• Gizmodo
  • bestmodo
  • lifehacker
  • kotaku
  • Profile logout login

#computers#msg176001

Gizmodo

Share Cancel
   
Upload an image | Add an image URL
×

logging in
  • FAQ. Include # before tag:
  • #tips,
  • #dealzmodo,
  • #rumors,
  • #broken,
  • #iphoneapps,
  • #apple,
  • etc.

New York, 2:33 PM
Sun Nov 15
16 posts in the last 24 hours

FR | IT | DE | SP | JP | AU | BR

Gizmodo Team

Tip your editors:
tips@gizmodo.com

Editorial Director:
Brian Lam | Email | Twitter

Editor:
Jason Chen
Email | AIM | Twitter

Features Editor:
Wilson Rothman
Email | Twitter

Senior Contributing Editor:
Jesus Diaz
Email | AIM | Twitter
Mark Wilson, Reviews
Email | AIM | Twitter

Contributing Editors:
Matt Buchanan
Email | AIM | Twitter
Adam Frucci
Email | Twitter
Sean Fallon
Email | Twitter
Jack Loftus
Email | Twitter
John Herrman
Email | Twitter
Dan Nosowitz
Email
Chris Mascari
Email
Danny Allen
Email | Twitter

Columnist:
Brendan I. Koerner

Interns:
Don Nguyen
Email
Chris Jacob
Email

Comment Intern:
Nick Ellenoff | Email

Heroes and Friends

Comment Account Questions:
Comments@gizmodo.com

SUBSCRIBE TO Gizmodo RSS

New: Breaking news and daily top stories via email
9515 Subscribers
Gizmodo
  • Your version of Internet Explorer is not supported. Please upgrade to the most recent version in order to view comments.
    Dsmvwl  Admin  Promote to frontpage Approve user Ban user ×
    Image of Identity (Metric) Identity (Metric)
    11/13/09

    In reply to First of the Quad Core i5 iMac Benchmarks
    I'm looking forward to the benchmarks on the i7. I am about 90% sure it's the computer I'm going to get.

    Of course, I'm going to install 8 gigs of ram without paying Apple to do it. :) #imaci5speed
     Reply
    Identity (Metric) was starred Identity (Metric) was unstarred
    Image of AJMatesi AJMatesi
    11/13/09

    @Identity (Metric): i'm on the edge of my chair everyday waiting for the i7's to finally ship I want mine so bad! 8 gigs of ram is going to be so much fun to work with haha #imaci5speed
     Reply
    Identity (Metric) promoted this comment AJMatesi was starred AJMatesi was unstarred
    Image of Identity (Metric) Identity (Metric)
    11/14/09

    @AJMatesi: I definitely agree. And once the price decreases (dramatically), I want to increase the ram to 16 gigs. Mmmmmmm. #imaci5speed
     Reply
    Identity (Metric) was starred Identity (Metric) was unstarred
    Image of johnnyabnormal johnnyabnormal
    11/12/09

    In reply to First of the Quad Core i5 iMac Benchmarks
    Hmmm. Anyone know if Apple's new Logic Pro uses Snow Leopard's multi-core support? #imaci5speed
     Reply
    johnnyabnormal was starred johnnyabnormal was unstarred
    Image of frigg frigg
    11/12/09

    @johnnyabnormal: I *think* the answer is technically no, but more of a yes and no answer: Logic 9 supposedly offers better multi-core support, but is not yet optimized for Snow Leopard.

    Since Logic does support multi-cores, and Logic SL support will only improve, if you're contemplating getting an iMac for Logic, I would definitely get an i5/i7.

