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Identity (Metric)
11/13/09

In reply to First of the Quad Core i5 iMac Benchmarks
I'm looking forward to the benchmarks on the i7. I am about 90% sure it's the computer I'm going to get.

Of course, I'm going to install 8 gigs of ram without paying Apple to do it. :) #imaci5speed
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AJMatesi
11/13/09

@Identity (Metric): i'm on the edge of my chair everyday waiting for the i7's to finally ship I want mine so bad! 8 gigs of ram is going to be so much fun to work with haha #imaci5speed
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Identity (Metric)
11/14/09

@AJMatesi: I definitely agree. And once the price decreases (dramatically), I want to increase the ram to 16 gigs. Mmmmmmm. #imaci5speed
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johnnyabnormal
11/12/09

In reply to First of the Quad Core i5 iMac Benchmarks
Hmmm. Anyone know if Apple's new Logic Pro uses Snow Leopard's multi-core support? #imaci5speed
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frigg
11/12/09

@johnnyabnormal: I *think* the answer is technically no, but more of a yes and no answer: Logic 9 supposedly offers better multi-core support, but is not yet optimized for Snow Leopard.

Since Logic does support multi-cores, and Logic SL support will only improve, if you're contemplating getting an iMac for Logic, I would definitely get an i5/i7.

Looking to replace that G5 Quad? ;) #imaci5speed
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johnnyabnormal
11/12/09

@frigg: You bet your ass I'm upgrading soon! I have noticed that Logic Pro doesn't use all the cores in the G5 Quad. The latest version doesn't even run on a G5. The new iMac quad core configuration is actually more powerful than the G5 I have now, but I might wait till January to see what kind of beast is unleashed at the Mac Expo. #imaci5speed
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drakino
11/12/09

@johnnyabnormal: If you are looking at a Mac Pro to replace the G5, keep in mind Apple has just been ploping them out into the market whenever, instead of releasing them at events. Most likely the Mac Pros will move to the Gulftown Xeons, meaning 6 and 12 core (12 and 24 with hyperthreading) beast boxes. #imaci5speed
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frigg
11/13/09

@johnnyabnormal: I feel you...I wonder how good an iMac would really be at replacing a tower for Logic, how much you'd miss in terms of extra drives, cards, etc., for all that all-in-one goodness.

On another note, if you record enable a track, Logic tends to limit multi-core processing on purpose as a way to reduce latency (single core processing currently produces less latency than distributed processing across multiple cores).

As far as compatibility, Logic 9 will actually run on a G5, even though Apple doesn't officially support it.

But the writing's on the wall, and a new Logic ad to encourage hardware upgrades is reportedly in production that ends with a loin-clothed wrapped Charleton Heston fleeing a pack of malicious, talking apes only to discover a giant G5 Quad sticking out of a post apocalyptic beach sometime in Earth's future, attempting to boot up the latest version of Logic, generating a spinning beach ball of death and, screaming "Damn you! Damn You To Hell!!" drops to his knees in utter despair.... replaced by a 3 second full screen picture of one of Apple's shiny new iMacs. So, you know, maybe that is the way to go? #imaci5speed
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UnderLoK
11/13/09

@johnnyabnormal: Long time no see!

As far as the cores go, if it doesn't using an i7 would be bad news because they use HT (hyper thread) which means that each core is split in two (not literally) and if the application doesn't support multiple cores it will run even slower than it would on a C2D.
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johnnyabnormal
11/13/09

@drakino: I've also heard there might be support for up to 128 GB of RAM. Crazy. #imaci5speed
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johnnyabnormal
11/13/09

@frigg: I also wonder about the backwards compatability too... Nothing like trying to open a sequence from 2003 and getting cock blocked! #imaci5speed
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johnnyabnormal
11/13/09

@frigg: Also: I wonder why Logic (on a G5) doesn't use all cores during a non-real time bounce? #imaci5speed
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johnnyabnormal
11/13/09

@UnderLoK: Howdy. Has been a while! #imaci5speed
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johnnyabnormal
11/13/09

@frigg: I'm also tempted to just get a bunch of servers and hook up some fiber/raid goodness for the bazillion orchestral samples I have. Even better to get them in another room so I don't have to hear the drives. #imaci5speed
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newgalactic
11/12/09

In reply to First of the Quad Core i5 iMac Benchmarks
Wow, I am really looking forward to building my own PC. But that 27" iMac with the i7 chip is making it difficult. At $2200, it's very difficult to build what I want with a with a 27" back-lit LED LCD monitor for much cheaper than the iMac.

...It's the monitor that kills my PC build's price. There isn't much available for that size/quality for a reasonable amount of $$$.

Also, yeah, the PC is still cheaper, but not by much. And when you consider that I plan on Hackintosh'ing it up, the pain factor goes up by a rather large amount. Not having to worry about any updates would be a nice plus. Kinda makes the now much smaller price difference pretty negligible.

