<![CDATA[Gizmodo: commenters]]> http://tags.gizmodo.com/assets/base/img/thumbs140x140/gizmodo.com.png <![CDATA[Gizmodo: commenters]]> http://gizmodo.com/tag/commenters http://gizmodo.com/tag/commenters <![CDATA[Hello Commenters, Let's Talk (You Need to Read This)]]> Hey guys, it's a new year, and we have all these new people from this new Facebook Connect thing, so let's talk about commenting at Gizmodo for a minute.

Comment Email Address - For All Your Commenting Needs
First up, Gizmodo has a specific email address just for comment related concerns. Emails about account approval, account problems, banning questions, thread problems and even requests for banning will all be handled through this email. So here it is, COMMENTS@GIZMODO.COM, shouldn't be too hard to remember.

What Will Get You Banned
If you didn't already know, we have an all-mighty banhammer of Thor that we can use to smash your commenting account to pieces, forever. Here's what'll get you smacked with it, guaranteed: obscene, racists, trolling, mean, spammer, stupid, or completely off-topic comments. So if you see that your account has been banned, please check your stupid ass comments before you send an email to COMMENTS@GIZMODO.COM asking why you can't comment. Nine times out of 10, I'm sure you'll see why.

Because it's easier than ever to get a commenter account, we've got more commenters than ever, which inevitably more stupid comments than ever as well. So the banhammer sensitivity has been turned up to threat level orange.

Other Stuff That'll Get You Banned
From here on out, long commenter names will get you a warning, then a ban. Like our cynical, chain-smoking cousins over at Gawker, we've decided tacking a bunch of stars on the end or other craziness is annoying, and it busts up site formatting. We're going to go around starting Monday, but be pro-active and change your name now, so it's less crap to deal with for everyone.

Also bannable: Cries of "first," asking if something will blend, welcoming any kind of overlords and other cliche stupidity.

I hope our little talk wasn't too harsh. We value all you commenters and enjoy the additional insight you add to Gizmodo. We just want it to be good for everyone. If you guys have any ideas or features you would like to see happen in the Giz comment world, please feel free to let us know. And don't forget COMMENTS@GIZMODO.COM is where you're gonna send all that comment related junk.

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<![CDATA[This Wacky Comment System: Friends and the Collapsed Comments on Page 2]]> So you may have noticed, dear commenters, that when you move onto the second page of comments, they're mostly collapsed. What's the deal with that? Well, now, when you move onto the second page of comments, the only expanded comments will be those written by star commenters and those written by your friends. Want more of them to be expanded? I have two simple solutions for you.

The first is to use the "Expand All" link right at the top of the comments. There was previously a bug that caused this link to not work. It is now fixed. Simply click this and all the comments will be expanded and easy to read. Bingo bango.

The second option is to add more friends. Like what certain commenters have to say? It's pretty easy to just click the little heart icon under their name to start following them. Once you do that, their comments will always be expanded for you to read, enjoy and respond to.

As for star commenters, stars are doled out by the staff to our favorite commenters. Want a star? Write better comments, and you'll probably get one. You'll probably get more followers as well! Funny how that works. Don't ask for a star, by the way; that's just tacky.

I hope that clears things up a bit. And thank you, as always, for commenting. Writing for Giz would be no fun without you.

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<![CDATA[Comments Update: Permalink Threads, Popular Conversations]]> We have a couple of new, cool features for you commenters out there: permalink threads and most popular sorting. How do they work? Well, the timestamp next to each thread in comments (a comment and its responses) is now a link to that thread that stands on its own. You can direct people to that conversation specifically using it. As for popular sorting, you should now see a "Most Popular" link at the top of comment threads. Clicking it brings you to a page showing the threads with the largest number of replies, with the discussion with the most replies on top. Try 'em out and let us know what you think!

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<![CDATA[Update: Threaded Comments Now Chronological]]> A quick update to yesterday's comments upgrade: comments are now chronological again. There's still threading, and replies will appear under the comment that they're replying to, but new comments that aren't replies will go at the end of the conversation. This should make things much easier to follow. Thanks for the feedback, and keep it coming! We'll keep tweaking this until it's as good as it can be, because we care so much about you, our valuable readers. Group hug, all y'all!

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<![CDATA[New Giz Feature: Threaded Comments]]> Welcome to the future, my friends. As of today, Gizmodo (and all the other Gawker sites) now have threaded comments. What's this mean for you? Well, it means that comment threads will no longer be one long list of chronological comments. Instead, when you reply to a specific comment, your comment will go right underneath it. Let's look at it a bit more in depth, shall we?