    Looking to replace that G5 Quad? ;) #imaci5speed
     Reply
    frigg was starred frigg was unstarred
    Image of johnnyabnormal johnnyabnormal
    11/12/09

    @frigg: You bet your ass I'm upgrading soon! I have noticed that Logic Pro doesn't use all the cores in the G5 Quad. The latest version doesn't even run on a G5. The new iMac quad core configuration is actually more powerful than the G5 I have now, but I might wait till January to see what kind of beast is unleashed at the Mac Expo. #imaci5speed
     Reply
    johnnyabnormal was starred johnnyabnormal was unstarred
    Image of drakino drakino
    11/12/09

    @johnnyabnormal: If you are looking at a Mac Pro to replace the G5, keep in mind Apple has just been ploping them out into the market whenever, instead of releasing them at events. Most likely the Mac Pros will move to the Gulftown Xeons, meaning 6 and 12 core (12 and 24 with hyperthreading) beast boxes. #imaci5speed
     Reply
    johnnyabnormal promoted this comment drakino was starred drakino was unstarred
    Image of frigg frigg
    11/13/09

    @johnnyabnormal: I feel you...I wonder how good an iMac would really be at replacing a tower for Logic, how much you'd miss in terms of extra drives, cards, etc., for all that all-in-one goodness.

    On another note, if you record enable a track, Logic tends to limit multi-core processing on purpose as a way to reduce latency (single core processing currently produces less latency than distributed processing across multiple cores).

    As far as compatibility, Logic 9 will actually run on a G5, even though Apple doesn't officially support it.

    But the writing's on the wall, and a new Logic ad to encourage hardware upgrades is reportedly in production that ends with a loin-clothed wrapped Charleton Heston fleeing a pack of malicious, talking apes only to discover a giant G5 Quad sticking out of a post apocalyptic beach sometime in Earth's future, attempting to boot up the latest version of Logic, generating a spinning beach ball of death and, screaming "Damn you! Damn You To Hell!!" drops to his knees in utter despair.... replaced by a 3 second full screen picture of one of Apple's shiny new iMacs. So, you know, maybe that is the way to go? #imaci5speed
     Reply
    frigg was starred frigg was unstarred
    Image of UnderLoK UnderLoK
    11/13/09

    @johnnyabnormal: Long time no see!

    As far as the cores go, if it doesn't using an i7 would be bad news because they use HT (hyper thread) which means that each core is split in two (not literally) and if the application doesn't support multiple cores it will run even slower than it would on a C2D.
     Reply
    Edited by UnderLoK at 11/13/09 9:17 AM UnderLoK was starred UnderLoK was unstarred
    Image of johnnyabnormal johnnyabnormal
    11/13/09

    @drakino: I've also heard there might be support for up to 128 GB of RAM. Crazy. #imaci5speed
     Reply
    johnnyabnormal was starred johnnyabnormal was unstarred
    Image of johnnyabnormal johnnyabnormal
    11/13/09

    @frigg: I also wonder about the backwards compatability too... Nothing like trying to open a sequence from 2003 and getting cock blocked! #imaci5speed
     Reply
    johnnyabnormal was starred johnnyabnormal was unstarred
    Image of johnnyabnormal johnnyabnormal
    11/13/09

    @frigg: Also: I wonder why Logic (on a G5) doesn't use all cores during a non-real time bounce? #imaci5speed
     Reply
    johnnyabnormal was starred johnnyabnormal was unstarred
    Image of johnnyabnormal johnnyabnormal
    11/13/09

    @UnderLoK: Howdy. Has been a while! #imaci5speed
     Reply
    johnnyabnormal was starred johnnyabnormal was unstarred
    Image of johnnyabnormal johnnyabnormal
    11/13/09

    @frigg: I'm also tempted to just get a bunch of servers and hook up some fiber/raid goodness for the bazillion orchestral samples I have. Even better to get them in another room so I don't have to hear the drives. #imaci5speed
     Reply
    johnnyabnormal was starred johnnyabnormal was unstarred
    Image of newgalactic newgalactic
    11/12/09

    In reply to First of the Quad Core i5 iMac Benchmarks
    Wow, I am really looking forward to building my own PC. But that 27" iMac with the i7 chip is making it difficult. At $2200, it's very difficult to build what I want with a with a 27" back-lit LED LCD monitor for much cheaper than the iMac.

    ...It's the monitor that kills my PC build's price. There isn't much available for that size/quality for a reasonable amount of $$$.

    Also, yeah, the PC is still cheaper, but not by much. And when you consider that I plan on Hackintosh'ing it up, the pain factor goes up by a rather large amount. Not having to worry about any updates would be a nice plus. Kinda makes the now much smaller price difference pretty negligible.

