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And I care not for what the pinch-to-zoom apologists say. If you're pinch-zooming with one hand, the other hand is holding your phone. Otherwise, it's finger gymnastics.
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Deep breaths. Go to your happy place and deep breaths.... Calm...
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If Google offers it at around $200 without a contract, that could spark some interest in folks not having a contract (which would shake up the industry). It's not a terribly implausible plan since T-Mobile, Google's go-to partner for their Android test runs, just started hyping their Even More Plus plans that are slightly cheaper if you buy the phone up front and then you have no contract.
And, I suppose there's nothing saying an AT&T (or other carriers) version isn't coming. But the FCC filing for this phone didn't indicate anything but T-Mo.
We'll see, I guess.
12/18/09
I have an iPod touch as well and used to browse on it a lot before I got the Droid which rendered the iPod basically useless, I used multi-touch a lot but now that its gone I don't really miss it and it never presents any problems.
Is multi-touch just another iCatfighting weapon?
I do however think that multi-touch with a virtual keyboard is near-essential though. Once you get the single touch rhythm it's manageable, but multi-touch would make it far better.
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(Multitouch in some other apps would be nice though, particularly musical ones and games.)
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Don't get me wrong, I completely understand multi-touch's usefulness in other apps and other interfaces...
but for zooming... on a device thats made to be used almost entirely in one hand... why is it so important to people!?
I have the multi-touch option in the Dolphin browser, and the first thing I did after trying out said gimmick, was turn the normal zoom buttons back on. Cause I wanted to be able to zoom in with... you guessed it... ONE HAND!
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I prefer the control of pinch zooming, so I will be disappointed if this phone doesn't have true multi-touch. Why is this so damn hard to implement for anyone but Apple?
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I'm pretty sure all versions of android 2.0 and above will have Multi-Touch abilities, they just won't be built into the browser or google maps yet (i don't know why they're scared of apple, they just are). But you can always download an alternative browser like Dolphin, which does support multi-touch zooming (and it works on the Droid right now)
12/18/09
Palm got in some heat over certain implementations of multitouch when they first came out, but as I understand it, the specific pinch-to-zoom gesture is not something Apple has a patent on.
Engadget had a pretty dang good write up on the subject a while back.
Or was there something else I missed? I know you tend to know your stuff when it comes to Android.
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Of the 3 on my Droid, only 2 are full - the other is pretty bare.
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Three home screens (plus the drawer) is plenty for arranging the applications that you use frequently. However, I also have the quick-search widget, the power control widget, and Astrid's task list summary widget on my homescreens. Each takes up four icons worth of space. If you wanted to add some bigger (or just more) widgets, you'd suddenly find yourself running out of space real fast.
Of course, the obvious caveat is having the processor speed to run all those widgets at the same time, but I think this phone can handle that.
Admittedly, though, 7 would start to get cumbersome to swipe through, especially just to see a widget.
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I will agree that application management is a little wonky. It can be hard to know when stuff is open and when it's not, or where pressing a certain button will take you. But for the most part, it works. You rarely ever want to be multitasking with more than 3-4 active apps anyway.
Also, while it's kind of a hidden feature, you can hold down the home key and it brings up an alt-tab-like menu of the six most recently used apps. It's occasionally handy.
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Other than its speed, Android 2.1 and lack of a physical keyboard, it's just another Android phone (albeit an extremely sexy one).
Not sure about battery life, but my friend has yet to have any complaints. He wouldn't let me take any video of the phone sadly - I wanted to take a few showing how fast the processor is.
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As for the memory... a 4GB card included seems ok. For around $40 you can toss a 16GB card into it if you need the extra room for music. It wouldn't be of any use for games though (except for backing up large games maybe, to reinstall later).
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Replacing my G1 with better hardware interests me greatly, but I've never really taken a shine to the soft keyboard, whether it be Android or the iPhone.
Maybe I'll bite it and grab a Nexus One, but what I really want to see on T-Mo is an updated G1 or a Droid with a better keyboard.
