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WebOS 1.3.5 Update Available for Palm Pre and Pixi Now
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Fractal the Meek
02:18 AM

In reply to WebOS 1.3.5 Update Available for Palm Pre and Pixi Now
Allows downloading of future updates over 2G when necessary. Incidentally it also reduces current updates over 3G and WiFi to 2G speeds.

Get off my bandwidth, hogs.
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pagan_god
12:48 AM

In reply to WebOS 1.3.5 Update Available for Palm Pre and Pixi Now
Calendar app is definitely way faster now-- basically zero delay when switching from day to day. Haven't seen any other major changes, will be testing battery life tomorrow.
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Fractal the Meek
02:20 AM

@pagan_god: Do bear in mind it's battery management when in weak signal areas. Definitely testing from my Batcave office tomorrow.
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smackswell
12/28/09

In reply to WebOS 1.3.5 Update Available for Palm Pre and Pixi Now
Best. WebOS. Update. Ever.

(I kid; haven't found the inevitable glitch that's gonna make me hate this update yet, but I know it's lurking somewhere.)
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smackswell
03:16 AM

@smackswell: Update: Found it.

My EV-DO symbol keeps disappearing and reappearing, along with signal strength. Letting me use data once every couple of minutes. I'm done with this Pre experiment. Jumping ship with the new T&C change. This is absurd.
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wxcore
12/25/09

In reply to The 20 Essential Palm Pre Apps
this is probably the worst list of "essential" apps I've ever seen. No NewsRoom for RSS reading? Fucking TEATIMER?! An app that tells you when TEA is done? You can find that by going to any random website. ToppleBall is a great game but there are better ones that have much nicer graphics and use the accelerometer much better as well: ParaTrooper and Tilt GT. Plus you recommend Where and Yelp and Fandango. Where does what both the other do, and Flixster is the better movie app anyway.
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freakout
12/26/09

@wxcore: You probably could have put it more nicely... but I approve!
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sjsamphex
12/25/09

In reply to The 20 Essential Palm Pre Apps
Classic isn't free. It's just there to download in the catalog but you're gunna have to pay 30 bucks eventually.
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diamonddnice
12/25/09

In reply to The 20 Essential Palm Pre Apps
I own a pre. And sorry there are NOT 21 essential Apps.

WebOS is great. Better the IPhone as an OS. Iphone OS is basically a big launcher page. But the apps are nonexistent and some features like the normal music player suck ass.

And sorry if you're talking Essential apps it's criminal to ignore the better homebrew apps of Music Remix, Dr. Podder, Ampache Mobile. It's telling that half of these were launch apps. They are not adding many good apps since. Like there's no good facebook app. Twee is good but A tea timer? Really?

Again WebOS is fine. It's the lack of other things.
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Aleki
12/25/09

In reply to The 20 Essential Palm Pre Apps
It should be noted that although the Pre's Media Remote app is free, it requires a $5 PC-side app.
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ird
12/25/09

In reply to The 20 Essential Palm Pre Apps
Where the hell is Preware?
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liveallnight
12/25/09

In reply to The 20 Essential Palm Pre Apps
My Pre is no more! Battery issues and all, the Droid has taken over for me.
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Killjoy
12/22/09

In reply to Are Smartphones a Weird Holiday Gift?
See the funny thing is that I've seen people, actual people in real life using things like the G1 and the iPhone as dumbphones, just talk and text. They know the internet is on there, to be sure, but "it's kinda small and slow..." so they don't really use that part. People who've owned smartphones for months and haven't heard of an app store or a market, or an app for that matter.

"Oh, there's a compass in there?"

So I think people who can't handle a smartphone (or didn't want one, if you can entertain the thought) still adapt just fine. For them it's no worse than dealing with a dumbphone, really - poky menus are poky menus. They still have a usable phone, and if they care at all it's a bit of a status symbol. Merry Christmas, Grandma.
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geolemon
12/28/09

@Killjoy: I've got a smartphone (android G1, hacked for use on AT&T) with no data plan. In fact, I have internet blocked through AT&T so I don't get any billing oops's.

The thing is, at least 95% of the time I CAN use it as a full smartphone - because it has wifi, and that's everywhere (of course at home and work).

I've got all kinds of apps on here, most of them don't require an internet connection (and those that do - 95% of the time I can use them too - whenever I'm in wifi).

And when I can't - I've still got voice and text. No worse than a dumbphone.

It doesn't seem like that would be such a bad thing to gift a [unlocked] *device* like this to someone, to replace their current phone, without disturbing their current plan - and offering them the *option* to upgrade their plan if they wanted.

Why not??
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Killjoy
12/28/09

@geolemon: It's good to know Android apps will work on the G1 on AT&T to that extent even with no data plan. Beyond being helpful information to share, that's relevant to my current situation.

