty6049 shorty6049
    12/21/09

    @The5thElephant: when people start messing with art forms (which filmmaking used to be more of...) people get mad. Just like the switch from film to digital. of course it's a little upsetting to see something "authentic" replaced by something "fake" but i don't think anyone on here is really going to throw a fit over it.... they're just sharing their opinions.
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    The5thElephant promoted this comment shorty6049 was starred shorty6049 was unstarred
    Image of The5thElephant The5thElephant
    12:52 AM

    @shorty6049: I just find it annoying that every generation thinks that what happened before it is somehow "authentic" while anything that provides a new way of doing things is "fake".

    The majority of content on YouTube is crap, but that new ability has provided a number of gems that we all appreciate having. This is true of any development in any media or art form: a lot of people will use it poorly, but then some people will figure it out and make something amazing.

    If you went back in time and saw all the movies from the "good old days" you would also think a lot of them sucked, because it's only the good ones that we keep around to remember.
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    Image of shorty6049 shorty6049
    12:00 PM

    @The5thElephant: yeah, i mean, i agree, everyone longs for the past, even if it wasn't really as great as we all remember it (who really wants to go back and live in the late 80's for example?) i think the main problem people have with CGI is that when it was first created, it kind of sucked, and sort of took away from the realism of films. now it's pretty much unnoticable unless being used to make space ships and things like that where you KNOW it's not real...
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    Image of comics0026 comics0026
    12/21/09

    In reply to How James Cameron Would Fake Titanic Today
    Please tell me James Cameron isn't turning into another Geogre Lucas. We already have one that nobody wants, we don't need another.
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    VenomIreland promoted this comment comics0026 was starred comics0026 was unstarred
    Image of VenomIreland VenomIreland
    12/21/09

    @comics0026: So you mean he'll make awesome movies, but then make crappy Sequels/Prequels years later?
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    Image of comics0026 comics0026
    12/21/09

    @VenomIreland: Basically. I feel it's all summed up in the Phantom Menace review by RedLetterMedia.

    [www.youtube.com]
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    Image of Xeno Xeno
    12/21/09

    In reply to How James Cameron Would Fake Titanic Today
    The move to digital sets for hard shots is inevitable. It's the same thing as digitizing casts of thousands like in Lord of the Rings. I don't think they will ever have a movie with a cast like Laurence of Arabia. As time goes on and the tech advances eventually I think even actors will be digitized for the most part. Using motion capture for everything, directors will be able to create the very look of every character.
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    Image of strideo strideo
    12/21/09

    In reply to It's Time For Us to Fight Back Against Movie Theater Talkers
    Sorry but I don't think theft, vandalism, or assault are justified just because someone is being rude or annoying even as much as I'd like to take one of my customers' cellphones and throw it across the parking lot the next time they aren't being mindful of their situation and ignoring me during a business transaction.
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    Image of Deckard Deckard
    12/21/09

    In reply to How James Cameron Would Fake Titanic Today
    I read an online article (can't find it now) that mentions the 5th Indiana Jones installment will go back to the old movie tricks that made the original trilogy so good (was there a 4th movie, must have missed that, oh, that's right, it sucked).

    I know this is an old debate. There are some things about Raiders that couldn't be duplicated with CGI, wouldn't have the same richness or realism: snakes in the tomb, truck chase, desert and market scenes, the monkey, etc.
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    Image of Marco Marco
    12/21/09

    In reply to How James Cameron Would Fake Titanic Today
    Despair all you want. Synthetic actors (synthespians) are next. All the great actors from the past will be revived and star in cat food commercials. Mark my words...

    [io9.com]
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    NorwoodIsMyHero promoted this comment Marco was starred Marco was unstarred
    Image of NorwoodIsMyHero NorwoodIsMyHero
    12/21/09

    @Marco: I'll be all about the synthespians if when the movie isn't on they're remanded to some director's hard drive, rather than being let loose to shoot their idiotic mouths off about whatever political cause their pea brains think is important.
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    Image of ripfire ripfire
    12/21/09

    In reply to Avatar Does Well At Its Box Office Opening Weekend, With $232.2m in Sales
    So when will bluray version hit the shelves?
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    Image of xenti xenti
    12/21/09

    In reply to How James Cameron Would Fake Titanic Today
    Jaws would not be the movie it is if all of Spielberg's fancy toys had worked properly. Instead of getting exactly what he wanted in his head, he had to rely on his filmmaking talent to make a movie that was possible.

