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The 's' is for a more efficient processor (usually slightly underclocked). They run cooler (and therefore quieter) and are used mainly in slimline and HTPC models.
What's up with the codenames? I don't want my computer powered by a Bloomfield, I want it powered by a Desert Storm or something cool sounding like that.
I think Apple just rather pay exclusiveness for their chips to avoid the hackintosh situation.
I do wish this isn't truth, for hackintosh is doing a heaps of promotion of OSX amongst the geeks, And could be the best way to make people convert to the mac enviroment.
@ridgecity: I dont think Intel would want to restrict its CPUs like that. ATM apple does have exclusive CPUs at launch before the other cos get them in a couple of months.
If they hate hackintoshing they can always bring back the power pc lol!
Oh no! Are you quite sure? Marked with an "S", no less? It does portend rather ominously, does it not? I think I will have to sit down and have a cup of tea on this startling revelation!
It's a bit of a letdown on the gulftown, but it could just as easily be the case that they're simply already "reserved" by Apple.
there had better be some good deals when the Windows 7 RC starts shutting down. It's so much easier to just buy a new laptop than deal with an OS install.
I need an explanation, as I've never been much of a hardware guy but...
The lower the number, the less the processing power of a chip correct? So while lighter and less power-hungry is great, aren't these also less powerful, by a long way???
If someone can explain I'd be grateful, as I clearly don't get it (still running a P4 on my desktop at home so, I'm a little bit behind I suppose) #intel
First of all, not all GHz are equal. Back in the day when Intel and AMD were in major competition, Intel chips ran at higher Hz while AMD ran "better" Hz, meaning a lower Hz AMD machine was equivalent to a higher Intel one. This still applies today as one moves from one processor generation to the next.
Also these new i5/i7 processors can significantly over-clock or under-clock themselves in real-time according to need and energy efficiency. #intel
@D0rk: I think they're praying for mobile i5s and i7s. These are CULV chips, by the sounds of it, which you see in the Acer Timeline and similar laptops. Such a chip would be better suited for the Air than the MBP. [en.wikipedia.org]#intel
@ezrashapiro: They arent really slower. These are replacing older Core2 chips of the same speed that went into tiny laptops. They were ultra low voltage chips so they werent as powerful as the bigger ones going into desktops.
The ones they will be announcing in Jan for desktops will be much faster, as fast or more than the current crops. #intel
@ezrashapiro: Well, it's not clear from the very brief Giz post whether the new "thin" Core i7/i5 chips will be quad-core or dual-core. Obviously, a CPU with 4 cores running at 1.2 GHz is, for many things, faster than a 2-core chip running at 1.8 GHz (for example).
And since these new chips can dynamically speed up one core, while slowing down/shutting down another, for single-threaded apps that don't use multiple cores well, the overall effect is a more powerful chip.
Finally, the Core i7/i5 family uses a new architecture (design), which speeds up communications between the cores and between the cpu and memory, among other things. Just like a 4-cylinder Lotus engine beats the crap out of a 4-cylinder Chrysler... #intel
@Kirkaiya: Arrandale and Clarkdale will only be dual core in their whole lifetime. They do have an on-package GPU, so that's taking up the space. On-die GPU plus quad-core will come with Sandy Bridge in late 2010 or 2011.