...this iMac has kinda killed the Apple-tax (except for Mac Pro's).
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Eulatos
11/12/09

@newgalactic: Yeah a 27" LED Back-lit IPS panel would run you about 1500 on the cheap side; if it was available yet.

As a previous hardcore gamer/build my own pc type i have been perfectly satisfied with my last gen high end iMac with the 3.06, 4gb ram and 8800gts. I play aion on high, cant play crysis on high but meh. My old rig (and now media server) was a q6600, 4gb ram and twin 8800 gtx's.

The one thing i just couldnt beat in price--and why i didnt buy a mac pro at the time-- was the 24" ips panel built in, which just rocks for working on and is pretty fucking awesome for gaming.

Sorry for my lame rant. #imaci5speed
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duffyanneal loves toast
11/12/09

@newgalactic: If you have the right friends you can pick up the i7 iMac for a little over $2K. #imaci5speed
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nerv11
11/12/09

@newgalactic: I'm almost in the seat beside in that boat. I'll admit these new macs are actually kinda fairly priced by Apple's standards. And I'm also wanting to build my own PC in the next few months from scratch. (Well I bought a new 24" monitor recently to hook up to my laptop for starters...) The only aesthetic part I don't like about the new imacs is the sharp corners on the black screen's edge, I think the rounded ones would've looked much better.

Still I think input/output ports are kinda limited overall on macs, and building me a PC seems it would be a much more convenient road. Coupled with the fact that I'm a PC guy and want to get my hands in building a PC means I'll going with option a) Building a computer. (New macs do honestly look tempting with the specs n' all, but Windows is better for me, and I don't respect Apple)
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PeterQC
11/12/09

@newgalactic: You also have to take into consideration that the screens are IPS.

It really depend on what you want. You want the nice design? iMac. You want to not be stuck with your specs and update when you feel like it? Hackintosh #imaci5speed
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jayhawk11 has assimilated
11/12/09

In reply to First of the Quad Core i5 iMac Benchmarks
Still crazy to think that 5 years ago, performance like this was unimaginable.

Moore's Law FTW. #imaci5speed
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The5thElephant
11/12/09

@jayhawk11 has assimilated: Even crazier to think what we will have 5 years from now.

Will the iMac brand still exist though? How long can a brand like this last? #imaci5speed
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ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
11/12/09

@The5thElephant: please please please be implanted brain powered HUD computers. #imaci5speed
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sqlrob
11/12/09

@The5thElephant: The brand is already 10 years old, so a long time. #imaci5speed
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The5thElephant
11/12/09

@oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo...: I'd say give it 20 years before that even begins to be feasible. It takes a lot more than just processing power to decode and code neurological information. We need to learn more about the brain, and the hardware would have to be able to adapt to each person's uniquely connected brain. #imaci5speed
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The5thElephant
11/12/09

@sqlrob: Well I'm thinking more theoretically. For example a drink brand like Coke is going to last a lot longer than a tech brand (or so I imagine, a lot of tech hasn't been around as long as Coke). #imaci5speed
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ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
11/12/09

@The5thElephant: Im banking on alien technology/ and or drunken science experiments..

"Whadda ya know! its working." #imaci5speed
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Kerfudle:
11/12/09

@The5thElephant:
Nintendo is over 120 years old... #imaci5speed
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The5thElephant
11/13/09

@Kerfudle: : That's a company, not a product brand. Different kinda thing. #imaci5speed
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Kerfudle:
11/13/09

@The5thElephant:
Its still impressive. #imaci5speed
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tamoko
11/12/09

In reply to First of the Quad Core i5 iMac Benchmarks
Damn... I love me some multi-threaded 64 bit goodness, regardless of the OS or platform... Might be time to upgrade and turn the G5 tower into a closet server. #imaci5speed
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STFU_FPU!
11/12/09

@tamoko: nah, let it stay out of the closet! there is too much hatred in the world already ;-) #imaci5speed
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hfutrell
11/12/09

@tamoko: save on your power bill and sell the G5 instead(!) #imaci5speed
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hfutrell
11/12/09

@hfutrell: to explain myself a little more ... the G5 has 120-140 watts idle power usage ... more if you've installed more RAM or additional hard drives. Leave that thing on 24-7-365 and you're looking at paying an extra $130-150 per year in electricity bills (based on 12 cents per kilowatt hour). #imaci5speed
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[DFX] Deimos
11/12/09

@hfutrell: I have 2 computers with 1KW PSUs that run 24/7.

