@bagellord: Although DX11 for programmers is a good and moderate thing, for everyone else the best way to think of DirectX is look at earlier versions where big differences were had. DirectX 6-7 were comparable to say N64 and Dreamcast, better but it's a close analogy, and DirectX 9-10 is comparable to Ps2/Wii/Xbox360/PS3.
DirectX 9 wasn't impressive at the start and everyone scoffed at it but eventually it became what gaming is today. So, if DirectX 11+ gets a good boost from Win 7 and the next phase of Console hardware, you'll have a decent leap there as well.
It's all about effects now. Polygons won't get fancier by much until 2-3 generations from now as they do a good enough job at fleshing out things and it's mainly textures and effects that bring everything to life. #directx11
Just because one game, or even several games don't look much different in their dx11 and dx10 modes, it doesn't mean that the potential isn't there and that games won't take advantage of it. dx11 isn't magic and it doesn't just enchant games into better graphics #directx11
It seems to me that the only thing going on here is complaining. No one is ever happy with any OS. Im very satisfied with 7, vista, and XP. It seems every OS gets better and better. There is many different features in both that are great. Its hard to sell a product that 100% people are going to like and want it to function to their like's. Love it for what it is, Not what you want them to do just for you. Remember they are creating a OS for the world not for just joe smoe in moms basement who is mad because the view in the control panel is not to his/her standards.
If DRM was going to be a hurdle with this os, I would definatly have had issues. I operate in the grey area all the time, and have had no issues.... There are plenty of apps that allow you to do whatever you want, ie. clone cd/dvd, convertx to dvd, utorrent, ect... This operating system is arhhh-rite with me :) the only annoyance is the uac, once you tell it to stop messing with you it is as perfect as is avalable. (windows 7 ultimate x64)
@KLanD: And they took forever because Vista's perpetual delays had convinced them they had plenty of time, and it was a moving target up until the last year or so of development.
In other words, yes, it's still MS's fault. Just indirectly. Blame them for making the Duke Nukem Forever of OS's.
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My guess is that the reason that Windows Vista tested well was because Microsoft optimized the test machines - when Vista came out there were all kinds of problems with hardware compatibility and it was slow as molasses, never mind the annoying interface issues. What Microsoft did right this time is release it for a huge public beta that allowed all the kinks to be worked out before official launch, and to let users see that it actually runs faster than Vista even on old machines and netbooks. And that's also important for the market, since it will appeal to users who didn't ever upgrade from XP to Vista in the first place.
Windows 7 will do very well, utlimately, though the fact that we have almost a year before we have to pay for the upgrade will probably stretch the income out over a longer time than previous launches.
@weatherman: Just to be clear, Windows Vista did in fact have a public beta (4 different releases in fact: Beta 1, Beta 2, Pre-RC1, and RC1). And, personally, in both Vista and with 7 betas I switched my primary OS on my main computer to the beta version of Windows with the RC1 release because I felt it was stable and quality enough to use. But, the Vista betas were never as popular for one, and I believe at least one of the releases had a download cap; so it probably didn't get the widespread testing that we saw with 7. That, and Microsoft learned from their mistakes with Vista...I think in the end Ballmer is just trying to downplay overly high expectations
I LOVE the way you are free to say things like "fucking" in your articles.
No sarcasm...
Im so fucking tired of what big pussies everyone has become, and it genuinely makes me WANT to use this site more & more knowing that the articles WONT be pussified to the edge of extinction like every other media.
Three Cheers to Gizmodo & may the Fucking & Shit & NSFW reign for a thousand years!
Will Windows 7 work with my OKIPAGE 4w (just to name one thing that was no good in vista)? otherwise I don't think I'll ever switch to windows. Legacy support is a must, otherwise it WILL be vista all over again.
@Parameshwara: Um... That would be up to Okidata and considering they discontinued it twelve years ago I wouldn't count on a new driver. If it didn't work in Vista it more than likely won't in 7.
The toner for that thing must cost a fortune, wtf are you using that POS for? I could understand if you had an old thermal printer or something, but what is so special about a OKIPAGE?
