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appletoad
10/10/09

In reply to Final Round of Psystar vs Apple Might Be Called Off
The people who transcribe for the courts type at like 400wpm using a phonetic keyboard. Good luck Rosa.
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Rosa Golijan
10/10/09

@appletoad: I didn't say I'd do it well...
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clak
10/09/09

In reply to Final Round of Psystar vs Apple Might Be Called Off
Psystar wants a summary judgment because if they go to trial and Apple wins, Apple could be awarded some pretty hefty damages, in the millions. If a judge decides it, there won't likely be any huge monetary damages.

Apple wants a summary judgement because they have the law behind them. The system is pretty much set up to protect people who own the rights to something.

If Psystar were to win, that would mean any operating system, including those inside of consoles like the Xbox or Wii or Playstation or even an OS inside a freaking camera, would be available for anyone to install on a competing product. No judge is going to let such insanity happen.

No company who bother to develop anything if they were forced to hand it over to a competitor.

Even if a judge ruled in favor of Psystar, it would likely get reversed on appeal.
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HeartBurnKid: Agent of R.O.A.C.H.
10/09/09

@clak: "If Psystar were to win, that would mean any operating system, including those inside of consoles like the Xbox or Wii or Playstation or even an OS inside a freaking camera, would be available for anyone to install on a competing product."

Only if the company sells the OS as a separate product. Which neither MS, Nintendo, Sony, or any camera manufacturer does.
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clak
10/09/09

@HeartBurnKid: Agent of R.O.A.C.H.:
There is no indication in the court documents I've seen that there be a stipulation that the OS be sold separately. So no, if Psystar were to win, that would be exactly what would happen.
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JMS3072
10/09/09

@HeartBurnKid: Agent of R.O.A.C.H.: Apple doesn't actually sell their operating system separately. What they DO do is sell UPGRADE licenses. They DON'T sell full licenses.
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HeartBurnKid: Agent of R.O.A.C.H.
10/09/09

@JMS3072: Somebody should tell Apple that. There's no stipulation in their license agreement that says you must own a previous version of Mac OS to buy any particular version of OSX.
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UnderLoK
10/10/09

@clak: Psystar is a disposable company, I doubt their worried about loosing money.
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spcomputing
10/09/09

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They should just settle this the old-fashioned way: A cage-fight between Steve Jobs and Psystar's CEO.
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tande04
10/09/09

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They're always going to ask for a summary judgement. That reaaly isn't an issue.
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Jrsy Devil's Advocate®
10/09/09

In reply to Final Round of Psystar vs Apple Might Be Called Off
"Hell, I'll volunteer to transcribe the case for everyone's entertainment"

Can you wear this dress while transcribing?
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10/09/09

@Jrsy Devil's Bright Idea®: Men, men, entertainmen...
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10/09/09

@Jrsy Devil's Bright Idea®:
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10/09/09

@(Starman) AnalysisDialysis: Copy&Paste Fail!!!
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Nathan Obbards
10/09/09

In reply to Final Round of Psystar vs Apple Might Be Called Off
I'm not sure how I feel about this. On one hand, I know that Apple is a closed system and that they market themselves as a hardware company making most their profit on the hardware, not the OS and that a competitor running their OS might steal market share from them. On the other hand, there are many people who want a Mac, who can't afford to buy one, and who don't have the know how to make a hackintosh.
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nutbastard
10/09/09

@Nathan Obbards:

... come on, it's not THAT complicated to hackintosh these days! there was a time when obscure hardware combinations were a crapshoot, but there's literally lists of setups one can buy that are pretty straightforward in hackintoshing.

personally, i dont find the Mac OS as appealing as it once was compared to Windows. it used to be cut and dry, windows was a pain and mac seemed to work without any fuss. that's no longer true. and i dont think i'll ever get over the single button mouse. too many years of working on windows machines has atrophied the mac skills i grew up with. i can no longer fix a mac when something is misconfigured. they've changed so much and well, i go on, so i'll leave it at that.
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dcdttu
07/28/09

In reply to Verizon Asks Court to Affirm Its Claim to 'America's Most Reliable 3G Network'
In every city I go to, Sprint beats out AT&T hands down. In Austin, where I live, I have dropped 1 call in 2 months with my Palm Pre. With my iPhone, I literally dropped about 1/2 my calls. HALF. AT&T is the worst carrier I've been with by far, and I've been with them all.
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MxPxRobbie
07/28/09

In reply to Verizon Asks Court to Affirm Its Claim to 'America's Most Reliable 3G Network'
reliable my arse... my VZW works at the end of my street, but not at my house. every other carrier has service at my house.
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aec007
07/28/09

@OMG! Butter!: That's called "coverage" not reliability.
When you do have a signal... is it reliable? THAT's the question.