The ladies at Jezebel laid it out pretty nicely, so we'll crib a bit from their explanation:

How are the threads displayed, still in chronological order?
Each conversation will be displayed in chronological order. But organization of the conversations overall will be displayed based on popularity. The most popular conversations will migrate to the top. The most recent comment that has no replies will appear on top for 15 minutes before being filtered down. If a more active conversation receives a reply within those 15 minutes, that conversation will overtake the stand-alone comment.


Where did the plus and minus go?
The plus and minus, which was used to friend or un-friend a fellow commenter, has been replaced by a heart. Friends show a red heart, and the rest are empty.

What's the deal with the star again?
Star commenters were readers who have 25 or more followers, or were designated as stars by a comments admin. With the introduction of threading, the number of followers required to attain star is increasing to 40.

Is there a way to view comments the "old-fashioned" way?
You can switch to the old style comments layout by clicking the "classic view" link in the comments bar at the top of the threads.

So, what do you think? Exciting, no?

And yes, I know change is scary. I saw how many people flipped out when Facebook changed its layout. But hey, change is fun. Give it a shot in the comments below, fiddle around with it, and let us know what you think. As long as what you think is positive, because after how much work our illustrious tech crew put into making this possible, we ain't changing it back. Enjoy!

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<![CDATA[Commenters, Can We Have A Talk AGAIN?]]> Well, commenters, here we are again. After we had our little talk a month ago it seems like what we went over hasn't really taken hold. The number of off-topic conversations hasn't really decreased and complaints from your fellow commenters are piling up. Instead of running wild with the banhammer, we figured we owed it to you guys to have another talk.

Before we go on, if you haven't already read io9's amazing How to Be an Opinionated Commenter on io9 and Not Get Banned post we suggest you do. We at Gizmodo don't think we need to go over what being a decent commenter is all about. But if you are still unsure of which comments are appropriate please check out that io9 guide, we'll all be happier you did.

Please Keep it On-Topic

So here's the problem, the comment threads are still becoming too off-topic. We're not gonna point fingers at specific commenters; we just want everyone to understand what affect this has on the Giz community.

Let us first say that our comments are usually filled with a wealth of information, and that's why we love 'em. We here at Gizmodo—just like you readers—visit the comments section of every story wanting to learn more from each and every commenter. By engaging in on-topic discussion, the comments can provide an amazing amount of insight for any given story, such as similar products that do something as good or better than what we feature. Sadly, what is happening is that a few off-topic comments will get posted amongst all the on-topic ones and then the whole comment thread derails and turns sour. Our comment threads, which are our communal pool of knowledge, end up completely ruined because of a few horny idiots.

So we are asking all you guys again, please don't pee in our pool. It hurts all of us in the end and no one will be happy when the POOL'S CLOSED...

New Pre-Banning Feature: Disemvoweling

For those of you who continue to ruin it for the rest of us, instead of just banning you on the spot, we now have a new feature which will note your idiotic comments. It's called disemvoweling and what it does is take the comment in question and strip all the lovely vowels out of it. The comment is then left looking like a jumbled mess, and since this disemvoweling can not be reversed it will stay vowelless FOORRREEEVVVERRR! So here's a warning, if you find one of your comments disemovoweling you better straighten up before the banhammer comes knockin'. This also serves as a notification to other commenters as to what type of comments are NOT acceptable.

And if commenters keep making off-topic posts even after the disemvoweling, we will have to put them on a temporary time-out.

We wish we could take credit for this nifty disemvoweling feature but we can't. We tip our hats to Boing Boing for this one.

If you guys have any questions about the new disemvoweled feature or simply want to apologize for making off-topic comments please send all those messages to comments@gizmodo.com.

Instead of writing a sympathetic conclusion to this post, we thought it would be best to leave you with words from your own Pope John Peeps II.

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<![CDATA[Hey Commenters, Can We Have A Talk ?]]> For all you commenters, this post is intended for you. We at Gizmodo want to go over a few things. Off topic comments, a new comment specific email address, and reasons we ban are on the agenda. So if you're a frequent commenter or just starting out, let us have a few words with you. Oh and, if you haven't already checked out Lifehacker's amazing commenting user's guide, you definitely should.

Comment Email Address - For All Your Commenting Needs
We're not sure why we never had it before, but Gizmodo now has a specific email address just for comment related concerns. Emails about account approval, account problems, banning questions, thread problems and even requests for banning will all be handled through this email. So here it is, COMMENTS@GIZMODO.COM , shouldn't be too hard to remember.

