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Dealzmodo: HP Desktop, Monitor, Laptop, Netbook and Router, all for $1200 (!)
Time Capsule and Airport Extreme Grow New Antennas to Get Faster and Stronger
Netgear RangeMax WNR3500L Wireless-N Router Packs USB, Linux Punch
D-Link DIR-685 Wireless Storage Photo Frame Router Review
Glowing Router Clock Tells You The Best Time To Use Bandwidth
Linux's DisplayLink Drivers Turns Routers into Functional PCs
Apple Time Capsule Review
Google May Be Working on Its Own Router
Novatel's Portable MiFi Does 3G Wi-Fi in a Beautiful Package
Buffalo Might Be Back in the Cheap Router Business With Patent Victory
Zero-Cost Gadget Upgrades For the Next Great Depression
Build Your Own Linksys WRT54GL Wi-Fi Monster Truck
San Francisco Hunting For "Mystery Device" on City Network
Lightning Review: Linksys WRT610N Dual N-Band Wireless Router
Linksys Should Re-Think Their Router Naming Conventions
Bazooka-Like Wi-Fi Predator Snags Distant Wi-Fi Signals
D-Link DIR-855 Router Blasts Wireless N Over Dual Channels
Time Capsule Gets Obligatory Strip Down
Pocketable Sprint 3G Wireless Router Coming March 1
D-Link DPG-1200 PC-on-TV Player Brings Lousy Amateur YouTube Video to Your TV

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10/21/09

In reply to Dealzmodo: HP Desktop, Monitor, Laptop, Netbook and Router, all for $1200 (!)
Edit.... Nevermind

[www.bestbuy.com]
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D2G
10/21/09

In reply to Dealzmodo: HP Desktop, Monitor, Laptop, Netbook and Router, all for $1200 (!)
The BB internal code name for the package is the "Hero Bundle." #hpbestbuypackage
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spannu
10/21/09

@D2G: That's ridiculous on multiple levels. #hpbestbuypackage
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yule-and-bellow
10/21/09

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all this for less than I paid for my low end MBP after (apple) taxes, wow. #hpbestbuypackage
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Monty
10/21/09

@yule-and-bellow: I enjoyed the comment, but I admit these always leave me puzzled. Are we saying that Windows is crap because they have to sell their stuff so cheap to get anyone to buy it, or are we saying that Apple is way too expensive? Maybe it is meant as a double joke. In any case, I laugh both ways and have a good time, basically, because I don't know any better. #hpbestbuypackage
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yule-and-bellow
10/21/09

@Monty: I'm not into taking shots too at companies too much. I just think 3 Windows 7's for the Price of One OSX is one awesome deal. #hpbestbuypackage
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jfwaterburry
10/21/09

@yule-and-bellow: Ok... i'm just gonna say this:

I really like Win7, and am super excited about the launch. I'm in the process of choosing my newest Win7 machine.

However, I truly believe that MS is trolling tech site comment boards in a very serious way leading up to this launch. This may not be an example, but I believe it's happening.

I know brands hire agencies to do this, because I'm somewhat familiar with the process and have been involved with it before.

For example: Over at Engadget, virtually EVERY pro-Apple comment has been demoted. I don't believe this would have been the case a year ago.

I much prefer the Giz's handling of comments (promoted vs. hidden), but even it's not impervious to such deliberate "attacks".

And, might I add, I felt the same thing around the time of the Zune HD launch, especially on Amazon.com.

It's a shame because it's deceptive. It's so clearly engineered to skew comment boards & product reviews at a time when MS's products are actually very high quality (i.e. they shouldn't need to do it).
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caine3320
10/21/09

@jfwaterburry: Did you notice that so far (as of the posting of this comment) the only shown comments for this article are a.) one that mentions that you get all that for less than a 13" MBP and b.) that someone else doesn't know whether MS sucks or Apple is overpriced and they don't know any better?

