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I'd still recommend the Microsoft Sidewinder X8 over this.
A) It's $15 cheaper.
B) It's wireless with a use-and-charge cable.
C) Has the best side buttons I've seen on a mouse yet, decent sized and in a vertical top/bottom placement angled to fit your thumb.
Downsides are that some people but likely not everyone might find it too big, the official images lie: it does not have that awesome blue glow from under the rear grills.
Other than that it does all this does (besides the adjustable side buttons) and more for less dollars.
I continue to be a loyal Razer customer because they seem to be the only folks making high-end ambi mice. I mouse left-handed, so all these top end righty ergo-mice are useless to me.
@Sian:
I'm right handed but I'd still prefer using a right handed mouse with my left hand than some of Razers ambi mice. I hate using the Lychesis with either hand, most uncomfortable mouse I've ever used.
I'm seldom in the market for a new mouse/keyboard, as I'm cheap, but I wasn't aware the target market for this kind of product still bought wired mice. I have a hard time believing you can't find something comparable that is wireless.
I'd like to ask some people who might read this: what is the reason you have not gone wireless? (I consider RF to a usb connection wireless, i dont know if thats standard opinion or not)
@Darren Pinney:
The gaming market has always shunned wireless mice and keyboards because of two factors:
A) Charge
B) Delay
The charge issue is obvious, you don't want to be running out of juice in the middle of a game and a lot of wireless mice did (and some still do) require you to change out the batteries or put in some kind of dock. Newer wireless gaming mice use play-and-charge cables though where you can just snap in a charging cable in a break in the action (if your mouse is giving you low power warnings).
The delay issue is that for hardcore gamers the wireless lag was interfering with game play. Not something I ever put too much stock in it but I know that's why a lot of gamers never did (and some still won't) touch wireless. New wireless gaming mice though have made this issue almost non existent.
The main reasons why wireless mice were unsuitable for gaming have been addressed now though so I'm sure we'll see a greater shift towards it in the future. For now and the near future though wired mice will still have a market.
Wireless keyboards on the other hand are never likely to become prominent. They're useful for operating media PC's and their ilk but beyond that they don't have much of an impact on normal PC usage. While a wireless mouse has the advantage that there's no wire to interfere with the smooth movement of the mouse a keyboard doesn't have that difficulty. Your keyboard is likely going to be in the same place 90% of the time so that wire is never going to make a difference. Why add the risk of your batteries going flat when it's easy enough to have it plugged in all the time. Plus most modern gaming keyboards are backlit which would drain power like a bitch.
How does it stack up against the sidewinder? In my opinion the sidewinder is the best mouse you can buy... but that is because I have bear paws and it's a larger mouse that feels great for bigger hands.
Definitely love the thicker cable. My old Razor cable broke where it meets the USB plug (a casualty of laptop gaming). Now it's held together by bad soldering and half a roll of electrical tape.
I would really love a bluetooth mouse shaped something like this- I use a stock Dell XPS wired mouse that I LOVE (Despite its cheapness, it fits my hand perfectly), but the side buttons are dieing on me. The only nearly- normal sized bluetooth mouse I have seen is that Sony monstrosity that's shaped like a hoof.
@njdevil: I have a Logitech MX Revolution bluetooth mouse but I had to get the keyboard and mouse set to get it. They don't sell it separately. It's full-sized. Not shaped like this one but I find it comfortable.
@FigNinja: Thanks! looking at them on eBay now- $170 is a lot for a keyboard+mouse combo just for the mouse, but eBay has them for $70, might buy it and resell the keyboard.
@SmokeyRivers: I've got a Mamba now, I'm kinda meh on Razer. It has some nagging things with it, now that they have win 7 drivers my main gripe is a squeeky wheel. Wish it had tilt too. It's an ok mouse, but I wish Logitech had an MX wireless gaming mouse with a bunch of buttons on it.
@bitgod: I don't find that I use the tilt wheel very much, so missing that isn't a big deal. I and my wheel is quite silent, so maybe that is just an issue with your mouse.