    ...this iMac has kinda killed the Apple-tax (except for Mac Pro's).
     Reply
    Edited by newgalactic at 11/12/09 6:56 PM newgalactic was starred newgalactic was unstarred
    Image of Eulatos Eulatos
    11/12/09

    @newgalactic: Yeah a 27" LED Back-lit IPS panel would run you about 1500 on the cheap side; if it was available yet.

    As a previous hardcore gamer/build my own pc type i have been perfectly satisfied with my last gen high end iMac with the 3.06, 4gb ram and 8800gts. I play aion on high, cant play crysis on high but meh. My old rig (and now media server) was a q6600, 4gb ram and twin 8800 gtx's.

    The one thing i just couldnt beat in price--and why i didnt buy a mac pro at the time-- was the 24" ips panel built in, which just rocks for working on and is pretty fucking awesome for gaming.

    Sorry for my lame rant. #imaci5speed
     Reply
    TheSonOfKrypton promoted this comment Eulatos was starred Eulatos was unstarred
    Image of duffyanneal loves toast duffyanneal loves toast
    11/12/09

    @newgalactic: If you have the right friends you can pick up the i7 iMac for a little over $2K. #imaci5speed
     Reply
    TheSonOfKrypton promoted this comment duffyanneal loves toast was starred duffyanneal loves toast was unstarred
    Image of nerv11 nerv11
    11/12/09

    @newgalactic: I'm almost in the seat beside in that boat. I'll admit these new macs are actually kinda fairly priced by Apple's standards. And I'm also wanting to build my own PC in the next few months from scratch. (Well I bought a new 24" monitor recently to hook up to my laptop for starters...) The only aesthetic part I don't like about the new imacs is the sharp corners on the black screen's edge, I think the rounded ones would've looked much better.

    Still I think input/output ports are kinda limited overall on macs, and building me a PC seems it would be a much more convenient road. Coupled with the fact that I'm a PC guy and want to get my hands in building a PC means I'll going with option a) Building a computer. (New macs do honestly look tempting with the specs n' all, but Windows is better for me, and I don't respect Apple)
     Reply
    TheSonOfKrypton promoted this comment Edited by nerv11 at 11/12/09 7:15 PM nerv11 was starred nerv11 was unstarred
    Image of PeterQC PeterQC
    11/12/09

    @newgalactic: You also have to take into consideration that the screens are IPS.

    It really depend on what you want. You want the nice design? iMac. You want to not be stuck with your specs and update when you feel like it? Hackintosh #imaci5speed
     Reply
    TheSonOfKrypton promoted this comment PeterQC was starred PeterQC was unstarred
    Image of jayhawk11 has assimilated jayhawk11 has assimilated
    11/12/09

    In reply to First of the Quad Core i5 iMac Benchmarks
    Still crazy to think that 5 years ago, performance like this was unimaginable.

    Moore's Law FTW. #imaci5speed
     Reply
    jayhawk11 has assimilated was starred jayhawk11 has assimilated was unstarred
    Image of The5thElephant The5thElephant
    11/12/09

    @jayhawk11 has assimilated: Even crazier to think what we will have 5 years from now.

    Will the iMac brand still exist though? How long can a brand like this last? #imaci5speed
     Reply
    The5thElephant was starred The5thElephant was unstarred
    Image of ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
    11/12/09

    @The5thElephant: please please please be implanted brain powered HUD computers. #imaci5speed
     Reply
    The5thElephant promoted this comment ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo was starred ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo was unstarred
    Image of sqlrob sqlrob
    11/12/09

    @The5thElephant: The brand is already 10 years old, so a long time. #imaci5speed
     Reply
    The5thElephant promoted this comment sqlrob was starred sqlrob was unstarred
    Image of The5thElephant The5thElephant
    11/12/09

    @oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo...: I'd say give it 20 years before that even begins to be feasible. It takes a lot more than just processing power to decode and code neurological information. We need to learn more about the brain, and the hardware would have to be able to adapt to each person's uniquely connected brain. #imaci5speed
     Reply
    The5thElephant was starred The5thElephant was unstarred
    Image of The5thElephant The5thElephant
    11/12/09

    @sqlrob: Well I'm thinking more theoretically. For example a drink brand like Coke is going to last a lot longer than a tech brand (or so I imagine, a lot of tech hasn't been around as long as Coke). #imaci5speed
     Reply
    The5thElephant was starred The5thElephant was unstarred
    Image of ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
    11/12/09

    @The5thElephant: Im banking on alien technology/ and or drunken science experiments..

