I'm so glad that they had Wyatt do this report because his reaction caused the guy to instantly realize the absurdity of his statement.
I think many entreprenuers like the pull my finger developer fail to realize that several other people have the same epiphany as them all it is a matter of skill, luck, planning, and timing that can lead to their success. And no matter what industry your in someone will eventually duplicate and reimagine your product or ideas to make money.
I think PullMyFinger is selling itself short. Not only is it the Jackie Robinson of iPhone apps, but the Jesus Christ, the Polish Jew, and the first upright walking Cro-magnon of the iPhone app store.
If your going to paint yourself pretty, go all out man, go all out.
This kind of talk has to be a corollary (sp?) of Godwin. At some point, a talking ass will eventually make an outlandish comparison of their trivial problem to that of a major event.
Saw this last night, laughed my ass off. I love how people always try to portray themselves in the greatest light, because they can obviously do no wrong. It always fascinates me how people can be so oblivious to their own reality.
I once heard a black man say that Jackie Robinson did more harm than good. He said that once JR crossed over, the Negro Leagues slowly faded away and thousands of players were left with out jobs. He said that it was better when the N.L. existed cause they employed so many African Americans. I thought that was an interesting point.
@LEWD98: Interesting idea, yes, but Jackie Robinson playing in the Majors meant so much more for advancing civil rights. I imagine that black athletes of the day were inspired by Robinson, not begrudging his success.
@LEWD98: It is an interesting point. Nothing comes free - in some way, someone is going to suffer for progress. It's sad that they lost their jobs, but that opened the door for many African-Americans to play - and be accepted - at the highest level of baseball.
Yup, he did a big thing with the iPhone... Ah, I see the next comment thread covers this. I am a dollar short and a day late. Should I just hit "x" and cancel this redundancy, or leave it in all its splendor?
After Bezos left it there, and Jon got to use it and realized that he's got the NY Times delivered wirelessly every morning, and all the books that he has to read for interviewing guests fit right on there, I wouldn't be surprised if we see Jon come out in a few days saying that he gave the Kindle short shrift.
I am glad to see someone question the Kindle. I too am a gadget nerd and buy everything but I still can't figure out why I should use a Kindle to read my mass market paperbacks. I still feel that is the worst market for the Kindle. If it had a robust college textbook selection or comic manga viewer I would be all over it.
Nope, I have to drag around some huge $350 dollar gadget that I can't do anything with except read books/RSS. I have to worry about battery charges, weather, damage, air port screenings, etc.
@Eric Rhoads: "drag around some huge gadget" - have you ever seen an ebook reader? They're far smaller than paperback books overall - about the same dimensions as a trade paperback but at about 1/5th the thickness.
Are you reading the book to absorb the information contained within or are you doing it so that other people will think you look cool?
I use an E-reader(the sony model) and I haven't enjoyed any tech device more than it.
Why is it so great?
It is smaller and lighter than any book you can buy, but it stores ALL of my books. It is the same reason the ipod is more popular than the walkman.
We have vinyl-freaks promoting the "loss of magic" with the new mp3-era. Now we have paper-freaks bemoaning the loss of the printed book?
Where are all of the giant-binder freaks complaining about the invention of the computerized spreadsheet? How about the drafting-board freaks who think Autocad takes all of the magic out of hours of tedious drawing?
The question should be simple...
Does this device make it easier and more convenient to engage in a particular activity?
If YES, then it is a good device
If NO, then the device sucks.
e-ink readers definitely make reading a lot of books more convenient....so GREAT DEVICE!!!!
@LemuelGadgeteer: See, I think the answer to "does an e-book reader make reading easier" is a resounding "no." I don't think I've ever had the need to carry more than two books around with me, and can the battery on your paperback ever die on you?
Buttons will hold your cuffs closed just as well, if not better, than cuff links. But there is an intangible aspect to links. It's not just about the look. There is a deliberateness to links. It's almost like a ritual.
Similarly, listening to a record involves ritual. The blowing on the record. Lining up the hole. Gently lowering the tone arm. The first hiss and pop.
