So far I've seen the specs, the pictures, the reviews, and the insides. Now all I need is to try one out for myself. If I have a good experience from that, Apple will be getting my money.
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The i7 tech looks pretty impressive. I will most likely building a Windows 7 box with i7 as well.
@Razta: you have to push it fast. the faster you push it, the faster it goes. It's like doing the bonus stage in street fighter 2 with E-honda or Chun-li (or Blanka. but nobody picks Blanka.)
@Razta: In a lot of cases, yes. My 286 had a Turbo switch instead of a button, but it would double the speed of the CPU from 8MHz to 16MHz.
Ultimate POWAH!
and yet, do you think this guy gets even close to all the poonanny he deserves? NO.
you'd think being a brilliant scientist on the cutting edge of quantum physics/computing that will likely usher in a new era of exponential crunching power that will save millions of lives through protein simulation and genetic analysis would get you some, but no. for that you need $500 sunglasses, a disposition of imposing, brutish ignorance, a german car, and huge lats. also, you have to dance and pluck your eyebrows.
@nutbastard: I'm not sure where you've been hanging out, but there are plenty of nerd-loving chicks in the Pacific Northwest. Thanks to Microsoft for that little culture shift.
im in san jose, where not only is the population 6:4 men to women, every other guy here is an engineer like myself - though usually better paid and with a college degree.
if i moved to alabama they'd herald me as a god damn genius. here in the valley, im just slightly under par.
This time next year, there will be a Java JVM for it and the Linux community will have made drivers to connect their peripherals. The interface will be clumsy and clunky until Apple comes in and makes it look great. Microsoft/Google will make cheaper versions that are just as good but slightly less pretty. Then, in about ten years, when the tech just starts to become truly ubiquitous, Giz will write an article declaring the tech "dead", and ushering in the rise of the next new tech that only a few early adopters are using.
Analysts refer to this phenomenon as "the circle of tech".
Apple will charge a kidney and a cornea for what is basically Linux.
Linux it's self will be compatible with more hardware only geeks use. But it will still get the best performance from the technology. Canonical will colour it all brown.
Microsoft will build a version that crashes constantly. Their EULA will also require your soul.
Google will re-brand the Linux version and use it to whore you to advertisers.
Damnit! That's crazy! I have a family member considering a new iMac, and I've told them already to just ignore the Core2Duo options, because the gains from the i5 are so great, but I had no idea the i7's would make such a large performance boost. . . #imaccorei7benchmarks
I think what Ballmer fails to realize is that people really do want what Apple is selling. I support approximately 100 PCs at my work. While I certainly appreciate a lot of what Microsoft offers (MS Office and Exchange being their two strongest points) there are times when I just wonder why their system is so darn bloated and complicated.
While I have to run and support Windows XP boxes at work at home I'm running Linux and OSX.
Another thing I've noticed is the general trend towards people wanting their computer to be more of an appliance. This unfortunately leaves Linux out for most applications (except for specialized uses like Netbooks) but the ease of use on a Mac is what many people are willing to pay that extra money for. Heck, there wouldn't be Hackintoshes out there if people didn't want to emulate the Mac.
Back in the mid 90s when I started learning my craft, Windows was hands down the best choice over Mac despite all the flaws of Win 95. Today the tides have changed and if price is equal for most home uses outside of gaming, OSX wins. #steveballmer
@Identity (Metric): i'm on the edge of my chair everyday waiting for the i7's to finally ship I want mine so bad! 8 gigs of ram is going to be so much fun to work with haha #imaci5speed
@johnnyabnormal: I *think* the answer is technically no, but more of a yes and no answer: Logic 9 supposedly offers better multi-core support, but is not yet optimized for Snow Leopard.
Since Logic does support multi-cores, and Logic SL support will only improve, if you're contemplating getting an iMac for Logic, I would definitely get an i5/i7.
@frigg: You bet your ass I'm upgrading soon! I have noticed that Logic Pro doesn't use all the cores in the G5 Quad. The latest version doesn't even run on a G5. The new iMac quad core configuration is actually more powerful than the G5 I have now, but I might wait till January to see what kind of beast is unleashed at the Mac Expo. #imaci5speed
@johnnyabnormal: If you are looking at a Mac Pro to replace the G5, keep in mind Apple has just been ploping them out into the market whenever, instead of releasing them at events. Most likely the Mac Pros will move to the Gulftown Xeons, meaning 6 and 12 core (12 and 24 with hyperthreading) beast boxes. #imaci5speed
@johnnyabnormal: I feel you...I wonder how good an iMac would really be at replacing a tower for Logic, how much you'd miss in terms of extra drives, cards, etc., for all that all-in-one goodness.