    "Whadda ya know! its working." #imaci5speed
     Reply
    ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo was starred ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo was unstarred
    Image of Kerfudle: Kerfudle:
    11/12/09

    @The5thElephant:
    Nintendo is over 120 years old... #imaci5speed
     Reply
    The5thElephant promoted this comment Kerfudle: was starred Kerfudle: was unstarred
    Image of The5thElephant The5thElephant
    11/13/09

    @Kerfudle: : That's a company, not a product brand. Different kinda thing. #imaci5speed
     Reply
    The5thElephant was starred The5thElephant was unstarred
    Image of Kerfudle: Kerfudle:
    11/13/09

    @The5thElephant:
    Its still impressive. #imaci5speed
     Reply
    Kerfudle: was starred Kerfudle: was unstarred
    Image of tamoko tamoko
    11/12/09

    In reply to First of the Quad Core i5 iMac Benchmarks
    Damn... I love me some multi-threaded 64 bit goodness, regardless of the OS or platform... Might be time to upgrade and turn the G5 tower into a closet server. #imaci5speed
     Reply
    tamoko was starred tamoko was unstarred
    Image of STFU_FPU! STFU_FPU!
    11/12/09

    @tamoko: nah, let it stay out of the closet! there is too much hatred in the world already ;-) #imaci5speed
     Reply
    tamoko promoted this comment STFU_FPU! was starred STFU_FPU! was unstarred
    Image of hfutrell hfutrell
    11/12/09

    @tamoko: save on your power bill and sell the G5 instead(!) #imaci5speed
     Reply
    hfutrell was starred hfutrell was unstarred
    Image of hfutrell hfutrell
    11/12/09

    @hfutrell: to explain myself a little more ... the G5 has 120-140 watts idle power usage ... more if you've installed more RAM or additional hard drives. Leave that thing on 24-7-365 and you're looking at paying an extra $130-150 per year in electricity bills (based on 12 cents per kilowatt hour). #imaci5speed
     Reply
    hfutrell was starred hfutrell was unstarred
    Image of [DFX] Deimos [DFX] Deimos
    11/12/09

    @hfutrell: I have 2 computers with 1KW PSUs that run 24/7.

    /Doesn't Care #imaci5speed
     Reply
    Identity (Metric) promoted this comment [DFX] Deimos was starred [DFX] Deimos was unstarred
    Image of tamoko tamoko
    12:29 AM

    @hfutrell: Good point.. it is a tad of an energy hog. #imaci5speed
     Reply
    tamoko was starred tamoko was unstarred
    Image of hfutrell hfutrell
    07:28 AM

    @tamoko: indeed, although compared to a Pentium 4 it's a Toyota Prius. #imaci5speed
     Reply
    hfutrell was starred hfutrell was unstarred
    Image of HeroOfTomorrow HeroOfTomorrow
    11/03/09

    In reply to Disposable Laptop Works Better as a Metaphor Than as an Actual Product
    So, it's powered by a cardboard battery?
    Did they just solve global warming? #disposablelaptop
     Reply
    tamoko promoted this comment HeroOfTomorrow was starred HeroOfTomorrow was unstarred
    Image of Hello Mister Walrus Hello Mister Walrus
    11/03/09

    In reply to Disposable Laptop Works Better as a Metaphor Than as an Actual Product
    You could argue that laptops are already "disposable" - they just last for a few years while disposable cameras last for X number of shots. #disposablelaptop
     Reply
    Hello Mister Walrus was starred Hello Mister Walrus was unstarred
    Image of Gordonium Gordonium
    11/04/09

    @Hello Mister Walrus: Yep. And speaking of, almost time to dispose of this hunkajunk... #disposablelaptop
     Reply
    Gordonium was starred Gordonium was unstarred
    Image of Sword-chucks Sword-chucks
    11/03/09

    In reply to Disposable Laptop Works Better as a Metaphor Than as an Actual Product
    I think Laptops are way too much of a personal item to have throwaways... It's hard to make a camera "yours", so it's easy to have a detachment to the product, unless of course you have a bedazzler and rein stone the shit out of it.