Performs well though and is quite comfortable. I am glad to not be using the mighty mouse, that is for sure.
"Look, we're giving you less and charging more. You wanna know why? I'll tell you why. For each mouse we got four drawers full of extra frills like buttons and LEDs going to waste because of your damned Spartan aesthetic. So, we gotta charge more to store all these goddamned unused frills. Happy? Now, STFU and enjoy your damned unfrilled mouse."
Will it actually let you use the scroll wheel as a middle button? I bought a logitech bluetooth mouse not that long ago and the button programming is absolutely stupid. I would love to replace it. #razerorochi
@00000000: Apple should lose rights to the Mighty Mouse name. There's nothing mighty about it. It doesn't have a mighty sensor, doesn't have mighty ergonomics, and doesn't even have a mighty scroll ball. #razerorochi
I have Razer headphones I got from woot! that I love, and I use the case to hold my camera. I think I paid 12.99 for the headphones, which is the most I ever paid.
12/02/09
A) It's $15 cheaper.
B) It's wireless with a use-and-charge cable.
C) Has the best side buttons I've seen on a mouse yet, decent sized and in a vertical top/bottom placement angled to fit your thumb.
Downsides are that some people but likely not everyone might find it too big, the official images lie: it does not have that awesome blue glow from under the rear grills.
Other than that it does all this does (besides the adjustable side buttons) and more for less dollars.
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I'm right handed but I'd still prefer using a right handed mouse with my left hand than some of Razers ambi mice. I hate using the Lychesis with either hand, most uncomfortable mouse I've ever used.
12/01/09
I'd like to ask some people who might read this: what is the reason you have not gone wireless? (I consider RF to a usb connection wireless, i dont know if thats standard opinion or not)
12/02/09
The gaming market has always shunned wireless mice and keyboards because of two factors:
A) Charge
B) Delay
The charge issue is obvious, you don't want to be running out of juice in the middle of a game and a lot of wireless mice did (and some still do) require you to change out the batteries or put in some kind of dock. Newer wireless gaming mice use play-and-charge cables though where you can just snap in a charging cable in a break in the action (if your mouse is giving you low power warnings).
The delay issue is that for hardcore gamers the wireless lag was interfering with game play. Not something I ever put too much stock in it but I know that's why a lot of gamers never did (and some still won't) touch wireless. New wireless gaming mice though have made this issue almost non existent.
The main reasons why wireless mice were unsuitable for gaming have been addressed now though so I'm sure we'll see a greater shift towards it in the future. For now and the near future though wired mice will still have a market.
Wireless keyboards on the other hand are never likely to become prominent. They're useful for operating media PC's and their ilk but beyond that they don't have much of an impact on normal PC usage. While a wireless mouse has the advantage that there's no wire to interfere with the smooth movement of the mouse a keyboard doesn't have that difficulty. Your keyboard is likely going to be in the same place 90% of the time so that wire is never going to make a difference. Why add the risk of your batteries going flat when it's easy enough to have it plugged in all the time. Plus most modern gaming keyboards are backlit which would drain power like a bitch.
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11/24/09
Loving the Mamba so far, and even though it isn't mac compatible, works ok with it as well.
11/24/09
The Death Adder has a mac version which is sitting on my desk right now and I think it's a great mouse as well.
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Performs well though and is quite comfortable. I am glad to not be using the mighty mouse, that is for sure.
11/10/09
That's about how I'd expect it to go. #razerabyssus
11/10/09
Anything less @MSRB at launch would be infared. I have seen ~$30 laser mice, but their laser's die after about 6 months.
So yes. It probably is worth $50, if you want a laser mouse. #razerabyssus
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10/16/09
Those finger-grooves have me doubting a little, but feeling is believing I guess. #razerorochi
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Anyway, this seems better than the similarly priced but poor performing wireless Apple Mighty Mouse.
10/16/09
o.o
Also, did Apple lose rights to the Mighty Mouse name? #razerorochi
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[us.kensington.com] #razerorochi
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Gotta check out some reviews first.