Multitouch? I could really care less. The functionality is there, it's just not built into any US handsets. I'm sure our fine European neighbors will get a nice Nexus One with multitouch, and all power to them.
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And that's probably more information than you needed.
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Also, I should revise my first statement in the thread to say that multitouch is built into US handsets, just not the native Google apps. I have several Android apps on the market and have experimented with multitouch on the G1, but never had a good reason to release anything with multitouch support.
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Read the original LINK and i wish these blog sites would stop spreading false info!!
Pinch to zoom is not in the native google apps, thats all.
Any app downloaded from the market will have the option. This includes 3rd party browsers, games ect.....
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a) It matters to most people.
b) It won't be hacked within 30 seconds of release.
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Maybe you should stop and think about what is really wrong with your thought process that you would be one of thousands of people with the same ridiculously stupid theory.
Maybe you should accept that Apple makes a nice smartphone that people like.... Rear back your fanboy/anti-apple horse for a second and think about how silly it sounds.
And also dont put your blinders on when you read the tons of great reviews for other phones on this site, but seem to forget about them so you can soapbox about how its not fair that everyone loves apple and nobody loves my xxxxx gadget.
Sorry for the rant, but you can only read so much of this garbage before it really starts to annoy you.
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maybe you should stop and think about what is really wrong with your life and maybe your blood pressure won't go up so high over minute things.
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Now that you have won, what do you think you are going to do next?
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Yeah i took it there, cause you werent willing to.
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If i was angry i would say fuck a bunch and probably get banned. Instead im elated to be able to help you lead a better fuller life of gadget appreciation.
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my life of gadget appreciation is fine, my wife has an iphone and i'm glad she does, I play games on it when she makes me visit her boring ass family
but just for the sake of you stopping, you are absolutely correct, you have enlightened me, thank you!
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Sure its easy to tell i like apple gear, but there is plenty of other gear i like also, and at my job i have to support a glut of different devices, some i like and some i want to run over with the forklift. I do find it interesting you mention perspective in this debate, because that is exactly the problem. Narrow minded perspective.
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I am glad your wife has an iPhone and would be glad if she had a droid, that wasn't the issue at hand. If i offended anyone in any way with my rant, i apologize for that.
I just see that same thing every day, it gets old, like seeing the stories about death panels, except here i can comment on how ludicrous it is.
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Seriously though, if blog comments about Gizmodo's obvious love of the iPhone (which is fine) bother you this much, maybe its time to rethink things a bit. They are after all, just blog comments.
12/18/09
Bury your head in the sand all you like, but the fact of the matter is this is not an uncommon statement on all tech blogs that even run a small amount of apple stories.
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I'm not burying my head in the sand. I've read the same comments about Apple paying blogs you are referring to. I just ignore them with a bemused smirk. What I'm saying is that if these things bother you so much maybe your letting trolls and conspiracy theorists get the best of you.
People who post those insane conspiracy theories about Apple paying bloggers are either trolling for fanboys and don't really believe them, or are so idiotic as to believe they're true. In either case the best thing to do is ignore them, and its most certainly the best thing to do not to let them bother you.
Otherwise you end up ranting at someone who just called called Gizmodo editors iPhone fans and questioned their bias, which is not unreasonable. It may not be true, but its not unreasonable either.
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Again, I apologize for targeting vinterchaos, but i still stand by the assertion that while the editors of gizmodo may be apple fans i dont see this huge bias that people talk about. I do see an increasing love for android as the minutes tick by, which is a-ok with me.
So ill settle down, you will settle down, this whole damn blog is out of order..... And ill try not to be an unhinged pig feeding gangster about all this. :)
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So take that!
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Nice.
I don't really see a strong bias myself and I kind of have a sour taste from Apple in my mouth right now. I recently worked in a company where people who shouldn't have been spending as much as they were on MBPs and iPhones had the audacity to complain about their wages when they would have been able to do everything they needed to do with $300 netbooks and dumbphones.
I do think bias could be here at Gizmodo in some small way, but its basically impossible to prove, which is why throwing about accusations of bias is pointless.
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