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It's like they don't realize that the entire movie was non-scene pred within 24hrs of its release.
The appropriate punishment would have simply been to hold them in the theater until they were the last ones and then release them, with no police escort, to the waiting horde of twilight fans.
Also acceptable would have been forcing them to watch the movie on a constant loop A Clockwork Orange style.
also, how come all the dudes in this movie look like chicks? has it really gone this far? do i have to wait 10 years for masculinity to come back into vogue?
really the SNAFU here is this - theater or no theater, are you seriously going to sit down in the future and watch yourself sing happy birthday? or are you going to put that on your facebook? and assume that other people would give two shits? or what?
the only thing more inane than singing happy birthday... is recording it and replaying it later.
I have a decent job and I pay for my media, movies, music etc.... sometimes I pay for crap and it pisses me off, but that's why the interwebs are so handy, we get to voice our opinions about everything, and review everything.
So some of us will get stung by crap purchases and let everyone else know it's crap.
The best way for consumers to affect the MAN is with our wallets.
My guess is the reason most of you use the torrent system to pirate is because you dont have the money to purchase products you want.
Even though the large pirates operate outside the bounds of the law little pirates still act as promoters of content by pirating it.
Maybe the MAN needs to figure out a way to help the have nots get the stuff they want, ad supported maybe??
You know what scares you straight? Watching people get arrested and some sent to jail. One bust in 99 sent a few up the river and a massive one in 2001 sent plenty more.
I really really do not understand why anyone could be allowed to go to jail over recording copyrighted material, especially when there is no clear intention to profit from it. How are these people direct dangers to society?
@puhsitch: Yea, let's stick those filthy bootleggers with the rapists, thugs, and murderers. They'll fit right in and survive ehh? Crooked ass legal system...
@puhsitch: They dont know that. You're just assuming. Any form of copying or bootlegging is illegal.
It doesnt even matter what movie it is. The fact of the matter is that it is hard to draw the line of what is accepted and what is not. It is a slippery slope indeed.
Imagine if this lady is found innocent. Then that sets a precedent for the next fool that shoots 3 minutes in a theater and gets caught.
@hhkim515: No need for a slippery slope...just establish a penalty that makes more sense. And it seems like there's a pretty clear line that sits in front of "illegally profiting from copyrighted material."
What's the assumption, by the way? That this girl is not a danger to society?
@puhsitch: The penalty makes perfect sense for the crime. Criminal use of a motion picture exhibition should carry a serious penalty.
Now if you want to get into an argument about what she should be charged with thats a whole different story and there is plenty of time at this point to change those charges (which there is little doubt will happen).
I'm assuming the assumption (does that make an ass out of everyone or still just me?) was that she wasn't going to attempt to profit from it.
@tande04: Yeah, I guess the penalty appropriateness comes down to philosophical differences. My opinion is that when a crime has no *inherent* negative effect on anyone else, and especially when there is no indication of nefarious intention, jail time shouldn't be on the table.
And with the other piece, I think that assuming the assumption cancels it out, so I'd assume that we're all good again. Wait a second. Damn it, that didn't last too long.
I don't think I was assuming anything in the first place, though, since she wasn't being charged for anything involving resale of the recording. I can be blamed me for assuming that she's not a serial killer, too!
@puhsitch: The conversation is largely done now that its not on the main page (yet I still have 10 replies so maybe not) but I'm just going to say its not a philosophical difference. What you're really getting at is the charges applied which is a wildly different subject than we started out at.
To be even more honest I'm not even sure where we started. I get going on one of these things and I just keep it rolling :p
I think my point was that the penalty meets the crime that she was charged with. Saying that isn't the crime she should be charged with is completely different than saying the "system is flawed." Complaints can be amended charges can be changed. Throwing out what is actually a perfectly legitimate charge for a perfectly legitimate crime isn't the answer. She was charged with reselling it. Its inherent in the "criminal use of" part of the charge.
I think I may have been making a point about the whole thing being an after she got caught cover at the time but that was a lot of caffeine, nicotine, and sleep (or lack there of) ago.
@Sandeep Murali: No she didn't, cause obviously she watched the whole film first, and now she'd getting jail-time on top of that (not that she doesn't deserve it for watching Twilight in the first place)
12/05/09
The appropriate punishment would have simply been to hold them in the theater until they were the last ones and then release them, with no police escort, to the waiting horde of twilight fans.
Also acceptable would have been forcing them to watch the movie on a constant loop A Clockwork Orange style.
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the only thing more inane than singing happy birthday... is recording it and replaying it later.
12/04/09
So some of us will get stung by crap purchases and let everyone else know it's crap.
The best way for consumers to affect the MAN is with our wallets.
My guess is the reason most of you use the torrent system to pirate is because you dont have the money to purchase products you want.
Even though the large pirates operate outside the bounds of the law little pirates still act as promoters of content by pirating it.
Maybe the MAN needs to figure out a way to help the have nots get the stuff they want, ad supported maybe??
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Learn2differentiate.
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Drown it in the ocean (although, you would have the raising waterlevel then...)
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(Though I did watch the movie)
12/04/09
Then I remembered that I'd heard there is a birthday party scene in the movie.
Then I realized that I knew helpful facts about Twilight.
Then I shot myself.
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It doesnt even matter what movie it is. The fact of the matter is that it is hard to draw the line of what is accepted and what is not. It is a slippery slope indeed.
Imagine if this lady is found innocent. Then that sets a precedent for the next fool that shoots 3 minutes in a theater and gets caught.
12/04/09
What's the assumption, by the way? That this girl is not a danger to society?
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Now if you want to get into an argument about what she should be charged with thats a whole different story and there is plenty of time at this point to change those charges (which there is little doubt will happen).
I'm assuming the assumption (does that make an ass out of everyone or still just me?) was that she wasn't going to attempt to profit from it.
12/04/09
And with the other piece, I think that assuming the assumption cancels it out, so I'd assume that we're all good again. Wait a second. Damn it, that didn't last too long.
I don't think I was assuming anything in the first place, though, since she wasn't being charged for anything involving resale of the recording. I can be blamed me for assuming that she's not a serial killer, too!
12/04/09
To be even more honest I'm not even sure where we started. I get going on one of these things and I just keep it rolling :p
I think my point was that the penalty meets the crime that she was charged with. Saying that isn't the crime she should be charged with is completely different than saying the "system is flawed." Complaints can be amended charges can be changed. Throwing out what is actually a perfectly legitimate charge for a perfectly legitimate crime isn't the answer. She was charged with reselling it. Its inherent in the "criminal use of" part of the charge.
I think I may have been making a point about the whole thing being an after she got caught cover at the time but that was a lot of caffeine, nicotine, and sleep (or lack there of) ago.
12/03/09
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My bad!
12/03/09
Good thing they're locking her up so she can't harm her brain anymore by watching this garbage.