Off Topic Comments
Over the past few weeks, we at Giz have been becoming unhappy with the direction some comment threads are turning. Even some commenters have let us know that they are concerned with what's going on. Long story short, some of the comment threads are getting way too off topic. Gizmodo is not high school social shit site, and we expect the commenters to be mature enough to contribute ON TOPIC conversation. Sure, we all enjoy reading some light off topic banter, but we've noticed complete mongo-tard discussions that have NO PLACE on a gadget site. So next time you're thinking of writing a comment with the word PENIS or HORNY in it, please spare us..

Why We Ban
If you didn't already know, we have an all-mighty banhammer that we can use to silence commenters. Why would we use such a weapon? Well, some commenters feel the need to speak with obscene, racists, troller, mean, spammer, stupid, or completely off topic words. These types of commenters are NOT WELCOMED, and must be banned. So if you see your account has been banned, please check your stupid ass comments before you send an email to COMMENTS@GIZMODO.COM asking why you can't comment. I'm sure you'll see why.

Other Bannable Offenses
From here on out, asking "Will It Blend?" welcoming any kind of overlord, or any other horribly tacky and cliche comment, unless used exceptionally, hilariously ironically, makes you a total banhammer target.

So I hope our little talk wasn't too harsh. We value all you commenters and enjoy the additional insight you add to Gizmodo. If you guys have any ideas or features you would like to see happen in the Giz comment world, please feel free to let us know. And don't forget COMMENTS@GIZMODO.COM is where your gonna send all that comment related junk.

UPDATE: We want to personally apologize to carmen-whatever her new name is, for singling her out. We understand that it wasn't cool, and we're sorry.

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<![CDATA[Giz Commenter Appreciation: Borrow Zeiss Cinemizer iPod Video Goggles for 2 Weeks]]> Hey, Giz Commenters, I've got something for you. You know those Zeiss Goggles I reviewed a week back? Zeiss is letting the readers do a two week loan of them, shipping covered. All you've got to do is leave a comment in this post with an existing account, and then fill out this form with a link to your comment. The catch? You just have to fill out an 8 page feedback form. Not a bad deal since most of you write 8 pages worth of comments a week. UPDATE: You'll need to register a credit card, naturally, before anyone is going to send you $400 in gear. Don't be a whiner! [Zeiss]

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<![CDATA[Gizmodo's 20 Most Commented Articles and Top 5 Commenters of 2007]]> Gizmodo would be a sad lonely place without you, the readers. Sure, we would keep drinking cocktails and having wild beach parties in the South Pacific, but it just wouldn't be the same. No, really. So here they are, without further ado, the Top 20 Most Commented Articles and the Top 5 Commenters of 2007. Check them out and vote for your favorite after the jump:

Top 20 Most commented articles of 2007

1. Halo: Halo 3 Swag Rebagging (Plus Apology) - 415

2. iPhone Revisited (Verdict: Don't Buy) - 344
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3. Contest: Win a Free iPhone Software Unlock - 336
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4. How to Comment: Win a Free iPhone Software Unlock - 286

5. Apple: 8GB iPhone Price Cut by $200, 4GB iPhone Gone - 279
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6. Homophobia: Shareholder Takeover Planned to Stop Microsoft's 'Homosexual Agenda' - 273

7. Gizmodo iPhone Hands-On: I Called My Mommy - 237

8. Vote Giz: Vote for Giz! - 225
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9. Apple: Apple's Beat Keynote Liveblog Here - 221

10. Exclusive: iPhone Free Software Unlock Confirmed (Death Star Explodes) - 215
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11. Unicorn Chaser: We're Not Backing Out of Halo - 213

12. Top: Apple WWDC 2007 Liveblog - Steve Jobs Keynote - 211

13. Question Of The Day: Zune or iPod? - 209

14. iPhone Firmware 1.1.1 Out and Tested: Breaks 3rd-party Apps, Relocks iPhones and Sends Them to Semi-Brick Activation Limbo (Updated with video - 208

15. Whiners: Bitching About Too Much iPhone Coverage? Listen Up - 197

16. High Schooler Gets Detention for Using Firefox? UPDATE: Nope - 187

17. Announcements: Which Gizmodo Commenters Suck? - 184

18. Advertising: Intel Ad Might be Racist, but Boy Does It Make Me Want a Core 2 Duo 183

19. Oh, Food! I'll Just - Wahhhhhh!!: Squirrel Catapult is Awful, Yet We Can't Look Away 180

20. How to Comment: How Much Storage Do You Have? - 170

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Top 5 Commenters of 2007
1. strider_mt2k's Activity - 4,151
2. Kaiser-Machead's Activity - 1,986
3. nutbastard's Activity - 1,356
4. ANoel's Activity 1,327
5. omg-ponies's Activity - 1,245

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If you have another favorite comments or commenters, tell us in the comments and then other people can comment to your comments until a time-space warp is generated and gets all of us sucked into the next year or a new dimension.