@Kirkaiya: Thanks again. It's still not completely clear but perhaps it more an issue of programs knowing how to use the new hardware. I have an x9100 in my laptop with 4 GB of DDR2 RAM, and from the benchmarks, it rates higher than some quad core desktop processors, so it's still not completely clear. I understand the theory, but in practice with everyday computing, I want to see the theory flesh out. #intel
mmm, chips is right. I couldn't focus on reading this with that picture of those chips right there. You aren't helping my late afternoon cravings. #intel
@I-Love-Gizhacker: The full size keyboard is amazing. I never use the number pad on the right but theres something about having the full size. As for the mouse, Apple needs to call it quits and just bundle with Logitech. You can swap these components anyway. #appleimac
@imTheKing: Agreed. The fullsize keyboard w numpad is quite good. The mouse is... uh... how about Apple just stop making mice altogether? I mean, really. None of their mice has ever, during the entire course of human history, been good. At all. #appleimac
@Nathan Obbards: Well we'll never really know (at least I don't think). One of my designers said "but then all of the logitech mice would turn into single button mice!". I had a good chuckle over that. They really should just purchase Logitech and continue running the same team of designers / developers, and just bundle the damn mice into their own hardware. Then again, I guess they don't necessarily need to purchase them in order to bundle their mice. #appleimac
@imTheKing: Yeah. I would just see Jobs' ego getting in the way and forcing the Logitech team to conform to his will. Your designer is probably right. I mean, don't get me wrong, I think Apple makes some phenomenal products, but Jobs' ego gets in the way sometimes. #appleimac
@Eruanno: I think I am the only person in the world who not only likes his Mighty Mouse, but loves it. And yes, I've used Logitech mice before. I like my Mighty Mouse. Oh, and I also like my wireless Apple Keyboard just fine, too. I don't need a numpad. #appleimac
As much as I'd love a Core i7 MBP to replace my late 2006 Core 2 Duo 2.33 GHz MBP, I'm not touching any laptop upgrade until they come with USB 3.0/Bluetooth 3.0. Anyone looking to upgrade their laptops really needs to be a little patient at a time like now... #corei7macbookpro
@TheSonOfKrypton: Great point...didint even think of the new USB/BT standards...i was hoping to jump on the current model w/ pricedrop once new ones are out
@TheSonOfKrypton: i know its so sad... i got a decent laptop then they go announce new stuff like usb 3.0 and bluetooth 3.0
and then they make my pain worse by saying its backward compatible... c'mon i need the BEST hardware. its rubbin' it in my face by making me use usb 3.0 hardware with my usb port #corei7macbookpro
@TheSonOfKrypton: Totally agree. USB 3.0 will be a massive update and totally worth the wait. Hell, maybe we'll even see that Light based technology that Intel is working with them on. We can wish for it at least haha. #corei7macbookpro
@TheSonOfKrypton: Yep—Quad Core, USB 3.0/BT 3.0, and mature SSD drives. Still loving my early '07 MBP—only thing that I really desire is the 7-8hr. battery life on the new unibody Macs. #corei7macbookpro
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I do wish this isn't truth, for hackintosh is doing a heaps of promotion of OSX amongst the geeks, And could be the best way to make people convert to the mac enviroment.
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If they hate hackintoshing they can always bring back the power pc lol!
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It's a bit of a letdown on the gulftown, but it could just as easily be the case that they're simply already "reserved" by Apple.
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The lower the number, the less the processing power of a chip correct? So while lighter and less power-hungry is great, aren't these also less powerful, by a long way???
If someone can explain I'd be grateful, as I clearly don't get it (still running a P4 on my desktop at home so, I'm a little bit behind I suppose) #intel
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First of all, not all GHz are equal. Back in the day when Intel and AMD were in major competition, Intel chips ran at higher Hz while AMD ran "better" Hz, meaning a lower Hz AMD machine was equivalent to a higher Intel one. This still applies today as one moves from one processor generation to the next.
Also these new i5/i7 processors can significantly over-clock or under-clock themselves in real-time according to need and energy efficiency. #intel
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The ones they will be announcing in Jan for desktops will be much faster, as fast or more than the current crops. #intel
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And since these new chips can dynamically speed up one core, while slowing down/shutting down another, for single-threaded apps that don't use multiple cores well, the overall effect is a more powerful chip.
Finally, the Core i7/i5 family uses a new architecture (design), which speeds up communications between the cores and between the cpu and memory, among other things. Just like a 4-cylinder Lotus engine beats the crap out of a 4-cylinder Chrysler... #intel
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and then they make my pain worse by saying its backward compatible... c'mon i need the BEST hardware. its rubbin' it in my face by making me use usb 3.0 hardware with my usb port #corei7macbookpro
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Still cant afford them and wont be able to for a while, but can always drool over them. #corei7macbookpro