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    Giz Explains: Intel's Entire Confusing Armada of Chips

    Inside the Palm Pixi's Brains

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    Image of DougOLis DougOLis
    10/20/09

    In reply to Giz Explains: Intel's Entire Confusing Armada of Chips
    Although Intel doesn't market chips according to their codenames, the individual chip gets a model number that gives you an idea of how it compares, spec-wise (clock speed, cache size, etc.), to other chips in the same group.

    That's not entirely true. An Intel i7 870 (and 860 for that matter) are going to be a hell of a lot faster than an i7 920. They are different core types and that idiom holds true for each core, but the general public will see i7 920 vs. i7 870 and mistakenly think the 920 is faster.
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    Image of CaptMoose CaptMoose
    10/15/09

    In reply to Giz Explains: Intel's Entire Confusing Armada of Chips
    Just to make things more confusing, The new i7 8-series (Lynnfield) actually goes back to a P55 socket and double-channel RAM, but gets many better benchmarks scores.

    [www.guru3d.com]

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    10/15/09

    In reply to Giz Explains: Intel's Entire Confusing Armada of Chips
    Thanks for the article Matt. I'll be getting a new computer when Win7 drops and this definitely helps. #intel
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    Image of The5thElephant The5thElephant
    10/15/09

    In reply to Giz Explains: Intel's Entire Confusing Armada of Chips
    A decent Giz-Explains, but it could definitely use a chart and a clearer visual heirarchy. Also future chip technologies we should look out for? #intel
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    Image of Monty Monty
    10/15/09

    In reply to Giz Explains: Intel's Entire Confusing Armada of Chips
    Outstanding summary, Matt, but maybe you could post this sort of information a little later in the day for us West Coasters who might have head explosions reading such great material before 2 in the afternoon. Seriously - great information - thank you! #intel
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    Image of friendlynerd friendlynerd
    10/15/09

    In reply to Giz Explains: Intel's Entire Confusing Armada of Chips
    I would agree with your take on Celeron, but I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss the Pentium Dual-Core line. They're essentially Core2 chips with less L2 cache, and they run/benchmark pretty nicely for anyone not doing heavy gaming/photo editing. In an office setting they're more than sufficient. #intel
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    10/15/09

    @friendlynerd: I use a Pentium D at work and it works great most of the time. Sure I have never tried to play Crysis on it but who has time for that. #intel
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    10/15/09

    @reddingofish: Pentium D does not equal Pentium Dual-Core (confused yet??)

    The Pentium D is essentially 2 Pentium 4 chips stuffed onto one heatsink. Therefore they're ineffecient with energy and run pretty hot.

    The Pentium Dual-Core is kind of a hobbled Core2 Duo that uses little energy, runs cool, and runs rings around the Pentium D. #intel
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    Image of anexanhume anexanhume
    10/15/09

    In reply to Giz Explains: Intel's Entire Confusing Armada of Chips
    Merom and Penryn share the same branding because they are largely the same architecture. Nehalem was a full new architecture from the alternating Israeli and Oregon design teams, hence the new naming. Now, if Intel decides to keep the Core ix naming for Sandy Bridge, the shit will hit the fan. #intel
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    Image of matt buchanan matt buchanan
    10/15/09

    @anexanhume: Yeah, tick-tock cycle, which I've explained elsewhere, but thought might make things more complicated in this instance. #intel
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    10/15/09

    @matt buchanan: Sounds like a challenge to me. One which Nvidia rises to quite well. They'd rebrand their girlfriend as their sister to get a date. #intel
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    Image of Amir Oulad Amir Oulad
    10/15/09

    In reply to Giz Explains: Intel's Entire Confusing Armada of Chips
    Nice explanation I understand the differences much better now.
    Celeron/Pentuim: run
    Core3i: One night stand
    Core7i/5i: HAve sex with it

    BTW I love the new layout! #intel
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    Image of Mike Zuniga: That was Unexpected Mike Zuniga: That was Unexpected
    09/14/09

    In reply to Inside the Palm Pixi's Brains
    I forget, you have to have a data plain to use either of the two phones, right?
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    Image of musicmonkey34 musicmonkey34
    09/14/09