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<![CDATA[Commenter Retirement Party Video Makes Me Yearn For Hotter Giz Comments]]>
College Humor impressed us with their first Commenter Business Meeting video, but they've really outdone themselves this time: LOLcats, incredibly offensive commenters, and, yes, hot girls making out. We have two of those things regularly appearing in our comments now, but I'd really like to see us have all three. Let's make it happen, team. Warning: video may be NSFW if you work in Iran. [College Humor]

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<![CDATA[Gizmodo Commentards Before the Iron Banhammer Dropped]]>
Watch this video that College Humor made of Internet Commentards holding a business meeting. Gives you, the thoughtful Gizmodo commenter sophisticate, a finer appreciation for the Banhammer, doesn't it?

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<![CDATA[Banhammer IV: The Redeadening]]> Hey, look, I found the Banhammer under my bed, and it's all dusty and unused. Today I will clean it off by making an example of one Jumpking04, who made two mistakes. His first was writing near-unreadable comments, as excerpted after the jump, and his second was linking to his MySpace page in his commenter profile. Nice dog, Jumpking.

ZOMG thats crazy. I wan2 do that. I would love to do that. WWII Nazis aint got nothing on them XD Dam and i think its dangerous enough walking with 10 dudes through Hunts Point in the Bronx. BRONX and NY FTW lolz. (Dont live @ hunts point) Parkchester area FTW. XD
You'll go blind before you ever see Angelina Joeli's Sex tape o.O
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<![CDATA[Which Gizmodo Commenters Suck?]]> Lately, I've been getting tons of complaints about asshole commenters. I'm not talking about the ones that disagree with others in a gruff way. Freedom of speech, and all. I'm talking about people who obviously have mental problems and like to take it out on the rest of us who frequent Gizmodo. I've been lax with the jerk-offs for a while, but the thing is, I have a much better time reading the site without the attention-needing idiots leaving attention-grabbing comments. I don't know about you, but if I had a guest over who shit on my carpet, I'd ask 'em to leave.

I have my own list of commenters who I'm watching carefully. But I'm most curious about what the majority of our readers—the intelligent, tech-smart, goodwilled ones—think about the worst of their peers.

I don't want a witch hunt. I'm not necessarily going to execute someone because their name appears on this list. But if there's a commenter you think isn't adding anything to the conversation, drop their name in the comments, with a link and quote to the offending words. I'll be reading closely.

And I'll start the comment thread.

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<![CDATA[Star Commenter Award: strider_mt2k]]> We're digging our commenters here. So much so, in fact, that we want to recognize some of the best commenters with our Star Commenter award, given to those who contribute to our site so much and so well they make this a better place for everyone.

Our first winner is one of our favorites, known here as strider_mt2k. Learning a little about him made us understand why he's such an excellent commenter with so many funny and appropriate remarks up his sleeve. He wears many hats. He's a renaissance man of tech whose career includes being a musician, a fingerprint lab technician, network engineer, building and designing surveillance vehicles, and even working at a RadioShack. In his spare time, he's a voracious Sci Fi reader, plays a few games on Nintendo DS and PS2, but games primarily on his PC. He's also an avid gardener, dabbles in robotics and holds a tech-class amateur radio license. Renaissance man, indeed. What's his commenting secret?

"I have made my share of blunders as a commenter, but I try to keep it light, mostly just improvising in some dated Gen-X pop culture or sci-fi reference where I didn't have anything better to add. I also tune out the noise for the most part. I love surfing The Giz."
So let's take a look at the comments of strider_mt2k, winner of our first Star Commenter Award. Thanks, man. It's a pleasure to have you here!]]>
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<![CDATA[Commenter Execution Roundup: We're Still Paying Attention]]> Hey, sassy commenters! This here is a friendly reminder that, while we love you all and know that you are each unique and beautiful snowflakes, we won't put up with any bullshit. 99% of the time you make intelligent and often funny contributions to the site and we loves ya for it, but once in a while a bad apple comes in and just takes the fun out of it for everyone.

So, now that the dust has settled from CES and we finally have gotten over our hangovers and STDs, it's time to polish the banhammer and crack some skulls. Join me, won't you?

The Departed: Drugs for Sale
The Reason: Unfunny, sexist, and nonsensical all in one joke? That's the trifecta, dude. You're outta here.

