I almost got suspended from school for posting a file to a shared folder within the network. Apparently I had hacked the system and made a copy of the file on every computer in the school, severely slowing the network. It took almost an hour to explain that there was only one copy, that copy and paste does not constitute hacking.
@eagles3_Wants NASA money to afford college.: In college, I had some kids prank my phone repeatedly with the "Donald Duck Blow Job" sound clip. So I emailed it back to them. The asst. Dean O' Discipline printed out the sound file, and had a meeting in her office w/me with the pile of paper and kept asking why I sent them pages of gibberish. Apparently she opened the wav file as a text document or something, and printed out the raw data. Ever try to explain encoding formats to an idiot?
So how was he gaining access to the computer without consent? It was a work computer, so therefore by the laws of Ohio, everyone else there was hacking. How is that considered hacking, I would call it misuse of the computer, but hacking? No. Who pressed charges? I could see how his boss could fire him, but he wasn't doing anything illegal. That is so dumb.
I was at a public library a few years ago, and the homepage for the library system was down. so instead of checking if the rest of the internet was working, they put "out of order" signs on all 4 w2orkstations. Being curious I lifted up the paper and started to use the computer after I discovered only the homepage was down. I then got verbally accosted by an angry librarian who accused me of "hacking" the computers and threatened to call security.
holy crap. he didn't hack shit. all horndog did was point his browser at friend finder and look at boobies. i really hope they can appeal this and it goes to the ACLU because it makes me furious hearing an ignorant judicial system try to frackin enforce morality through the courts. dude literally didn't break a single law.
@Texas, Texas yee haw_Nick: No, but he broke a rule or two. Companies have a right to decide how their property. I think they went a bit overboard in this case, but that's their right.
I don't think he should have been convicted of a crime, esp. not hacking, but I wouldn't be surprised if he had been reprimanded or fired from his job.
BTW, Harrison, you might want to reconsider your user name. From now on, Facebookers DO need approval prior to having their comments published. Check the link indicated to read about this historic Gizmodo policy change.
@fleebailey33: I certainly hope so as I am quickly becoming one of them! In fact, I think I officially become old in like 5 minutes or something like that, hard to tell. Memory problems you know. Yup.
Could this possibly be part of the reason why many newer ATM's have card slots that are designed in a big translucent piece? If anything was crammed into it, it'd be easier to detect and would obstruct the view of the flashing lights inside, likely making it noticeably darker than the other slots. I could be wrong, but it seems to make some sense.
@kaubuchon: You would think they would give you a bit more. Maybe wave some fees for a year or something.
You just saved you a world of hurt, embarrassment, having to supply fraud protection for anyone that could have used the ATM, the trust of their customers, etc. And not even a calendar?
@CaptCaveman: Why do people believe they deserve a reward for simply doing what is right? Is it not enough to just DO WHAT IS RIGHT?
"The trust of their customers?" Anyone with a pulse knows these things can happen, and not every bad thing in life is preventable. I think my trust would have been broken if they DID give this guy a reward for just doing the right thing.
@theirishcreme: apply that same logic to the bank that overcharges you fees and se how that works out for you. Very few people ESPECIALLY corporations and banks do the RIGHT thng
That is mainly the reason why we WALK INTO the bank, ATM machines are loaded with bugs. I've had $40 stolen in a ATM machine, it told me "please take the cash" and nothing came out, ARGH!
@Fractal the Meek: Yeah, but if the existing card slot is in the frame of the security cam, it would be pathetically easy to just watch the tape and look for the user that's there when the skimmer "magically" appears...
Nothing...
Nothing...
Bingo!
If the existing card slot isn't in the frame then no "magical" skills would even be necessary...
@Sesheron: Some are pretty advanced and have mini cameras to take pictures of the pin as you type. Big problem here in london, you can buy your own for £2000 here [www.ukclassifieds.co.uk]
@auricom: You might have actually rickrolled me if the page it redirected to hadn't been so retardedly slow to load (with the final destination plainly visible in the status bar)...
