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@Andre Ondre: Wait! This product can still be salvaged! Just move the Walkman logo to the right a bit so that Mickey has an ironic hipster moustache! The iPod will be dead in no time! Sony, are you listening?!
@Davy Grolton: Alot of luxury cars have more intuitive ways of doing things like the bmw circle thing. I personally think a gesture based car ui would work.
I'm not really a big fan of touchscreens. They may be OK on phones and such, but when it comes to operating a car, they don't seem like the most driver friendly.
Great thats all I need. I can see it now, Jo Schmo Jr (six years old), who steals everything, grabs my keys and runs off to play. As he is walking through the garage the door handle pops out. He scids to a stop and the cogs in his little head start turning. Now he can't help but get in dads car because now its open AND it has that really neato computer TV thing in the dash. So he jumps in and closes the door and as he is trying to figure out how to turn the monitor on the FRIGGIN CAR STARTS!
I am going to call prison and reserve a room. For him or me, its too early to tell.
all i know is the passengers with me love to try to touch everyone button on the center console. darn drunks. i can just imagine someone just taking their whole hand and sliding it across this thing and driving me nuckin futs. and because of that i ain't gonna buy one. nothing to do with the fact i don't have $49000 lying around.
As much as I like the way Tesla's going (and I do), something kind of bothers me about the fact that you'll be diminishing your vehicle's range by running the radio, turning on the lights, etc.
I'd like to see something like the current hybrids' braking systems used to capture some of the kinetic energy of the car to recharge it during normal driving.
A plug-in that also can get some recharge of its electric battery from braking would be fantastic.
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@SirNotAppearing: And let us not forget that the Reatta was handbuilt by Detroit's finest craftsmen. I'm assuming this'll be hammered together by a bunch of Californian slackers between waves.
And, without the benefit of the normal ability to "find by touch" what conventional knobs/buttons/sliders provide--and being forced to take your eyes off the road while driving to do whatever--this will work safely because...? Please, someone answer this.
@bosskev: I'm thinking the same thing, but there are options. Besides haptic feedback, you could use tones or voices to indicate what's happening. It would be annoying as hell, but it would work.
Well, yeah, if this was like Data's console from Star Trek: The Next Generation, it probably would have some kind of physical/haptic/force field feedback finger positioning system...but I kinda doubt this one does, and certainly not an effective one. Not good enough to prevent being forced to divert your eyes from the road repeatedly for several seconds at a time.
"...tones or voices to indicate what's happening. It would be annoying as hell..."
Yeah, it sure would be annoying as hell.
Sometimes I don't think designers think about their creations in real-world usage. All they think of is the "ooh, ahh" factor...like this design.
Mmm... as pointed out in the last thread, buttons and knobs serve a purpose.
Am I supposed to flick to change the temp on that? Isn't that going to be incredibly difficult in a moving car? Normally I could change temp, seat heat, etc. without looking. Seems like at the very least that would be more difficult without a tactile button knob, etc.
Amen to that.. I've got a Jeep with touchscreen MP3 player and I'm always jabbing at the wrong track (it's a real bouncy car). I have to sorta rest my fingers on the dash and use my thumb to hit the screen.
It's VERY annoying, but at least they didn't touchscreenify the volume and skip buttons like the Tesla otherwise I'd be downgrading.
RFID = easily stolen. It would be better if we had to insert a key fob, or other device into the dash. Just a little bit harder to steal. RFID to operate or unlock a car is too much of a security risk.
@SirNotAppearing: Umm...RFID = low strength radio. You walk up to someone with a device that can receive the signal, grab the signal and get the info you need. Then later walk up, use another device to broadcast and you just stole the car.
There were security guys demenstrating this with the RFID chips used in the new passports.
@mlmorg: Arphids are not secure at all. With less than $250 in hardware you can copy them. Once cloned, they can steal your car with no effort.
Push-button ignition anybody?
Of course, the car remotes these days aren't much better. Hell, some manufacturers use a finite number of unique remotes and just hope nobody tries to brute-force the signal and drive off with your car.
Really, most anti-theft devices amount to slowing crooks down. That, and the fact that most people don't steal cars.
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I'm not sure if LCD screens should replace physical buttons in a car.
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I am going to call prison and reserve a room. For him or me, its too early to tell.
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I'd like to see something like the current hybrids' braking systems used to capture some of the kinetic energy of the car to recharge it during normal driving.
A plug-in that also can get some recharge of its electric battery from braking would be fantastic.
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Well, yeah, if this was like Data's console from Star Trek: The Next Generation, it probably would have some kind of physical/haptic/force field feedback finger positioning system...but I kinda doubt this one does, and certainly not an effective one. Not good enough to prevent being forced to divert your eyes from the road repeatedly for several seconds at a time.
"...tones or voices to indicate what's happening. It would be annoying as hell..."
Yeah, it sure would be annoying as hell.
Sometimes I don't think designers think about their creations in real-world usage. All they think of is the "ooh, ahh" factor...like this design.
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Driver: Computer! Volume to 25 percent!
Computer: Deflating tires!
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I'm a designer.
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Am I supposed to flick to change the temp on that? Isn't that going to be incredibly difficult in a moving car? Normally I could change temp, seat heat, etc. without looking. Seems like at the very least that would be more difficult without a tactile button knob, etc.
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Amen to that.. I've got a Jeep with touchscreen MP3 player and I'm always jabbing at the wrong track (it's a real bouncy car). I have to sorta rest my fingers on the dash and use my thumb to hit the screen.
It's VERY annoying, but at least they didn't touchscreenify the volume and skip buttons like the Tesla otherwise I'd be downgrading.
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There were security guys demenstrating this with the RFID chips used in the new passports.
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I dunno, it's the same place I usually keep my keys.
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Way to have a little kid's junk on the top picture, though.
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Take a tip from your car-loving friends: lighten up!
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Yet another great reason why we can't cross-post, and why we can't have nice things. Don't worry, player, I got your back.
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Yeah, pretty fraking cool that they chose Nirvana for the press shots.
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Yeah right.
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RFID detection is awesome -- but what if I wanted to just sit in the car without it turning on? haha
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Although, unlike an ICE, an electric engine hardly consumes power when idling.
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Push-button ignition anybody?
Of course, the car remotes these days aren't much better. Hell, some manufacturers use a finite number of unique remotes and just hope nobody tries to brute-force the signal and drive off with your car.
Really, most anti-theft devices amount to slowing crooks down. That, and the fact that most people don't steal cars.
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