I'd say Giz has a mild case of Engadget's Syndrome. #hpbestbuypackage
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spannu
10/21/09

@caine3320: Right now, in fact, there's zero comments on this article about Microsoft sucking at all, hidden or not. Actually, all the articles about Windows 7 just seem to have less trolling from Apple fanboys since it's technically not even out yet. Things that legitimately suck, like IE or Windows Mobile have many more negative comments. #hpbestbuypackage
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AndPreciousLittleofThat
10/20/09

In reply to Time Capsule and Airport Extreme Grow New Antennas to Get Faster and Stronger
All well and good, but not what I needed to know. Does it use direct or indirect cooking methods? #timecapsule
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KTK1990
10/20/09

In reply to Time Capsule and Airport Extreme Grow New Antennas to Get Faster and Stronger
I did see that they now say the time capsule has a server grade hard drive in it. #timecapsule
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DennyCraneDennyCraneDennyCrane
10/20/09

@KTK1990: What I want to know is what that little phrase is supposed to MEAN?

Is is a 15k SAS drive, about the bare minimum I'd consider "Server class"? Is it marketing-speak for "fast", maybe a 10k SATA? Does it just mean that the new drives won't drop dead after a year and a half, like the old ones? Are they just charging more for it to put it in the same 'class' as a server drive?

WHAT DOES 'SERVER CLASS' MEAN!? #timecapsule
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UnderLoK
10/20/09

@DennyCraneDennyCraneDennyCrane: In this case I would think it's in reference to its lifespan (hours).

When you see lifespan outside of servers they are assuming that the drives will not be running 24/7/365.
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MrBlahBlah
10/05/09

In reply to Netgear RangeMax WNR3500L Wireless-N Router Packs USB, Linux Punch
for $140, you might as well throw in a few extra bones for airport extreme. I refuse to pay over $100 for any router, even if that means sticking with my Tomato-based WRT 54GL
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IN THE FACE!
10/05/09

@MrBlahBlah: blah blah airport blah blah

At least we got that out of the way...
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EdaFonzie
10/05/09

In reply to Netgear RangeMax WNR3500L Wireless-N Router Packs USB, Linux Punch
@MaDog That's completely irrelevant, N is backwards compatible with B and G, that was always present in every pre-N spec and definitely in the finalized spec.

Having an N router means you get to use all bands but can enjoy the latest spec if you have supported devices.
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badhatharry
10/05/09

@EdaFonzie: Yeah, B and G stuff will work with N, but what madog is saying is that the B and G items will drag your speed down to those levels. Your N devices will be wasted.
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yuki333
10/05/09

@badhatharry: Not exactly, I run an N router in my house and I'm the only one with an N compatible card so It's set to send out B, G, and N frequencies , but while they're connection is 54Mbps mine is usually around 144Mpbs. Yes it is diminished somewhat by broadcasting both, but I still have greater speeds, not to mention that it runs on the 5.0Ghz spectrum so suffers much less interference from some phones and microwaves.
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madog
10/05/09

@EdaFonzie: As (that's some) badhatharry said, it's not completely useless and is backwords compatible with previous mainstream wireless specs. It's just that I'm sure there are many other people in a similar position as myself that have a cell phone, game console, and old computer using the G spec, and a newer computer using N spec.

When anything other than N is connected to an N router, it physically slows down the entire wireless network to become backwords compatible making the N device not access at it's potential. Whether it actually matters or ones Internet connection is fast enough to utilize it is a different story, but it's why dual band routers exist if I wasn't clear on that before.
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IN THE FACE!
10/05/09

@madog: Yeah, since the tech specs on the site don't tout this as being dual-band I'm presuming it isn't. I've got the older WNDR3000 which is dual-band, but not gig-LAN. and DD-WRT works fantastic on it, if this one was dual band I would consider upgrading...

When working with a dual band router, you simply set one radio to be N only, and the other to be G/B or compatibility mode (depending on your software), DD-WRT sets them up as completely seperate APs with diff SSIDs and everything, you can even setup virtual APs based on one radio or the other with additional SSIDs for different auth protocols/DHCP servers/subnets/etc...

it is amazingly versatile.
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badhatharry
10/05/09

@yuki333: Yeah, but edafonzie wasn't talking about dual band, just the fact that G and B will work with N.
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madog
10/05/09

In reply to Netgear RangeMax WNR3500L Wireless-N Router Packs USB, Linux Punch
At this point I find N routers to be useless for many people. Anyone with multiple computers or other devices that use wifi but most likely still have B or G cards in them, like an iPhone or a Wii (or just about every phone and game system capable of wifi), wouldn't benefit to the fullest of the N spec. The fact that an N router will slow down the network if anything less than an N device is connected to it defeats the purpose in many scenarios (at least to my understanding).