Or making a mixtape. Collect your tapes. Write down the songs. Tally up the runtime. Sitting by the player, ready to hit pause.
There's a deliberateness to turning a paper page. Also, there's the "trophy" aspect of read books.
@LemuelGadgeteer: Put that ebook reader in the back pocket of your jeans, and have a seat.
I don't care if my paperback make me look cool but I sure as hell appreciate the fact that I can read it after I sit on it.
Ans when I finish I'll leave it in the seat pocket of the plane as an unexpected gift for someone else. It was such a surprise that got me to read Starship Troopers (after seeing that horrible movie).
I have been returning the favor in kind ever since.
@John Mahoney: Books are data storage devices. It's one thing to fetishise the format/interface of your choice, but to claim that the differences don't offer "any benefit at all" is just, well, stupid.
The batteries on pencils don't die, but I bet you didn't write your article with one. What's the weight/storage volume/environmental impact of the production and distribution of a complete set of "The Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire" in the printed format of you choice, versus the weight/storage volume/environmental impact of the production and distribution of the same work via Kindle. You might not prefer the format, but if you don't see any advantage to it, then maybe tech writing's not your thing.
@junyo: Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. So you're saying Kindle is to Book as Web Page is to Pencil?
When's the last time you were able to read more of the Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire in one sitting than you could physically carry on your person?
@OMG! Ponies!: I'm amazed at the level of emotional discourse generated by devices as simple as an e-book reader. For some people it's a tremendously funcitonal device that lets them carry more reading material than would normally be possible. The readability of the screen makes it less of a strain than with a laptop monitor. The cost is still high, but then, MP3 players cost a small fortune when they were first introduced and weren't exactly brimming with features either.
It's a burgeoning market that will take time to find specific niches and development its own unique methods of improving or streamlining content distribution. For some people, who don't read as voraciously, or as often, it's obviously a less than stellar concept, and probably seems rather silly. For myself, who reads upwards of 10 paperbacks per month, and is often flipping through reference books (astronomy, biology, Roman history, etc, etc) it would allow me to have numerous things to read without having to decide which two or three books I'd like to bring along (if any, space permitting).
While the cost is still too high, for me, I applaud the concept, just as I applauded the concept of MP3 players long before I considered one affordable for myself. Will I ditch my collection of hundreds and hundreds of books? Absolutely not. I'll still buy hardcovers, coffee table books and the occasional paperback. Just as I still sometimes buy a physical CD because I enjoy having it in my car, or for making my own MP3s, even when I've bought a track or two via on-line stores.
In a world where information can be, and often is, available nearly everywhere, from multiple sources both physical and digital, I think the option to utilize both is great.
I think it's amusing that everyone is casting aspersions on e-readers, and Bezos specifically, for this product. It's not much different than Stve Jobs' promotion of the iPod at a time when digital music was stilla somewhat radical concept. That device was pretty freakin' expensive too.
I'm not comparing Bezos to Jobs, but rather that first gen devices that challenge traditional media distribution and physicality are often criticized unfairly based on personal bias. Don't get so personally and emotionally involved. Are these people scared someone is going to steal their books away? Or that books will suddenly stop being printed?
@jchasse: Don't be a dipshit. Do you sit on your iPod or your phone?
Do you leave your laptop laying around? Well then why the fuck would you sit on an e-reader, or leave it somewhere? Just becaus eyou are a retard doesn't mean the device is impractical for others.
In all fairness, Letterman had Bill Gates on years ago (around 2003). Bill Gates touted all the wonderful things a computer could be used for, including music. To illustrate, he showed Letterman an I-pod, saying that you could use an I-pod on Windows to carry all your music around with you.
Letterman's response: "That's great. Now I can have all my music with me and still listen to the same crappy 5 songs over and over." That response perfectly summed up one view of the I-pod.
Gates also demonstrated XP's ability to use a CD-ROM drive to toast waffles.
@Hello Mister Walrus: Yes. Gates was using the I-pod to sell computers in general. Of course, the I-pod has been used by everyone and their mother to promote products as "high tech". The Ford Fusion comes to mind.