As a gift that'd be expensive though, unless it was an old phone you could give away, since you'd likely buy it unsubsidized. Better give it to someone you love!
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geolemon
12/28/09

@Killjoy: That's what I did - bought my G1 used - already unlocked (and rooted) - for $100 from a friend of mine who bought it used for $150...

from what I understand, T-Mobile's 3G is different than AT&T's 3G, so if I did add a data plan to this phone, I'd be limited to 2G.

But given the availability of wifi out there, having 2G doesn't seem like it would be that much of a penalty - you'd just be using it in the 5% of the time you aren't in range fo wifi anyway.

Of course (just like for me now), I couldn't put the Google Maps navigation into Street View mode and drive like I'm the virtual Google van with 2G, but still... lol
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redman042
12/22/09

In reply to Are Smartphones a Weird Holiday Gift?
Given the contract issue, I can't imagine getting a smartphone for anyone other than my wife or kids (if I had kids that were old enough and responsible enough).

If you know someone who already wants a smartphone on a certain network, then getting them a gift card to help with the costs might make sense.
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Curves
12/22/09

In reply to Are Smartphones a Weird Holiday Gift?
I am not getting one, but would love one for sure. Adult or not, I still love to get toys for Christmas.
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Jeb_Hoge
12/22/09

In reply to Are Smartphones a Weird Holiday Gift?
I'm thinking about finding out what the lowest-cost plan for an Eris would be for me; more out of curiosity than anything, but I'd be using birthday (in January) money for it, so technically, it'd be a gift.
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Malfunktion v2
12/22/09

In reply to Are Smartphones a Weird Holiday Gift?
Just got a Droid for X-mas. The transfer was pretty simple since I already had a smartphone (BB Storm)
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Lite: hates Illinois Nazis
12/22/09

In reply to Are Smartphones a Weird Holiday Gift?
Gifting someone a smartphone who isn't a spouse or direct relative is kind of like a promise ring. "Here is an expensive piece of tech. I plan to keep you around for 2 years or until I can afford to buy the contract out because I'm tired of you."
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NyC88Rican
12/22/09

@Lite: hates Illinois Nazis: Very true, the only times I ever hear about someone getting a phone is because their parents got one for them. However, I'm finding that a lot more of my friends are getting smartphones because the tmobile and sprint plans are cheap with data nowadays. (Also,it seems like all my rich friends and their brothers all got or are getting new iphones... )

Smartphones are so much more mainstream now with all the commercials and advertising. Parents see their kids like that so they get it. Not to mention the fact that I see a lot more parents and older crowds carrying around the iPhones and Blackberrys and countless other devices. I looked around a cafeteria today and saw a Storm, Pre, 3 G1s, a couple Blackberrys and some iPhones. It really is getting to that point of communication that it is another standard and very worthy gift, to anyone.
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Lite: hates Illinois Nazis
12/22/09

In reply to Are Smartphones a Weird Holiday Gift?
Not to mention, the last time I gave someone a phone that I had picked out for them, they dumped me 3 weeks later and I still had to pay on their contract. At least, until they remembered I was paying the bill and had it transferred to their name. (3 months)
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iSmithx_wants_Nexus_One
12/22/09

In reply to Are Smartphones a Weird Holiday Gift?
Buy one without a contract, duuuhhh
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travisco_nabisco
12/22/09

@iSmithx_wants_Nexus_One: Yeah, I'm going to buy someone a $400+ smart phone for Christmas! Not likely.
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Kaiser-Machead
12/22/09

@travisco_nabisco: People have purchased far more expensive items for Christmas: cars, plane ticket to (insert exotic location here), so a $400+ smart phone sans contract is not that much of a stretch.
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travisco_nabisco
12/23/09

@Kaiser-Machead: Fair enough, I guess I just don't have the disposable income to buy anyone, not even myself, a $400+ phone
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Jeremy Lee Ingram
12/22/09

In reply to Are Smartphones a Weird Holiday Gift?
I would imagine they are focusing on those that are buying for a family member in their family plan. Other than that, it seems like a pain in the ass.
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Lite: hates Illinois Nazis
12/22/09

In reply to Are Smartphones a Weird Holiday Gift?
I guess I look at it like giving a car to someone. Unless they specifically told me exactly what they wanted, AKA it wasn't a surprise, I wouldn't purchase a smartphone for someone. It's a deeply personal purchase based on what 'feels' good to you.

I have, given someone a card that said, "Good for one free smartphone of your choice." to a loved one. Which included me standing around on launch day for the original iPhone to get their present for them.
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Ruthless, If you let me
12/22/09

@Lite: hates Illinois Nazis: I've done the same, minus waiting around on launch day for the phone.

I've also received a "good for one free laptop of [my] choice" card.
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Jack L. Peterson
12/22/09

In reply to Are Smartphones a Weird Holiday Gift?
I am 99.9% sure I am receiving the HTC Touch Pro2 from U.S. Cellular (There was a $350 bill last month, which could have only been augmented by a new phone purchase).
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Lite: hates Illinois Nazis
12/22/09

@Jack L. Peterson: You mean other than a billing error because US Cellular is known for raping its customers and getting sued by State AG's for shady contract practices in the past?

Just sayin...
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