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I'm a bit mixed about French presses. While they're generally better than a shitty coffee maker, a good one will beat it hands down. They just don't make as velvety smooth coffee as a good machine will. On the plus side though they're a hell of a lot cheaper.
FYI, if someone is looking for a very retro analog Leica, better than the M7 is the MP.
It's got the old cloth mechanical shutter, is built a little more luxuriously and doesn't need a battery for anything but the meter.
Then again people looking for a camera like that, keeping in mind that with a couple lenses is going to top $10k, are probably not looking for my comment for clarification.
There's also a song about being on the moon, called "The Fucking Moon" by the Evolution Control Committee, that's pretty much an audio version of the Onion article. [blip.fm]
They also did a couple amazing mashups of Herb Alpert and Public Enemy years ago. You can listen at [evolution-control.com]
Oh Onion. An apocalyptic disaster that would make even Jesus Christ say "JESUS CHRIST!" can wreak havoc can occur, and I'd probably still chuckle at that article.
@lpranal: geez, what the hell have you done there?
My favorite is the aeropress, just for simplicity. Crema from a $25 non-electric coffee maker - Brilliant! Second favorite is my Saeco machine with upgraded boiler, and a Make magazine inspired hydraulic tamper. It makes better coffee, but much bigger hassle to drag out and prepare.
@Lizard_King: $60 espresso machine w/ PID controller. First thing I go for is my aeropress (upside-down brew technique), espresso when I have the chance to take my time and do things properly. Definitely need to upgrade a conical burr grinder though- I had to modify my cheapo GE burr grinder to go fine enough
@Lizard_King:
Nah, Olympia Express Cremina. Since 1967 they are considered to be the finest of the home lever espresso machines, and so by extent, home espresso machines.
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That Leica defines classic. The dollar figure, however, defines ridiculous. Unless it automatically forwards my photos to National Geographic for instant publication, nothing justifies that price.
@Weihovah: I own an original Leica M4 that I paid far less for. They're fantastic cameras, but I doubt that this one takes photos that are $4500 better than a Nikon D90.
since that camera is from the 60s/70s, i bet if you adjust for inflation, you'll get a few comments here saying how overpriced it is. if you want to compare photos from a m7 to a d90, let's say a d90 has a useful life of 100,000 clicks (i think that's very conservative). as DPYu said, the m7 will last far more than 100,000 clicks but we'll use that for consistency. take the $4500 difference and divide by 100,000 clicks and you'll get a difference of 4.5 cents per photo (yea, there's film and development costs but that's a whole other debate). so are photos from a m7 $0.05 better than photos from a d90? that's not a difficult argument to make especially if you're printing larger than 5x7
@Weihovah: I think I paid about $800 for the M4 a few years ago, and yeah, it still takes great pictures 40 years later. I attribute that to the lack of electronic systems to fail.
I'm not arguing, Leica makes amazing cameras that will probably still be taking great photos in 50 years.
My issue is that this Leica is a point-and shoot, targeted at amateurs. It doesn't have some of the options that an actual professional is going to want on a camera that he's using to do his job.
For me, it would be very hard to justify spending this much on an amateur camera, but I'm obviously not Leica's target demographic.
For very wealthy people who want the absolutely best amateur camera in the world, that will still take pictures after they run over it with their Range Rover, then yes, this is a great buy. :D
(I can't remember for sure, but I think Nikon guarantees their high-end D-line for around 300k clicks, at least for the shutter and mechanics.)
@Segador: I don't like the terms "professional" and "amateur" when describing photographers. All it says about someone is whether they make money from their photography. I think what's more important is what kind of photography a person is doing. Someone in a studio setting will benefit greatly from DSLR's, since the DSLR system is adaptable and flexible and digital post processing allow folks to get their photos just the way they want it. Whereas someone doing candid photography and street photography will want something discrete, and has no dependency on batteries ala the Leica M6/MP and other non-Leica mechanical rangefinders. Both of these groups of photographers can be considered professional, but they have entirely different needs/desires in a camera.
As Dan said above, it's a fantastic "pro-sumer" camera for serious photo enthusiasts who can afford it. I can't, and my amateur photo skills don't justify the price. In any case, I highly doubt that there are many disappointed M7 owners.
Maybe I should have just said that in the beginning. =)
@Segador: if it's 300k clicks, the difference per photo will be <2 cents (sorry, i'm studying for a finance test and i'm looking at everything as a math problem).
when my disposable income and photography skills are high enough, i'll get a leica and it'll definitely be worth it
Ahh yes, The Onion. The only 100% guaranteed source of laughter for me. Honestly, I don't know how they do it.
My first guess is they sold their souls to the devil for insane comedic talent. Any other theories?