    @Mike Zuniga: That was Unexpected: yup.
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    Image of Mike Zuniga: That was Unexpected Mike Zuniga: That was Unexpected
    09/14/09

    @musicmonkey34: Damn, I was planning on downgrading my phone before I went off to a dinky college town to finish my bachelor's in graphic design, and the pixie seemed to fit the bill for what I'm keeping on the plan (talking, texting). Oh well...
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    Image of Bawb - The One, The Only, The Builder Bawb - The One, The Only, The Builder
    09/14/09

    In reply to Inside the Palm Pixi's Brains

    It's Pixie! It's Pixie!
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    Image of Mike Zuniga: That was Unexpected Mike Zuniga: That was Unexpected
    09/14/09

    @Bawb - The One, The Only, The Builder: THIS HOW WE GET OUR KICKIES
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    Image of ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNO-TOAD ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNO-TOAD
    09/08/09

    In reply to Intel Lynnfield Core i5 and i7 Processors: Nehalem Superpowers Cheaper Than Ever
    Don't say that... I just bought a Q9400 last month
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    Image of reddingofish reddingofish
    09/08/09

    In reply to Intel Lynnfield Core i5 and i7 Processors: Nehalem Superpowers Cheaper Than Ever
    When are the i9s coming out?
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    09/08/09

    In reply to Intel Lynnfield Core i5 and i7 Processors: Nehalem Superpowers Cheaper Than Ever
    Aww, I was looking forward to my pseudo 8 core chips. Even if they did "cheat" to do it.
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    Image of Nanan00 Nanan00
    09/08/09

    In reply to Intel Lynnfield Core i5 and i7 Processors: Nehalem Superpowers Cheaper Than Ever
    So what is the point of getting an i7 socket MB then not getting an i7 chip with one of the main distinguishing features of the triple channel memory? Why not just save yourself a few hundred dollars and get an i5?
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    Image of wagnerrp wagnerrp
    09/08/09

    @Nanan00: You're missing the point. These two channel i7s use the LGA1156 socket. That's right, Intel has confused the entire market by making i7 chips on two separate sockets.
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    09/08/09

    @wagnerrp: Mind. Blown.
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    Image of met2art met2art
    09/08/09

    @Nanan00: While triple-channel memory is a distinguishing feature of the Nehalem architecture, it's not the sole distinguishing feature. There are numerous other benefits and overall speed increases, even with standard dual channel memory. With the decreased cost but improved power over prior architectures, dual-channel Nehalem may make a nice sweet-spot for gamers on a budget who want to remain faithful to Intel. The suggestion of i5 is spurious, because it doesn't support hyperthreading, but the i7 does. This may signal that i5 is on the outs, eventually.
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    09/08/09

    @met2art: ?? Where have you seen other benefits with dual channel? If anything, Lynnfield is better because of a less restrained turbo mode. Did you see the tests, and the numerous previews before? This review is not much of a surprise. Triple channel and the QPI is what gives socket 1366 its potential advantage, though as Anand says this potential will be better served with upcoming 6- and 8-core chips. Then the differentiation will be obvious.
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    09/08/09

    @andyo: Did I say dual-channel was a benefit? I don't recall that. Note: "even with dual channel memory" is a key part of the comment. Hyperthreading and other advancement sin the i7 architecture, over i5, make some compelling points, if the pricepoint is equivalent to i5. Although, mileage may vary, and it will depend greatly upon the mobo as well.
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    09/09/09

    @met2art: There's been some confusion. When you said "Nehalem architecture", I now see you were including both Bloomfield and Lynnfield and comparing them to previous architectures (like Core). But the OP was confused about differences between sockets 1366 and 1156, so I thought you were comparing between those. Basically his question was why have an i7 on 1156, if you can't take advantage of triple channel. The reason is hyper threading, pretty much, but really the answer is that these Lynnfield i7's are much more similar to the i5 than to the Bloomfield i7's.
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    Image of DudleyJibsheet DudleyJibsheet
    08/27/09

    In reply to Giz Explains: Snow Leopard's Grand Central Dispatch
    this is very informative -- thank you!

    looks like the name 'snow leopard' is a good fit -- rare and fast.

    there's a good article on the ever-feline mac os names over here: http://onthebutton.wordpress.com/2009/08/26/apple-snow-leopard/ worth a read.
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