Apple's only real competitor for mp3 players was Creative, who took the bold step of not advertising their players at all except for in PC Magazine. And Sony decided that the future of the Walkman brand was in MiniDisc. Two companies that not only shot themselves in the foot, but then proceeded to hack off their legs.
I still don't know why Sony didn't put out an mp3 player in 2004. It would have coincided with the 25th anniversary of the Walkman. The ad copy writes itself:
Walkman: The First Name In Music.
History is littered with the corpses of lost opportunity.
Does anyone else find it annoying that Jon Stewart's on set audience laughs and literally everything? The guy sometimes just completely goes silent and stares at the crowed for like 10 seconds, and they all burst out laughing.
Wtf? I mean don't get me wrong, the guy's funny and all, but man his crowd seems a little dumb. A lot of the time he makes political jokes and it takes them a good 5-10 seconds to start laughing, and even then I'm not sure they fully understand his joke.
lol this is like when I found out that America's Funniest Home Videos actually PAID people to be in the audience and laugh. I knew people couldn't seriously find Bob Saget and the other guy on AFV that funny.
@SJRNWT: Having been to a taping, I can tell you that a) everyone at the show, including Jon, is aware of this phenomenon, and b) they're not always thrilled about it. Even worse is when the audience boos a guest and Jon gets all frustrated because he's trying to have an intelligent conversation but he can't because the audience is acting like they're at a WWE taping.
hmmm... how much for chortling, that's about all I can muster. Now, if I could just get paid for hem and hawing... I'm grade a black belt in that discipline.
07/22/09
I think many entreprenuers like the pull my finger developer fail to realize that several other people have the same epiphany as them all it is a matter of skill, luck, planning, and timing that can lead to their success. And no matter what industry your in someone will eventually duplicate and reimagine your product or ideas to make money.
07/22/09
If your going to paint yourself pretty, go all out man, go all out.
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yeah i'm not sure how this meshes with his hatred of books.
maybe when they send him one he'll smash it...
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Yup, he did a big thing with the iPhone... Ah, I see the next comment thread covers this. I am a dollar short and a day late. Should I just hit "x" and cancel this redundancy, or leave it in all its splendor?
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Nope, I have to drag around some huge $350 dollar gadget that I can't do anything with except read books/RSS. I have to worry about battery charges, weather, damage, air port screenings, etc.
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Are you reading the book to absorb the information contained within or are you doing it so that other people will think you look cool?
I use an E-reader(the sony model) and I haven't enjoyed any tech device more than it.
Why is it so great?
It is smaller and lighter than any book you can buy, but it stores ALL of my books. It is the same reason the ipod is more popular than the walkman.
We have vinyl-freaks promoting the "loss of magic" with the new mp3-era. Now we have paper-freaks bemoaning the loss of the printed book?
Where are all of the giant-binder freaks complaining about the invention of the computerized spreadsheet? How about the drafting-board freaks who think Autocad takes all of the magic out of hours of tedious drawing?
The question should be simple...
Does this device make it easier and more convenient to engage in a particular activity?
If YES, then it is a good device
If NO, then the device sucks.
e-ink readers definitely make reading a lot of books more convenient....so GREAT DEVICE!!!!
02/24/09
02/24/09
Buttons will hold your cuffs closed just as well, if not better, than cuff links. But there is an intangible aspect to links. It's not just about the look. There is a deliberateness to links. It's almost like a ritual.
Similarly, listening to a record involves ritual. The blowing on the record. Lining up the hole. Gently lowering the tone arm. The first hiss and pop.
Or making a mixtape. Collect your tapes. Write down the songs. Tally up the runtime. Sitting by the player, ready to hit pause.
There's a deliberateness to turning a paper page. Also, there's the "trophy" aspect of read books.
02/24/09
I don't care if my paperback make me look cool but I sure as hell appreciate the fact that I can read it after I sit on it.
Ans when I finish I'll leave it in the seat pocket of the plane as an unexpected gift for someone else. It was such a surprise that got me to read Starship Troopers (after seeing that horrible movie).
I have been returning the favor in kind ever since.