/Doesn't Care #imaci5speed
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tamoko
12:29 AM

@hfutrell: Good point.. it is a tad of an energy hog. #imaci5speed
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HeroOfTomorrow
11/03/09

In reply to Disposable Laptop Works Better as a Metaphor Than as an Actual Product
So, it's powered by a cardboard battery?
Did they just solve global warming? #disposablelaptop
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Hello Mister Walrus
11/03/09

In reply to Disposable Laptop Works Better as a Metaphor Than as an Actual Product
You could argue that laptops are already "disposable" - they just last for a few years while disposable cameras last for X number of shots. #disposablelaptop
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Gordonium
11/04/09

@Hello Mister Walrus: Yep. And speaking of, almost time to dispose of this hunkajunk... #disposablelaptop
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Sword-chucks
11/03/09

In reply to Disposable Laptop Works Better as a Metaphor Than as an Actual Product
I think Laptops are way too much of a personal item to have throwaways... It's hard to make a camera "yours", so it's easy to have a detachment to the product, unless of course you have a bedazzler and rein stone the shit out of it.

Throwing away a laptop or desktop, to me, is like euthanizing your dog... #disposablelaptop
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MarcusMaximus
11/03/09

In reply to Disposable Laptop Works Better as a Metaphor Than as an Actual Product
Well, disposable cameras made sense because a camera takes a set number of pictures before you have to change the film reel(this is before digital cameras, obviously), so they did away with the need to do so by making them single use. You could then get the pictures out of it and be done with it.

What's the set number of things you do with a laptop before needing to mess with it somehow? What permanence is there to anything you did on said laptop once it's disposed of? Are they expecting some kind of laptop developing stores that will rip out the harddrive and throw the data on a flash drive or something?

I just don't see the equivalent uses that would complete the analogy between this and a disposable camera, and thus make this worthwhile. #disposablelaptop
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Xagest
11/03/09

@MarcusMaximus: Cloud Computing + one-time-use battery #disposablelaptop
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ethanlechcharles
11/03/09

In reply to Disposable Laptop Works Better as a Metaphor Than as an Actual Product
I don't really understand..
With cameras you use the film and then bring the camera in for processing.. What about these laptops would stop anyone from just using them forever? Unless there's a joke in here that I don't get.

Anyways, gotta go get my hard drive developed. #disposablelaptop
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gabuzecs
11/03/09

In reply to Disposable Laptop Works Better as a Metaphor Than as an Actual Product
How about one made of cheese? #disposablelaptop
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Kaiser-Machead
11/03/09

In reply to Disposable Laptop Works Better as a Metaphor Than as an Actual Product
It needs to be made out of the same material used for ice cream cones. I'd don't want my precious data going into the wrong hands. It must return to whence it came. #disposablelaptop
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Lite: hates Illinois Nazis
11/03/09

@Kaiser-Machead: Sprinkle and chocolate dipped, or waffle? #disposablelaptop
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Hello Mister Walrus
11/03/09

@Kaiser-Machead: Your data comes from poo? #disposablelaptop
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Lite: hates Illinois Nazis
11/03/09

In reply to Disposable Laptop Works Better as a Metaphor Than as an Actual Product
Disposable laptops? I thought the term Netbook already encompassed this idea. #disposablelaptop
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james-am
11/03/09

@Lite: hates Illinois Nazis: Could you bring yourself to throw away your £200 netbook then..? #disposablelaptop
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Lite: hates Illinois Nazis
11/03/09

@james-am: If I spent $200 US on a laptop/computer, I'd consider it throw-away. #disposablelaptop
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I see the light. It burns!
11/03/09

@Lite: hates Illinois Nazis: Throw it this way then, please. I need something to help distract my 2 year old son when he goes all "gremlin" on me.

-"Look, shiny buttons!! DESTROY THAT!!" #disposablelaptop
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Lite: hates Illinois Nazis
11/03/09

@I see the light. It burns!: That would mean that I would spend a mere $200 on a laptop/computer.

Basically, I just don't buy disposable crap. #disposablelaptop
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brobot - Beboptimus Prime
10/28/09

In reply to Y550 Laptop Lenovo's First With a Core i7 Inside
What's the availability date for this? Does anyone know? cuz I don't see anything on Lenovo's site about a Core i7 option... But I'd like to spec one out to price it #lenovoy550
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linterry
10/24/09

In reply to Apple iMac Review: 27 Inches and Less Chin
Good review!

I also had mixed feelings about the 27" screen. It's big, impressive, and blows you away at first sight, but at the same time it's rather fatiguing on the eyes because of the high dpi. Only time will tell if this iMac can be comfortably usable for long durations.

Also copious amounts of heat is correct. This iMac is sizzling hot to the touch near the CPU and GPU units. Could function very well as a heater in the cold winter months.
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Brian Lam
10/25/09

@linterry: 108 degrees on top! #appleimac27inch
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Steve
10/27/09

@Brian Lam: My laptop's screen has a pretty high DPI (1600*900 at 13.1 inches) and I have gotten used to it over time. I definitely think the extra pixels are worth getting used to the screen. #appleimac27inch
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Brian Lam
11/04/09

@Steve: the issue is that you sit closer to small laptopscreens than big 27 inchers. its like a tv with a resolution of a laptop. cellphone have even more res. #appleimac27inch
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