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I see it makes an image recognition (well, points recognition) and recalculates everything on each image captured.
The math behind this goes totaly beyond my knowledge.
You'll probably never get a 3D model as optimized as one using... more expensive/ time consuming modeling/ 3d capturing techniques, but the results speak for themselves.
Now, what we need are some models and this: [xspblog.com]
You can scan a sandwich and print it on a 3d printer, in colour, even with separate pieces of bread, ham and cheese. But you wouldn't want to eat it.
A lot of "food products" now get extruded from machines that aren't that different from 3 d printers. If you could load up a 3d printer with potato slurry, cheese ink, and the like, you might be able to print out a "ham and cheese" that looked good, and might even be edible.
@Geeum: MyNatalScan™. You strip buck naked, dip your index finger in blue ink, and then you touch yourself all over while matching the increasingly athletic poses of a character on-screen.
At the end it renders an incredibly realistic 3-D on-screen avatar, and MyNatalScan™ Inc. has a huge database of naked people to sell, humiliate, and blackmail.
@Pixlmonkey: Really? Why? Is there a link to my site in my comment? No, in fact, I didn't even mention my website. Oh, maybe there's one in my profile. Huh, isn't one there either, is there.
So in a story about webcams being able to make a 3d model, I mentioned that I had some webcams and wondered if using more than one could make a better 3d model since the article mentioned that there was problems with the one camera system. Yup, that is TOTAL spamming. Before you make statements like that, you better be able to back them up.
From a military or emergency response standpoint, imagine having an inexpensive (almost disposable) UAV that could fly around/through a structure and generate a 3d map. It could just relay the images back to a laptop or similar device which would collect the data and do the necessary number crunching.
@ajh1138: They are already doing this. [www.wired.com]
"New software just might mean a similar upgrade for military video intelligence: Think of it as a real-time YouTube with heavy artillery. The release of the new version has just been announced.
The U.S. military’s Task Force ODIN demonstrated the effectiveness of combining the video inputs from networked drones, aircraft and helicopters. When a roadside bomb went off, the team could wind back the video to see who planted it — and where they went. ODIN allegedly assisted in the takedown of thousands of insurgents in Iraq; their counterparts are starting work in Afghanistan."
Imagine if you could combine a refined version of this with Google Street View style camera input for almost instant and automatic 3D visualization of a geographical area.
@CrispyAardvark: You can already use images from Google Street View and Google Maps aerial view to create a 3-D model of a building. "Simply" select the edges of the roof in Google Maps, extrude vertically, then paste the front view from Google Street View. Refine as much as you care to do. A Google SketchUp expert did it for my house in 5 minutes. You can then upload the result to Google's 3-D warehouse of SketchUp designs, and you can place it in a shared layer in Google Earth for others to fly-by. I asked why Google doesn't do this automatically to populate all of Google Earth with 3-D neighborhoods, and he said the A.I. wasn't good enough... yet!
I wonder if the Google Street View cameras captured depth (voxels). Even if they didn't, the parallax change from picture to picture should be enough to infer some depth information. I'm sure Google is working on it. Microsoft Labs already has the demo that builds 3-D scenes from thousands of uploaded pictures of famous sites.
10 years ago MetaCreations released Canoma which supposedly let you semi-automatically pin photographs onto 3D shapes and it would guess the outlines of the building.
Time for a death match between Luxo and Luxo's evil twin the iPevo. That said, shouldn't iPevo really be a device for chopping up apple's into pieces or creating apple sauce? Or maybe that was not the definition of "pevo" I was considering.
I admit I have had many web cams over the years (my first in 1998, I believe), and I use them maybe twice a year. You have to have it to be an "official" geek, but it is not the most useful computing device I have ever had. But, this design is so damn cute, I might use it more often. Four times a year, maybe. #ipevop2vusbwebcam
@Monty: I think the usefulness of the webcam increases with the amount of out of town family or close friends you have. I have a lot of family in south africa and my webcam definitely makes them feel a little bit closer. However if all my family and friends were local... or at least close family and friends I wouldn't see me using it much at all. #ipevop2vusbwebcam
@Sunburn_summer: Good points. Most of my family lives in places where broadband is not an option (out in the sticks, or above the arctic circle -- truly), so that could limit my personal use. But, even in the work setting I have found seeing the face of the person on the other side to not be particularly useful. Though, that could be because every day is a bad hair day for me.
One of my main complaints about this technology is how little we have taken this into conferences. Why are we not attending various conferences through WebEx or similar systems where can can train folks while they can see us, and anyone could see any of the other participants? I had a long discussion about that with WebEx and they didn't have a good answer for me.