If anyone is thinking about getting an N enabled router I would suggest getting a dual band router that can support both specs (G and N) individually and at their fullest speeds. At least until everything is N in the next couple years (when the next spec is being released), or unless you know all of your devices use it, or at the very least the B/G devices you own are not active at the same time as the others (and then when the speed is necessary).
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Xeno
10/05/09

In reply to Netgear RangeMax WNR3500L Wireless-N Router Packs USB, Linux Punch
This is kinda tasty. I think I want to setup a N network in my new house for gaming and streaming WMC. I don't know if I want to wait that long though. Anyone have a N router that they really like?
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sirsycho
10/05/09

@Xeno: I really like the new Airport Extremes. I've had several N routers starting with the craptastic Linksys WRVS4400N (RMA'd a dozen times). I've also used the WRT600N and the Dlink DGL4500. They all had problems with dropping connections or just failing entirely after a couple of weeks or months. The Apple is by far the most consistent and reliable I've tried thus far... Simultaneous dual-band FTW!
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Xeno
10/05/09

@sirsycho: That's a possibility. I have had issues with that stupid application you have to run for configuring them in the past though. Why can't they be configured on a web page?
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sirsycho
10/05/09

@Xeno: I hear ya. I have a mac or two around the house nowadays so it wasn't too bad for my situation. My MSI Wind Hackintosh with Airport compatible WiFi card works much much better now.

I'm tellin ya, the only other "router" that worked as reliably was my dual-homed Linux box, but I'm trying to be greener these days (read: lower my power bills).

@torgreed: Totally agree on the WRT54G, I have one of those as well and a couple WAP54G, that I use at work with DD-WRT and they're rock solid. But alas, I wanted N at home and nothing has worked as well as the Airport so far, though in all fairness I haven't tried any Netgear stuff yet.
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IN THE FACE!
10/05/09

@Xeno: Netgear WNDR3000, near-current DD-WRT, rock solid, encrypted PPTP VPN, DynDNS, advanced routing is a snap, dual-band N|b/g, wake on lan deamon, QoS, fully functional (and correctly supported) uPnP.

Only drawback is no gig-LAN, and a giant blue LED array bubble that (unless they recently fixed it) you can't turn off when using DD-WRT...

Can't buy them retail anymore, but can prob find new ones on ebay hella cheap.
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MePerson
08/24/09

In reply to D-Link DIR-685 Wireless Storage Photo Frame Router Review
It would be cool if it could display real-time network/bandwidth info on the display, or maybe capture every image that goes through the router and display them on the screen.
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Curves
08/24/09

In reply to D-Link DIR-685 Wireless Storage Photo Frame Router Review
Its kinda nice that the photo frame is there, but in the case of my limited hardware space, I have no room for this to sit upright and so its sort of useless on my rack of basically unpretty hardware.
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Geisrud
08/24/09

In reply to D-Link DIR-685 Wireless Storage Photo Frame Router Review
Can't you guys just settle for a cute picture of a bunny and be happy?
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The Intern
08/24/09

In reply to D-Link DIR-685 Wireless Storage Photo Frame Router Review
Suffice it to say, considering the week's theme, I am stunned and disappointed this does not have a built-in cutting board or ice-cube dispenser.

Does it at least get hot enough to cook an egg on?
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GitEmSteveDave_ My Brute Dojo Code CDIAFIFE
08/24/09

In reply to D-Link DIR-685 Wireless Storage Photo Frame Router Review
Couldn't they have put a data screen in? I think it would be cool if you could output something like vital data(bandwidth usage, bandwidth left, etc...) right on the router.
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FalconFour
08/24/09

@GitEmSteveDave_MakesUJump!Jump!: ... Bandwidth "Left"? o.O
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GitEmSteveDave_ My Brute Dojo Code CDIAFIFE
08/24/09

@FalconFour: Some ISP's give you a monthly "cap". Exceed and you pay$$$$
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Bokusatsu_Tenshi
07/15/09

In reply to Glowing Router Clock Tells You The Best Time To Use Bandwidth
I'll agree with the crowd here... some of those concepts are.. well, ok, in a design standpoint.