    Throwing away a laptop or desktop, to me, is like euthanizing your dog... #disposablelaptop
     Reply
    nutbastard promoted this comment Sword-chucks was starred Sword-chucks was unstarred
    Image of MarcusMaximus MarcusMaximus
    11/03/09

    In reply to Disposable Laptop Works Better as a Metaphor Than as an Actual Product
    Well, disposable cameras made sense because a camera takes a set number of pictures before you have to change the film reel(this is before digital cameras, obviously), so they did away with the need to do so by making them single use. You could then get the pictures out of it and be done with it.

    What's the set number of things you do with a laptop before needing to mess with it somehow? What permanence is there to anything you did on said laptop once it's disposed of? Are they expecting some kind of laptop developing stores that will rip out the harddrive and throw the data on a flash drive or something?

    I just don't see the equivalent uses that would complete the analogy between this and a disposable camera, and thus make this worthwhile. #disposablelaptop
     Reply
    Xagest promoted this comment MarcusMaximus was starred MarcusMaximus was unstarred
    Image of Xagest Xagest
    11/03/09

    @MarcusMaximus: Cloud Computing + one-time-use battery #disposablelaptop
     Reply
    Xagest was starred Xagest was unstarred
    Image of ethanlechcharles ethanlechcharles
    11/03/09

    In reply to Disposable Laptop Works Better as a Metaphor Than as an Actual Product
    I don't really understand..
    With cameras you use the film and then bring the camera in for processing.. What about these laptops would stop anyone from just using them forever? Unless there's a joke in here that I don't get.

    Anyways, gotta go get my hard drive developed. #disposablelaptop
     Reply
    nutbastard promoted this comment ethanlechcharles was starred ethanlechcharles was unstarred
    Image of gabuzecs gabuzecs
    11/03/09

    In reply to Disposable Laptop Works Better as a Metaphor Than as an Actual Product
    How about one made of cheese? #disposablelaptop
     Reply
    qbrad promoted this comment gabuzecs was starred gabuzecs was unstarred
    Image of Kaiser-Machead Kaiser-Machead
    11/03/09

    In reply to Disposable Laptop Works Better as a Metaphor Than as an Actual Product
    It needs to be made out of the same material used for ice cream cones. I'd don't want my precious data going into the wrong hands. It must return to whence it came. #disposablelaptop
     Reply
    Kaiser-Machead was starred Kaiser-Machead was unstarred
    Image of Lite: hates Illinois Nazis Lite: hates Illinois Nazis
    11/03/09

    @Kaiser-Machead: Sprinkle and chocolate dipped, or waffle? #disposablelaptop
     Reply
    Lite: hates Illinois Nazis was starred Lite: hates Illinois Nazis was unstarred
    Image of Hello Mister Walrus Hello Mister Walrus
    11/03/09

    @Kaiser-Machead: Your data comes from poo? #disposablelaptop
     Reply
    Hello Mister Walrus was starred Hello Mister Walrus was unstarred
    Image of Lite: hates Illinois Nazis Lite: hates Illinois Nazis
    11/03/09

    In reply to Disposable Laptop Works Better as a Metaphor Than as an Actual Product
    Disposable laptops? I thought the term Netbook already encompassed this idea. #disposablelaptop
     Reply
    Lite: hates Illinois Nazis was starred Lite: hates Illinois Nazis was unstarred
    Image of james-am james-am
    11/03/09

    @Lite: hates Illinois Nazis: Could you bring yourself to throw away your £200 netbook then..? #disposablelaptop
     Reply
    Lite: hates Illinois Nazis promoted this comment james-am was starred james-am was unstarred
    Image of Lite: hates Illinois Nazis Lite: hates Illinois Nazis
    11/03/09

    @james-am: If I spent $200 US on a laptop/computer, I'd consider it throw-away. #disposablelaptop
     Reply
    Lite: hates Illinois Nazis was starred Lite: hates Illinois Nazis was unstarred
    Image of I see the light. It burns! I see the light. It burns!
    11/03/09

    @Lite: hates Illinois Nazis: Throw it this way then, please. I need something to help distract my 2 year old son when he goes all "gremlin" on me.