The Departed: Spudster
The Reason: Hurting our feelings.

The Departed: jcc123
The Reason: A history of vaguely racist, xenophobic, and mean-spirited comments has finally caught up with him.

The Departed: Sweet Toof
The Reason: Being a negative nelly.

That's all for this round. Just so we're all clear, comment executions aren't permanent. You can get back into the system the same way everyone else can, by submitting a witty or intelligent comment and getting invited. I mean hey, we aren't heartless. Well, maybe Travis is.

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<![CDATA[Pogue Follows Up on Netiquette Debate]]> We tend to poke fun at the New York Times' David Pogue a lot around here, but we want to make it clear that we kid because we love. David is like the wacky yet dorky uncle of the tech journalism world, how could we not like him?

Pogue recently complained about the lack of online etiquette found on message boards and blog comments these days, and left the floor open to comments. He went ahead and followed up on this with a bunch of reader feedback, and it's a fascinating discussion to be sure. Go on and check it out, and show Uncle Dave some respect, ya hear?

The Netiquette Diaries [NY Times]

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<![CDATA[How to Get Banned from Commenting in One Easy Step]]> jackass.jpgCome on people. We're trying to have civilized discussions here, so let's be on our best behavior. If you're curious as to what it takes to get a swift and brutal bonk on the head from the banhammer, former Gizmodo commenter God-Father was kind enough to sacrifice himself to show everyone how not to behave.
One word.....gay

this sport is gonna be a hit in SF. If it blinds a few chodechuggers, I say "just do it!"

Oh my. I obviously don't need to explain why it was stupid to think that this would be a good thing to post and even stupider to actually think it in the first place. Let's just all take a deep breath, hold it in for a three count, and remember the mantra: don't be a jackass. Don't be a jackass. Don't be a jackass.

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<![CDATA[David Pogue Doesn't Like Mean Commenters; Let Him Have it, Guys]]> New York Times tech diva David Pogue took some time out of his day today to pontificate on the general nastiness that can be found basically on any site that allows comments. He certainly brings up some interesting points, and anyone who has spent time browsing through comments at Digg, Slashdot, or even here on our beloved Gizmodo can attest to the fact that people have a tendency to throw insults first and ask questions later. But is it that people aren't raising their kids right and that people are generally meaner today than they were in the "good old days," or is it more the nature of the beast?

I for one tend to get emboldened when I'm behind the keyboard. Typing anonymous comments to people you'll never actually meet in person is a really dehumanizing thing, even as it purports to connect us. It really has more in common with talking to ourselves than it does with actually talking to another person, so the normal filters of tact and self-restraint are peeled away. That's not really an excuse to be needlessly mean or nasty to other people online, but I think it probably has a lot to do with explaining the phenomenon.

I don't think that all hope is lost, however. I may be trying to not shit where I eat here, but I think the Giz has a collection of some of the more articulate commenters around. Even when I need to get slapped around for lax fact checking/speedy post writing the pigpile is generally only a couple people deep. It's certainly nothing compared to the fracas at Digg, which can feel more like a schoolyard than a tech site full of intelligent adults. I think it probably has a lot to do with the semi-closed comment accounts that give people pause before posting something particularly inflammatory.

So what's the deal, commenters? This whole discussion is about you, so let's hear it. Have you sometimes crossed the line into nasty territory and later regretted it? Is there something in particular about the online environment that breeds misanthropes? Is Pogue just a big wuss who doesn't come down from his ivory tower at the Times enough and can't take the heat of hanging with the proles? Do some of you want to apologize for hurting my feelings? I'm waiting.

Whatever Happened to Online Etiquette? [NY Times]

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<![CDATA[Valleywag Institutes Public Executions of Commenters]]> Our beloved bloodbrothers at fellow Gawker site Valleywag are getting serious with bullshit commenters, with an easy and final solution: taking them out and shooting them. Well, figuratively. Public executions? We like!

Neuro: I like your thinking, not your grammar. You're fired.
Anonymous, it's against Valleywag policy to purely enjoy the comments of others. Positivity will not be tolerated.
Funmeister: Your logic does not compute.
Gawker artist Travis Hammond: Fired for that silly iPod art. Also, no one really says "ubik." If I see your art on Valleywag again, I'm calling security.
Michael Schurter, I don't get you. Fired.

Expect the same thing soon from the Giz. Who will be the first five trolls to march to the gallows? Comments? [sound of crickets, tumbleweed blows by] Anyone? Recommendations?

Comment Cull: You're Fired [Valleywag]

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