On another note, if you record enable a track, Logic tends to limit multi-core processing on purpose as a way to reduce latency (single core processing currently produces less latency than distributed processing across multiple cores).
As far as compatibility, Logic 9 will actually run on a G5, even though Apple doesn't officially support it.
But the writing's on the wall, and a new Logic ad to encourage hardware upgrades is reportedly in production that ends with a loin-clothed wrapped Charleton Heston fleeing a pack of malicious, talking apes only to discover a giant G5 Quad sticking out of a post apocalyptic beach sometime in Earth's future, attempting to boot up the latest version of Logic, generating a spinning beach ball of death and, screaming "Damn you! Damn You To Hell!!" drops to his knees in utter despair.... replaced by a 3 second full screen picture of one of Apple's shiny new iMacs. So, you know, maybe that is the way to go? #imaci5speed
As far as the cores go, if it doesn't using an i7 would be bad news because they use HT (hyper thread) which means that each core is split in two (not literally) and if the application doesn't support multiple cores it will run even slower than it would on a C2D.
@frigg: I'm also tempted to just get a bunch of servers and hook up some fiber/raid goodness for the bazillion orchestral samples I have. Even better to get them in another room so I don't have to hear the drives. #imaci5speed
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The i7 tech looks pretty impressive. I will most likely building a Windows 7 box with i7 as well.
11/18/09
Seams we are headed to the dark ages again. I'll keep all my P III processors, seams they can work fine for me.
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11/18/09
So the new feature is Turbo?
Meh. My old PC had Turbo. It's nice to see that the new iMacs can keep up with a 386/20 with 8MB of RAM.
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Did it actually do a damn thing other than light up a idiot light?
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Ultimate POWAH!
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you'd think being a brilliant scientist on the cutting edge of quantum physics/computing that will likely usher in a new era of exponential crunching power that will save millions of lives through protein simulation and genetic analysis would get you some, but no. for that you need $500 sunglasses, a disposition of imposing, brutish ignorance, a german car, and huge lats. also, you have to dance and pluck your eyebrows.
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careful, that works on a bell curve.
im in san jose, where not only is the population 6:4 men to women, every other guy here is an engineer like myself - though usually better paid and with a college degree.
if i moved to alabama they'd herald me as a god damn genius. here in the valley, im just slightly under par.
11/18/09
NOW GET OFF MY LAWN.
11/18/09
Analysts refer to this phenomenon as "the circle of tech".
11/18/09
Apple will charge a kidney and a cornea for what is basically Linux.
Linux it's self will be compatible with more hardware only geeks use. But it will still get the best performance from the technology. Canonical will colour it all brown.
Microsoft will build a version that crashes constantly. Their EULA will also require your soul.
Google will re-brand the Linux version and use it to whore you to advertisers.
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^__^
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I am a little disappointed in the lack of giant switches.
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While I have to run and support Windows XP boxes at work at home I'm running Linux and OSX.
Another thing I've noticed is the general trend towards people wanting their computer to be more of an appliance. This unfortunately leaves Linux out for most applications (except for specialized uses like Netbooks) but the ease of use on a Mac is what many people are willing to pay that extra money for. Heck, there wouldn't be Hackintoshes out there if people didn't want to emulate the Mac.
Back in the mid 90s when I started learning my craft, Windows was hands down the best choice over Mac despite all the flaws of Win 95. Today the tides have changed and if price is equal for most home uses outside of gaming, OSX wins. #steveballmer
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Of course, I'm going to install 8 gigs of ram without paying Apple to do it. :) #imaci5speed
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Since Logic does support multi-cores, and Logic SL support will only improve, if you're contemplating getting an iMac for Logic, I would definitely get an i5/i7.
Looking to replace that G5 Quad? ;) #imaci5speed
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On another note, if you record enable a track, Logic tends to limit multi-core processing on purpose as a way to reduce latency (single core processing currently produces less latency than distributed processing across multiple cores).
As far as compatibility, Logic 9 will actually run on a G5, even though Apple doesn't officially support it.
But the writing's on the wall, and a new Logic ad to encourage hardware upgrades is reportedly in production that ends with a loin-clothed wrapped Charleton Heston fleeing a pack of malicious, talking apes only to discover a giant G5 Quad sticking out of a post apocalyptic beach sometime in Earth's future, attempting to boot up the latest version of Logic, generating a spinning beach ball of death and, screaming "Damn you! Damn You To Hell!!" drops to his knees in utter despair.... replaced by a 3 second full screen picture of one of Apple's shiny new iMacs. So, you know, maybe that is the way to go? #imaci5speed
11/13/09
As far as the cores go, if it doesn't using an i7 would be bad news because they use HT (hyper thread) which means that each core is split in two (not literally) and if the application doesn't support multiple cores it will run even slower than it would on a C2D.
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