    -"Look, shiny buttons!! DESTROY THAT!!" #disposablelaptop
     Reply
    Lite: hates Illinois Nazis promoted this comment I see the light. It burns! was starred I see the light. It burns! was unstarred
    Image of Lite: hates Illinois Nazis Lite: hates Illinois Nazis
    11/03/09

    @I see the light. It burns!: That would mean that I would spend a mere $200 on a laptop/computer.

    Basically, I just don't buy disposable crap. #disposablelaptop
     Reply
    Lite: hates Illinois Nazis was starred Lite: hates Illinois Nazis was unstarred
    Image of brobot - Beboptimus Prime brobot - Beboptimus Prime
    10/28/09

    In reply to Y550 Laptop Lenovo's First With a Core i7 Inside
    What's the availability date for this? Does anyone know? cuz I don't see anything on Lenovo's site about a Core i7 option... But I'd like to spec one out to price it #lenovoy550
     Reply
    brobot - Beboptimus Prime was starred brobot - Beboptimus Prime was unstarred
    Image of linterry linterry
    10/24/09

    In reply to Apple iMac Review: 27 Inches and Less Chin
    Good review!

    I also had mixed feelings about the 27" screen. It's big, impressive, and blows you away at first sight, but at the same time it's rather fatiguing on the eyes because of the high dpi. Only time will tell if this iMac can be comfortably usable for long durations.

    Also copious amounts of heat is correct. This iMac is sizzling hot to the touch near the CPU and GPU units. Could function very well as a heater in the cold winter months.
     Reply
    Brian Lam promoted this comment linterry was starred linterry was unstarred
    Image of Brian Lam Brian Lam
    10/25/09

    @linterry: 108 degrees on top! #appleimac27inch
     Reply
    Brian Lam was starred Brian Lam was unstarred
    Image of Steve Steve
    10/27/09

    @Brian Lam: My laptop's screen has a pretty high DPI (1600*900 at 13.1 inches) and I have gotten used to it over time. I definitely think the extra pixels are worth getting used to the screen. #appleimac27inch
     Reply
    Brian Lam promoted this comment Steve was starred Steve was unstarred
    Image of Brian Lam Brian Lam
    11/04/09

    @Steve: the issue is that you sit closer to small laptopscreens than big 27 inchers. its like a tv with a resolution of a laptop. cellphone have even more res. #appleimac27inch
     Reply
    Brian Lam was starred Brian Lam was unstarred
    Earlier discussions Other discussions Show all discussions Show featured discussions only Start a new discussion

Login

Enter your username and password.

Please enter a username.
Please enter your password.
logging in
Login via Facebook | Sign Up | Forgot Password?

Reset Password

Please enter your email address to have your password reset.

Please enter your email address.
Please enter a valid email address.
requesting password reset

Register

Registering will give you a user profile and the ability to add other users as friends. To become a commenter, however, you need to audition.

Want to know more? Consult the Comment FAQ and legal terms.

Please enter a username.
Please enter a password.
Please confirm your password.
Passwords are not identical.
Please enter a valid email address.
registration sent, waiting for reply

Submit Your Comment

You don't need to login to comment. Just enter your email address below.

See how your address will be displayed in the Comment FAQ.

Please enter a valid email address.
Please enter a valid email address.
logging in

Login with your Facebook or Gizmodo account.

Sign up here.



  • Archives
  • About
  • Advertising
  • Legal
  • Help
  • Report a Bug
  • FAQ
Original material is licensed under a Creative Commons License permitting non-commercial sharing with attribution.