@Zanzan42: BUT, Colnel Potter made Max recite the oath of president when he wanted to re-enlist when his girlfriend left him for the Sausage King of Ohio.
Let's be clear, folks: even if it's stalker-like, meant as stalking, or full-out stalking, this is the way the world communicates now. Why NOT get w/ your kids this way?
@Jeff Yablon (apparently posting as BrandiLagnarok): Thanks for the spam! Try to use relevant hyperlinks (not just a link to your blog/site), as indicated in the how to comment article of this site. Nobody likes more spam.
@acarr260: And you should have your star revoked for even replying, you should have just ignored it, but now everyone has to see it because you promoted it.
Although I have kids of my own my 12 year old niece is the only kid that I have some authority over that is on Facebook. When she added me I told her that I would correct the spelling in all of her status postings until she learns to spell like a real person.
My kids are too cool for Facebook and Twitter. They have their friends come to them in person. Their social network is usually sitting on my couch playing Xbox and eating my food.
@dallasmay: When your living room is stuffed to overfilling with teenage bodies; your fridge is being drained of anything containing sugar or caffeine; and the entire neighborhood refers to you as ‘mom’…
Yah, I think their friends think they are pretty cool.
@nekola18: There was actually someone at the office who wouldn't stop asking if anyone else saw Apple's new "MacBook Wheel" that he heard about online..... He had no idea that The Onion is full of tricky humor jokes.
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It's got the old cloth mechanical shutter, is built a little more luxuriously and doesn't need a battery for anything but the meter.
Then again people looking for a camera like that, keeping in mind that with a couple lenses is going to top $10k, are probably not looking for my comment for clarification.
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They also did a couple amazing mashups of Herb Alpert and Public Enemy years ago. You can listen at [evolution-control.com]
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@Lizard_King: perfect blend of old and new. 2nd favorite way to make coffee, after my wonderfully hacked espresso machine
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My favorite is the aeropress, just for simplicity. Crema from a $25 non-electric coffee maker - Brilliant! Second favorite is my Saeco machine with upgraded boiler, and a Make magazine inspired hydraulic tamper. It makes better coffee, but much bigger hassle to drag out and prepare.
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Nah, Olympia Express Cremina. Since 1967 they are considered to be the finest of the home lever espresso machines, and so by extent, home espresso machines.
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I got a 100yr old Arcade Burr grinder mounted on the wall. Just gotta get around to roasting my own beans.
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I am sure. However, the Aeropress is more like a thoughtfully designed french press. Just as portable, simple and cheap. It's like French Press +.
I take mine camping, take it to work, use it at home, etc. It gets a workout.
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since that camera is from the 60s/70s, i bet if you adjust for inflation, you'll get a few comments here saying how overpriced it is. if you want to compare photos from a m7 to a d90, let's say a d90 has a useful life of 100,000 clicks (i think that's very conservative). as DPYu said, the m7 will last far more than 100,000 clicks but we'll use that for consistency. take the $4500 difference and divide by 100,000 clicks and you'll get a difference of 4.5 cents per photo (yea, there's film and development costs but that's a whole other debate). so are photos from a m7 $0.05 better than photos from a d90? that's not a difficult argument to make especially if you're printing larger than 5x7
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I'm not arguing, Leica makes amazing cameras that will probably still be taking great photos in 50 years.
My issue is that this Leica is a point-and shoot, targeted at amateurs. It doesn't have some of the options that an actual professional is going to want on a camera that he's using to do his job.
For me, it would be very hard to justify spending this much on an amateur camera, but I'm obviously not Leica's target demographic.
For very wealthy people who want the absolutely best amateur camera in the world, that will still take pictures after they run over it with their Range Rover, then yes, this is a great buy. :D
(I can't remember for sure, but I think Nikon guarantees their high-end D-line for around 300k clicks, at least for the shutter and mechanics.)
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As Dan said above, it's a fantastic "pro-sumer" camera for serious photo enthusiasts who can afford it. I can't, and my amateur photo skills don't justify the price. In any case, I highly doubt that there are many disappointed M7 owners.
Maybe I should have just said that in the beginning. =)
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when my disposable income and photography skills are high enough, i'll get a leica and it'll definitely be worth it
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My first guess is they sold their souls to the devil for insane comedic talent. Any other theories?
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Then who will have the last laugh...????
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But Jamie Farr is of Lebanese descent, so nice mashup with that Lebanon, OH thing.
Toledo has some good Lebanese food, in addition to Tony Packos (which you can order online):
[www.tonypackos.com]
Go Mud Hens!
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She stopped typing like shit within about 3 days.
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Yah, I think their friends think they are pretty cool.
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