@UnderLoK: I don't print so much, and have toner lying around. Also the toner is still cheaper than to many newer LaserJets. Why would I want to upgrade something that works well.
Basically that's one of many reasons I went to Ubuntu when time came to upgrade from XP.
@Parameshwara: Huh... I would have never guessed the toner would be cheaper. The old school Oki dot matrix printers that many still use cost a fortune for anything related to them and if you were a customer with one of those printers you HAD TO HAVE IT as it was hard coded into an app that you used.
I've been using Windows 7 since the beta and generally loving the hell out of it. I have it on my mac's second partition and on a 5 year old tablet. The tablet bluescreens occasionally, but I've always put that down to it being old, second hand, running some exotic/unsupported hardware drivers, etc..
Installed Windows 7 RTM on my (dell 745, core 2 duo) workstation yesterday. Got the exact same blue screen pictured above within 5 minutes of logging in this morning. Eerie.
Argh it bugs me when people mess up that phrase...it's supposed to be "the proof of the pudding is in the eating." Otherwise it just doesn't make much sense.
@jakebathman: I'd never heard the back end of that phrase before. It makes more sense now.
I used to always imagine it came from an old murder mystery novel/play/movie. When questioned about his proof of the identity of the murderer, the detective swings around and points at the dinner party, "Constable Nedry...The proof is in the pudding!" I can still convince other people that this is the true origin of that phrase.
@Ruthless, If you let me: hahaha you almost convinced me! but I wondered once what the hell it actually meant one day and looked it up.
For people that are interested (and as jokono pointed out) there's a great website that has lots of info on phrases, cliches, colloqualisms, etc.: [www.phrases.org.uk]
I'm not trying to make fun. But I have never heard the saying "the proof of the pudding is in the eating." Maybe it is a regional thing, I live in Virginia. But I have often heard the phrase "the proof will be in the pudding."
A CEO basically saying he is not going to assume success is somehow an admission of fragility. This is a non-story, and a rather failed attempt at stirring the pot.
@kuriakos: Amazing, isn't it? We've come to expect delusional bravado from every quarter, to the point that when somebody is even a little cautious in their optimism, it's taken as a sign of weakness.
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DirectX 9 wasn't impressive at the start and everyone scoffed at it but eventually it became what gaming is today. So, if DirectX 11+ gets a good boost from Win 7 and the next phase of Console hardware, you'll have a decent leap there as well.
It's all about effects now. Polygons won't get fancier by much until 2-3 generations from now as they do a good enough job at fleshing out things and it's mainly textures and effects that bring everything to life. #directx11
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In other words, yes, it's still MS's fault. Just indirectly. Blame them for making the Duke Nukem Forever of OS's.
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Windows 7 will do very well, utlimately, though the fact that we have almost a year before we have to pay for the upgrade will probably stretch the income out over a longer time than previous launches.
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No sarcasm...
Im so fucking tired of what big pussies everyone has become, and it genuinely makes me WANT to use this site more & more knowing that the articles WONT be pussified to the edge of extinction like every other media.
Three Cheers to Gizmodo & may the Fucking & Shit & NSFW reign for a thousand years!
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The toner for that thing must cost a fortune, wtf are you using that POS for? I could understand if you had an old thermal printer or something, but what is so special about a OKIPAGE?
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Basically that's one of many reasons I went to Ubuntu when time came to upgrade from XP.
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Installed Windows 7 RTM on my (dell 745, core 2 duo) workstation yesterday. Got the exact same blue screen pictured above within 5 minutes of logging in this morning. Eerie.
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Also, "I could care less" is wrongly used. It's not that difficult people.
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I used to always imagine it came from an old murder mystery novel/play/movie. When questioned about his proof of the identity of the murderer, the detective swings around and points at the dinner party, "Constable Nedry...The proof is in the pudding!" I can still convince other people that this is the true origin of that phrase.
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For people that are interested (and as jokono pointed out) there's a great website that has lots of info on phrases, cliches, colloqualisms, etc.: [www.phrases.org.uk]
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I'm not trying to make fun. But I have never heard the saying "the proof of the pudding is in the eating." Maybe it is a regional thing, I live in Virginia. But I have often heard the phrase "the proof will be in the pudding."
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