    That ingenuity is what is lost today, and is why today's blockbusters have such sterility and lack the soul of action films made prior to, say, 1994. Today's filmmakers don't need to be creative, they merely need to be imaginative.
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    dry-roasted-peanuts promoted this comment Edited by xenti at 12/21/09 1:53 PM xenti was starred xenti was unstarred
    Image of Bokusatsu_Tenshi Bokusatsu_Tenshi
    12/21/09

    In reply to How James Cameron Would Fake Titanic Today
    You know what's even sadder?
    He'd probably achieve better results by doing that.

    It's a whole other discussion, but with our movie and TV (and games) oriented culture nowadays moviemakers are finding ways to make CG scenes look even better than real life.
    Called ultra-realism by some.

    It's like, the romantic urge for realistic scenarios and stuff, for some people, are defined not by real life settings, but by what is shown in movies these days.

    There are situations where people after new experiences and places and ends up disappointed because the idea he/she had about it was enhanced by movies, photography, game or other media.

    Sorry if I couldn't be clearer... it's a hard to explain idea.
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    Image of silverdee silverdee
    12/21/09

    @Bokusatsu_Tenshi: You mean people rather have something perfect lookin' and fake than imperfect and real.
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    Bokusatsu_Tenshi promoted this comment silverdee was starred silverdee was unstarred
    Image of scottamain001 scottamain001
    12/21/09

    @Bokusatsu_Tenshi: "better than real life"? What the hell are you talking about? You sound insane, you know that.

    Look, it either looks real, or it doesn't. You can't make something better than real. If it looks any different than the real thing, IT ISN'T REAL! That's like saying something looks more white than white.
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    Bokusatsu_Tenshi approved this comment scottamain001 was starred scottamain001 was unstarred
    Image of Bokusatsu_Tenshi Bokusatsu_Tenshi
    12/21/09

    @silverdee:
    That's part of it, but the concept can go even further.

    @scottamain001:
    That's why I was afraid some people wouldn't understand. No need to get angry though, chill.

    I think it can better be explained though photography, though it can be applied to more abstract notions.

    HD demo videos, for instance, are good graphical examples of what silverdee is talking about.
    You see pictures of touristic scenarios with plenty of photoshopping, filters, bloom effects, fog, etc...

    Those effects are applied in a way, not to make them look abstract, artistic, fictional/unreal, too perfect, or whatever. They are used to "enhance" the visual experience, giving more details to things we might not notice in real life.

    Thus, ultra-realism.
    I understand it's an abstract concept... it's not exactly "better than real life", but it's the best way people found to describe it.

    And this isn't applied only to make things more beautiful... could be used to make a scenario darker, dirtier, more oppressive... to make a desert look more "dry", etc etc.

    It's not related to the reality that surrounds us, but rather the reality imagined BY us, if that makes any sense.
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    Image of Noobs-R-Us Noobs-R-Us
    12/21/09

    In reply to How James Cameron Would Fake Titanic Today
    I would like Cameron to direct the next Terminator movie. Seriously, McG sucked balls. It's time for him to bring the excitement back to the franchise.