But calling those "the routers of the future" is a bit too much.

They are, and I'm being very nice here, on the same level as mods or furniture designs.

Some might look cool, some might make you think "I want one of those". But then comes the price, and even if it is fairly cheap, you'll say: Meh. I'll just stick to the standard ones. Maybe make a mod myself.

Also, tentacle jellyfish raping your laptop's ethernet port? It's not only completely useless to have something like that at home, it's also ugly (IMHO), weird/stupid, and most important of all: NOT the future.
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GitEmSteveDave_ My Brute Dojo Code CDIAFIFE
05/19/09

In reply to Linux's DisplayLink Drivers Turns Routers into Functional PCs
After seeing the Belkin N1:

I admit I have had my interest piqued in having a router with an LCD or similar display to give me stats. Maybe it's that I like flashing numbers and spedometer like graphics cuz I'm a man w/ADHD, and shiny flashy things are awesome. Like the light on my optical trackball. it's so cool when it goes into powersave mode and dims. I like trackballs more than using a mouse because unlike a.......
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WaffleTeamStrike! v26.00
05/19/09

In reply to Linux's DisplayLink Drivers Turns Routers into Functional PCs
On which principle(s) does one refuse to use dd-wrt? On the principle that by flashing your router with dd-wrt you have extra options, more encryption options, and awesome compatibility...? I'm assuming you just typed that to "fit in". Meh, I use dd-wrt and it owns the bastard-like GUI and features of my normal Linksys router. I will use dd-wrt on any router I can and I think everyone should. No, but Robert feel free to willingly comply to crappy firmware.
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GitEmSteveDave_ My Brute Dojo Code CDIAFIFE
05/19/09

@WaffleTeamStrike: Look where he posted from. Those people don't like far out and radical things! They like sending karma and digital plants. ::shivers::
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ripfire
05/19/09

In reply to Linux's DisplayLink Drivers Turns Routers into Functional PCs
Question is, how useful would it be?
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Nick
05/18/09

In reply to Linux's DisplayLink Drivers Turns Routers into Functional PCs
i can't even get my router to work with my ps3 anymore. someone come put linux on it for me and make the darn thing useful again. what else am i gonna do with the pos? watch blurays? ha
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Professional_Iceberg_Hunter
05/18/09

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But can it run Crysis?

Oh yes Gizmodo staff, I broke the rules. I am a man who follows no laws. Grr.
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Matingmonkey is a proud eMac owner
05/18/09

@Protocol X: My $25 Linksys WRT54G router could kick your router's ass!
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Muhhamed Ali
05/18/09

@Matingmonkey: DUDE! i have the same router! lets work together to not just kick, but

ANNIHILATE his ass!
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JawzX2: Hoon The Earth @ www.cafepress.com/jawzx2
05/18/09

@Polzin: Your Friendly Neighborhood Bagel Farmer:

@Matingmonkey

guys! I was just contemplating the idea of a WRT54G cluster! I wonder how2 many it would take to get on the top 10 super computer list... as a bonus they already each have five ethernet ports, so they are well connected ;)
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SegamanXero
05/18/09

@Polzin: Your Friendly Neighborhood Bagel Farmer:

I have a WRT54GS v6, which is apparently a gimped Linksys router that very few custom firmware makers dare to touch. But I managed to take a gamble and put DD-WRT micro on it and now have a monster of a router! all three of us should team up and annihilate his ass so bad that it will be like he never existed at all...
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SegamanXero
05/18/09

@JawzX2: Now with 100% more employment!: hmmm yes that would be awesome... Idk how much we would need, but I have seen an option in my DD-WRT firmware to over clock my WRT54GS v6... So maybe over clock each router by 200mhz and have like a stack of 500 Linksys routers... yea that would be frickin' shweet!
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