Still, this is a nice computer camera design, regardless. #ipevop2vusbwebcam
@Monty: Into conferences? Is a college class a good example? All of my MS classes were streamed live along side overhead notes (powerpoint slides) for people who were not on-campus. Otherwise, I use mine pretty often, 1-2 times per week and I like seeing the face. It beats holding a phone to my ear, and I don't walk around the house with my bluetooth in (often).
Unrelated, "pevo" sounds like the Polish word for beer, "piwo". So hence forth, this product will be known as iBeer. Beer goggle? Beer monocle? Any of these half-ass jokes doin' it for ya? #ipevop2vusbwebcam
@Monty: I know what you mean. A few years ago even though we had webcams and good systems on both sides video chat between here and south africa was barely useable. Partly due to the tech, partly due to South Africa's awful internet speeds. Often we would start with video, but turn it off because it would make the call quality so unbearable. It's only been about the last 3 years that the speeds in SA have picked up and made video chat great. Now I very rarely get a dropped call, and there is no noticeable lag. Couldn't imagine not using video chat now. #ipevop2vusbwebcam
@valkilmerisawful: I am ashamed to admit I have not been in a college campus setting since 1993, and that certainly sounds excellent. My apologies about being out of touch on that front.
What I was referring to was national conferences involving thousands of people. In this day and age, why should I have to fly to Florida to meet and chat with new people when a web camera (and a well programmed web site) could do the job? Of course, the Gaylord hotels might not like this concept, but it seems like an easy answer. But, I am dreaming.
I think your jokes were "full"-ass, and I enjoyed them thoroughly! #ipevop2vusbwebcam
@Monty: Hahaha "full"-ass... I just lol'ed or lulz'ed or whatever the kids think is cool these days. I agree with you, though, that that is seems like traveling can be wasteful and that webconferencing might help. But I suppose it doesn't replace the presence of a real human being, and it's got a long way to go to simulate the grandiose experience of a national conference, I'm sure. Until then, at the very least it makes me feel like I'm not just drinking alone in my apartment when I have a friend on the screen :)
@curious-character: Ah ah ah, 9 out of 10 armchair internet economists confirm that these sort of statements have little merit without some kind of data to show for it.
Maybe you're from the future, where standalone webcams no longer exist, and desktops only exist as servers and office terminals. #ipevop2vusbwebcam
@otko: Hello, this is Moleman in the morning. Good Moleman to you. Today part four of our series of the agonizing pain in which I live every daaaay. #astakmole
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@GitEmSteveDave_ThatChickRockin...: My mistake. I assumed you just took a screenshot of part of that episode. That watermark sure gets around though. I think it used to come free in the mail years ago with samples of Tide and Frampton Comes Alive. #astakmole
Damn, if it was cheaper, or if I had any sort of sponsorship, I would love to have these at my house. Especially love the PTZ part, and wondering if it will auto-face track.
As of right now, I only have one cam up that PTZ's, the ComputerCam ( [mysite.verizon.net] ), but would love more. #
@DustyButt™: For fun, count how many times he says "folks" and "720p". I won't know if anyone is correct, BTW, because I have never made it all the way through this video.
@GitEmSteveDave_SomeAssemblyReq...: All that work to develop internet 2.0. And this is our reward. I'm beginning to think 2012 really is the end of all existence.
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@Mess Yo Self!: A podcast I listen to, Distorted View, plays audio from the Fat Man occasionally, and this was one of the videos. He apparently is trying to lose weight, again, but he hit a stumbling block when he realized the nutritional value listed on a Marie Callender pot pie was for one serving, not the two servings the pie is. So he was eating double the calories he thought he was.
I would totally install 4 of these to replace the current generation of JerseyCam's I have set up in my house currently, which can be viewed at [GitEmSteveDave.com] .
@macpatrick: so you expect you'd be impressed with a 1920x1080 uncompressed video stream at 60fps... shown in a scaled down heavily compressed youtube flash video?
Assuming you were to download the actual video, assume 1920 x 1080 x 3 bytes per pixel x 60 fps x 6 seconds = 2.2GB.
@Hack Handyman: Yes. I am extremely impressed with this technology. But this video isn't even long enough to even get an idea of whats going. And yes, it sounds ridiculous, but you can judge image quality from a youtube video.
@(Starman) AnalysisDialysis: Though I do have to say, the speed at which this records won't make a damn difference if the internet DL speed on the other end is as slow as molasses...
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I see it makes an image recognition (well, points recognition) and recalculates everything on each image captured.
The math behind this goes totaly beyond my knowledge.