    I bet a 3D Terminator would would be Pants worthy.
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    Noobs-R-Us was starred Noobs-R-Us was unstarred
    Image of mathematicus mathematicus
    12/21/09

    @Noobs-R-Us: He is. [www.imdb.com] Look in the "In Development" section.
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    Noobs-R-Us promoted this comment mathematicus was starred mathematicus was unstarred
    Image of theredphoenix theredphoenix
    12/21/09

    @mathematicus: That's just because he is credited with making the characters in the Terminator movies. Same thing was said for the most recent movie.
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    Noobs-R-Us approved this comment theredphoenix was starred theredphoenix was unstarred
    Image of silverdee silverdee
    12/21/09

    @Noobs-R-Us: How do they let you into the theater without any pants on?
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    Noobs-R-Us promoted this comment silverdee was starred silverdee was unstarred
    Image of Noobs-R-Us Noobs-R-Us
    12/21/09

    @mathematicus: I did not know that thanks. Let's hope he ends up doing it for real. He can't let a clown like McG destroy his baby.
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    Noobs-R-Us was starred Noobs-R-Us was unstarred
    Image of Noobs-R-Us Noobs-R-Us
    12/21/09

    @theredphoenix: According to IMDB, he's directing, writing and producing Terminator 5.

    [www.imdb.com]
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    Noobs-R-Us was starred Noobs-R-Us was unstarred
    Image of Noobs-R-Us Noobs-R-Us
    12/21/09

    @silverdee: Perhaps you should pose that question to Jason Chen?
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    Noobs-R-Us was starred Noobs-R-Us was unstarred
    Image of icy_one icy_one
    12/21/09

    @Noobs-R-Us: Any citation on that? IMDb is user-submitted material. Anyone could have gone in an inserted that. IMDb is less reliable than Wikipedia is for future events.
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    icy_one was starred icy_one was unstarred
    Image of Noobs-R-Us Noobs-R-Us
    12/21/09

    @icy_one: No idea, I tired clicking on the link to find out more about it but IMBD wanted me to pay.
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    Noobs-R-Us was starred Noobs-R-Us was unstarred
    Image of icy_one icy_one
    12/21/09

    @Noobs-R-Us: The only "source" I could find on it via Google was an April Fool's joke claiming that because Cameron loved Salvation so much it sparked his interest in making a fifth film.
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    icy_one was starred icy_one was unstarred
    Image of Navin R Johnson Navin R Johnson
    12/21/09

    In reply to How James Cameron Would Fake Titanic Today
    I watched the DVD extras of Hellboy 2 the other day. Affirming for me the genius of Guillermo del Toro.

    So many of the effects that could have been done with CGI are done instead with painstakingly detailed sets and models. The "Troll Marketplace" behind the scenes blew my mind. Watch it.
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    Navin R Johnson was starred Navin R Johnson was unstarred
    Image of Misfit7707 Misfit7707
    12/21/09

    In reply to How James Cameron Would Fake Titanic Today
    I'm currently a student of 3d computer animation, and make no mistake, this is disheartening to me.

    CGI is a tool, that above all, needs to be used responsibly!
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    Mark Wilson promoted this comment Misfit7707 was starred Misfit7707 was unstarred
    Image of heroineworshipper heroineworshipper
    12/21/09

    In reply to How James Cameron Would Fake Titanic Today
    The CGI Titanic scenes looked horrible. We've just gotten so used to squishy motion & bland textures & the cost of a ticket has risen so much in 13 years, CGI is the only economical choice.
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    Mark Wilson promoted this comment heroineworshipper was starred heroineworshipper was unstarred
    Image of Bandit Bandit
    12/21/09

    In reply to How James Cameron Would Fake Titanic Today
    Didn't Kate Winslett almost drown filming Titanic the original way? If you can use CGI and achieve the same visual results while spending less money and taking fewer risks with the cast, it seems like a natural decision. The only question is whether you can get your actors in role while they are standing in front of a green screen instead of a real ocean.
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    Mark Wilson promoted this comment Bandit was starred Bandit was unstarred
    Image of elSpanielo elSpanielo
    12/21/09

    In reply to How James Cameron Would Fake Titanic Today
    Next he'll say he would've made the T1000 CGI instead of actually controlling liquid metal... pshshs directors!
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    Thee Sea promoted this comment elSpanielo was starred elSpanielo was unstarred
    Image of dry-roasted-peanuts dry-roasted-peanuts
    12/21/09

    In reply to How James Cameron Would Fake Titanic Today
    Screw Titanic, how would he do Piranha Part 2 today?
     Reply
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