I have ATT, and their connection drops from 3G to Edge in my office without even moving about....
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MxPxRobbie
07/28/09

@aec007:

No, my "coverage" sucks, therefore the VZW network isn't "reliable". I get a signal, i'm in a suburb of Nashville, and my reception is spotty at best at home. I can't "rely" on my VZW service to make an emergency call, or even check my voicemail. Good thing I'm moving soon.
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Lee A.
07/28/09

In reply to Verizon Asks Court to Affirm Its Claim to 'America's Most Reliable 3G Network'
Ok, how about this AT&T:
Verizon (and hell, Sprint too for that matter) is consistently faster everywhere I go. Your 3G coverage is spotty, whereas my Verizon and Sprint phones are always in EV-DO coverage. The closest AT&T 3G area for me is Chattanooga, and the speeds I'm getting there on your network are nearly identical (even worse in some cases) than I get on Sprint or Verizon.

But whatever though. You can keep arguing that you don't suck ass. It's up to you.
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Geisrud
07/28/09

@Lee A.: I'm just curious why you have phones with three different carriers? And what's with no T-Mo love?
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njso18
07/28/09

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In the future there will be no such thing as minutes for cell phones. Every single plan will be unlimited data/minutes/texting/pix/flix whatever, and you'll pay one fee every month. Guarantee it. The natural progression of cell phone technology is going to force this to happen, because in the future there will be no such thing as the RAZR.
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Don Nguyen
07/28/09

@njso18: It's the exact event that all the carriers want to delay for as long as possible. Eventually, the carriers will just be pipes for data--it's already starting with Google Voice being more popular.
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Vordreller
07/27/09

In reply to Verizon Asks Court to Affirm Its Claim to 'America's Most Reliable 3G Network'
What a waste of time of the court.
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Geisrud
07/28/09

@Vordreller: Not a waste of time for Verizon.
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Hachiken
07/27/09

In reply to Verizon Asks Court to Affirm Its Claim to 'America's Most Reliable 3G Network'
Until Verizon (my provider) gets an IPhone/Palm Pre-class device, there claims won't make a lot of difference in the market. People want the coolest stuff, from a human interface standpoint, even if there are holes in the service.

Now, an IPhone running on Verizon's network? That'll rock if/when it happens.
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Ktk
07/28/09

@Hachiken:
QFT. All the Time I see Verizon coming out with new ENV's and Chocolates and phones intended for tweens it makes me rage inside. :
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Reil: Save Stars, Save Peach
07/27/09

In reply to Verizon Asks Court to Affirm Its Claim to 'America's Most Reliable 3G Network'
Reliability is more related to consistency than speed. A turtle is reliable. Doesn't mean it's fast.
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Don Nguyen
07/27/09

@Reil: I think every sensible person agrees with your sentiments
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ReynaldoRiv
07/28/09

@Reil: I guess that means I can let the Slowskis into my home again. I thought I couldn't trust em after their stint with Comcast.
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bud-strange
07/28/09

@Reil: But this is in a court of law so it will all hinge on how reliability is defined.

Welcome to the US Justice System.
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Nevest356
07/27/09

In reply to Verizon Asks Court to Affirm Its Claim to 'America's Most Reliable 3G Network'
I've got AT&T. I very rarely ever get 5 bars. I'm suing AT&T for false advertisement.

See? I can do it too!
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eagles3 speeeedin
07/27/09

In reply to Verizon Asks Court to Affirm Its Claim to 'America's Most Reliable 3G Network'
Verizon: Hey look my penis is bigger than yours.

AT&T: Nuh uh it isnt, that's preposterous

Verizon: It's not my fault your too quick, if you know what I mean.

AT&T: Screw you Verizon you may be bigger and more reliable, but I get to screw Apple customers every-single-day.
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ecgta3
07/27/09

@Lance eagles3strong: LMAO that's true
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Dustin Hodge
07/28/09

@Lance eagles3strong: I damn near snarfed frozen custard, you bastard.
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