@zunealltheway: The black stripe on the back of a credit/debit card contains a magnetic copy of pretty much everything that's stamped through the front of the card, plus your PIN and any other information that might be needed at the point of purchase (except your signature and driver's license). A card skimmer simply reads all the data from that stripe and stores it. Taking that, you can either make a fake card or punch in all the data for online transactions.
The whole process of skimming a card goes really quickly (about as fast as it takes to swipe your own card through a reader). My mom showed me an article about the dangers of using debit cards that included a story of someone who paid for a meal at a sit-down restaurant with one, and in the time it took the waitress to walk the card to the register, run the transaction, and walk it back to the customer, the data was skimmed and suddenly their bank account was getting fraudulent charges.
@Purple Dave: I'm relatively certain your PIN isn't a part of the data stored on the strip. I can change my PIN online, over the phone, or at an ATM with a "push in, pull out" reader... all making it pretty clear the PIN isn't stored on the strip, since these methods do not change the magnetic data on the strip.
@theirishcreme: Maybe it depends on the card, but I've been told by one financial institution that they couldn't change the PIN on a debit card because they didn't have the proper equipment to do so on-site. You get whatever random PIN the card ships with, and you better hope you can remember it. If it's as simple as changing the number in some far off database, there wouldn't be any problem like you'd get if the data on the stripe actually needed to be changed.
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I'm guessing since the owner didn't say he could view porn, that's beyond the scope of the permission he was given.
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"You looked at porn, now go to PRISON with people who might kill/rape you or both."
The prosecuting lawyers need to take that whole system of Tubes and shove 'em deep with nary a kiss!
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I don't think he should have been convicted of a crime, esp. not hacking, but I wouldn't be surprised if he had been reprimanded or fired from his job.
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"I looked at porn."
"Bend over."
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BTW, Harrison, you might want to reconsider your user name. From now on, Facebookers DO need approval prior to having their comments published. Check the link indicated to read about this historic Gizmodo policy change.
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there will always be old people!
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So...what were we talking about?
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You just saved you a world of hurt, embarrassment, having to supply fraud protection for anyone that could have used the ATM, the trust of their customers, etc. And not even a calendar?
Did the letter come postage due?
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"The trust of their customers?" Anyone with a pulse knows these things can happen, and not every bad thing in life is preventable. I think my trust would have been broken if they DID give this guy a reward for just doing the right thing.
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::insert movie quote:: "here's an idea, it's called a mask"
but in all honesty, walk in from side of the building, duck down, camera has limited field of view, slap it on, and walk away.
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Nothing...
Nothing...
Bingo!
If the existing card slot isn't in the frame then no "magical" skills would even be necessary...
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Duct. T
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speaking of duck roll tapes .. here's an explanation about how they manufacture them..
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You could have at least tried to figure it out yourself...
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The black stripe on the back of a credit/debit card contains a magnetic copy of pretty much everything that's stamped through the front of the card, plus your PIN and any other information that might be needed at the point of purchase (except your signature and driver's license). A card skimmer simply reads all the data from that stripe and stores it. Taking that, you can either make a fake card or punch in all the data for online transactions.
The whole process of skimming a card goes really quickly (about as fast as it takes to swipe your own card through a reader). My mom showed me an article about the dangers of using debit cards that included a story of someone who paid for a meal at a sit-down restaurant with one, and in the time it took the waitress to walk the card to the register, run the transaction, and walk it back to the customer, the data was skimmed and suddenly their bank account was getting fraudulent charges.
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I'm open to correction, however.
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Maybe it depends on the card, but I've been told by one financial institution that they couldn't change the PIN on a debit card because they didn't have the proper equipment to do so on-site. You get whatever random PIN the card ships with, and you better hope you can remember it. If it's as simple as changing the number in some far off database, there wouldn't be any problem like you'd get if the data on the stripe actually needed to be changed.
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I've had it both ways. My last bank sent me a card with a preset PIN, but I could take it in and change it at the local branch.