You'll probably never get a 3D model as optimized as one using... more expensive/ time consuming modeling/ 3d capturing techniques, but the results speak for themselves.
Now, what we need are some models and this: [xspblog.com]
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A lot of "food products" now get extruded from machines that aren't that different from 3 d printers. If you could load up a 3d printer with potato slurry, cheese ink, and the like, you might be able to print out a "ham and cheese" that looked good, and might even be edible.
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At the end it renders an incredibly realistic 3-D on-screen avatar, and MyNatalScan™ Inc. has a huge database of naked people to sell, humiliate, and blackmail.
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So in a story about webcams being able to make a 3d model, I mentioned that I had some webcams and wondered if using more than one could make a better 3d model since the article mentioned that there was problems with the one camera system. Yup, that is TOTAL spamming. Before you make statements like that, you better be able to back them up.
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[www.wired.com]
"New software just might mean a similar upgrade for military video intelligence: Think of it as a real-time YouTube with heavy artillery. The release of the new version has just been announced.
The U.S. military’s Task Force ODIN demonstrated the effectiveness of combining the video inputs from networked drones, aircraft and helicopters. When a roadside bomb went off, the team could wind back the video to see who planted it — and where they went. ODIN allegedly assisted in the takedown of thousands of insurgents in Iraq; their counterparts are starting work in Afghanistan."
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I wonder if the Google Street View cameras captured depth (voxels). Even if they didn't, the parallax change from picture to picture should be enough to infer some depth information. I'm sure Google is working on it. Microsoft Labs already has the demo that builds 3-D scenes from thousands of uploaded pictures of famous sites.
10 years ago MetaCreations released Canoma which supposedly let you semi-automatically pin photographs onto 3D shapes and it would guess the outlines of the building.
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riiiiiggghhhht can I have what your smoking?
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the addition of the automatic texture-mapping, makes this a truly useful tool.
claiming this is anything less than awesome is stupid.
3D scanning tools cost upwards of at least 1000USD (at least they did a few years ago) This is a DIY System using a webcam... which costs 30$
11/04/09
I admit I have had many web cams over the years (my first in 1998, I believe), and I use them maybe twice a year. You have to have it to be an "official" geek, but it is not the most useful computing device I have ever had. But, this design is so damn cute, I might use it more often. Four times a year, maybe. #ipevop2vusbwebcam
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One of my main complaints about this technology is how little we have taken this into conferences. Why are we not attending various conferences through WebEx or similar systems where can can train folks while they can see us, and anyone could see any of the other participants? I had a long discussion about that with WebEx and they didn't have a good answer for me.
Still, this is a nice computer camera design, regardless. #ipevop2vusbwebcam
11/04/09
Unrelated, "pevo" sounds like the Polish word for beer, "piwo". So hence forth, this product will be known as iBeer. Beer goggle? Beer monocle? Any of these half-ass jokes doin' it for ya? #ipevop2vusbwebcam
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What I was referring to was national conferences involving thousands of people. In this day and age, why should I have to fly to Florida to meet and chat with new people when a web camera (and a well programmed web site) could do the job? Of course, the Gaylord hotels might not like this concept, but it seems like an easy answer. But, I am dreaming.
I think your jokes were "full"-ass, and I enjoyed them thoroughly! #ipevop2vusbwebcam
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A: Old people, so they can keep up with their grand kids.
Unfortunately this looks a lot like a microphone, so I imagine every webcam session beginning like this:
"Mommy, why is grandma trying to eat our computer screen?" #ipevop2vusbwebcam
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1) Corporations - irrelevant to this product
2) Gamers - they have 5 monitors, each with an integrated webcam already
3) ...wait for it...Old people #ipevop2vusbwebcam
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Maybe you're from the future, where standalone webcams no longer exist, and desktops only exist as servers and office terminals. #ipevop2vusbwebcam
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@otko: Hello, this is Moleman in the morning. Good Moleman to you. Today part four of our series of the agonizing pain in which I live every daaaay. #astakmole
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@GitEmSteveDave_ThatChickRockin...: #astakmole
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@GitEmSteveDave_ThatChickRockin...: #astakmole
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Well. There goes the ceiling cat. How should I put it down? Remind me to delete its Twitter account as well.
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As of right now, I only have one cam up that PTZ's, the ComputerCam ( [mysite.verizon.net] ), but would love more. #
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VURRRP!
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Assuming you were to download the actual video, assume 1920 x 1080 x 3 bytes per pixel x 60 fps x 6 seconds = 2.2GB.
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WAAAAAAHH!!!! /≥__≤\
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