02/24/09
The batteries on pencils don't die, but I bet you didn't write your article with one. What's the weight/storage volume/environmental impact of the production and distribution of a complete set of "The Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire" in the printed format of you choice, versus the weight/storage volume/environmental impact of the production and distribution of the same work via Kindle. You might not prefer the format, but if you don't see any advantage to it, then maybe tech writing's not your thing.
02/24/09
When's the last time you were able to read more of the Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire in one sitting than you could physically carry on your person?
02/24/09
It's a burgeoning market that will take time to find specific niches and development its own unique methods of improving or streamlining content distribution. For some people, who don't read as voraciously, or as often, it's obviously a less than stellar concept, and probably seems rather silly. For myself, who reads upwards of 10 paperbacks per month, and is often flipping through reference books (astronomy, biology, Roman history, etc, etc) it would allow me to have numerous things to read without having to decide which two or three books I'd like to bring along (if any, space permitting).
While the cost is still too high, for me, I applaud the concept, just as I applauded the concept of MP3 players long before I considered one affordable for myself. Will I ditch my collection of hundreds and hundreds of books? Absolutely not. I'll still buy hardcovers, coffee table books and the occasional paperback. Just as I still sometimes buy a physical CD because I enjoy having it in my car, or for making my own MP3s, even when I've bought a track or two via on-line stores.
In a world where information can be, and often is, available nearly everywhere, from multiple sources both physical and digital, I think the option to utilize both is great.
I think it's amusing that everyone is casting aspersions on e-readers, and Bezos specifically, for this product. It's not much different than Stve Jobs' promotion of the iPod at a time when digital music was stilla somewhat radical concept. That device was pretty freakin' expensive too.
I'm not comparing Bezos to Jobs, but rather that first gen devices that challenge traditional media distribution and physicality are often criticized unfairly based on personal bias. Don't get so personally and emotionally involved. Are these people scared someone is going to steal their books away? Or that books will suddenly stop being printed?
02/24/09
Do you leave your laptop laying around? Well then why the fuck would you sit on an e-reader, or leave it somewhere? Just becaus eyou are a retard doesn't mean the device is impractical for others.
02/24/09
Bravo!
02/24/09
Dollar for dollar, the At-A-Glance Daily Diary (it's red and measures about 5 x 8.5 x 2) is one of the best planners you can get.
It doesn't crash, it's rugged, involves an instinctive UI, and will store your data for as long as you need it to.
02/24/09
How about Trollop of the fucking year. I don't screw around.
02/24/09
Letterman's response: "That's great. Now I can have all my music with me and still listen to the same crappy 5 songs over and over." That response perfectly summed up one view of the I-pod.
Gates also demonstrated XP's ability to use a CD-ROM drive to toast waffles.
02/24/09
02/24/09
Apple's only real competitor for mp3 players was Creative, who took the bold step of not advertising their players at all except for in PC Magazine. And Sony decided that the future of the Walkman brand was in MiniDisc. Two companies that not only shot themselves in the foot, but then proceeded to hack off their legs.
I still don't know why Sony didn't put out an mp3 player in 2004. It would have coincided with the 25th anniversary of the Walkman. The ad copy writes itself:
Walkman: The First Name In Music.
History is littered with the corpses of lost opportunity.
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"iPod", it really isn't that difficult to get right.
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Wtf? I mean don't get me wrong, the guy's funny and all, but man his crowd seems a little dumb. A lot of the time he makes political jokes and it takes them a good 5-10 seconds to start laughing, and even then I'm not sure they fully understand his joke.
// not trying to troll, just had to say that lol
02/24/09
02/24/09
lol this is like when I found out that America's Funniest Home Videos actually PAID people to be in the audience and laugh. I knew people couldn't seriously find Bob Saget and the other guy on AFV that funny.
02/24/09
It's probably the fact that the audience is filled with folks who are major fans! Fans who are ticked to be there and to hear anything he has to say.
Pretty normal really.
Look at any live audience show.
The people making the show actually WANT that.
I like the show but I don't go out of my way to catch it, though he does seem spot on regarding many things and is quite funny.
02/24/09
02/24/09
*practices laughing* hahaha...bwahaha...phwahahah...
hmmm... how much for chortling, that's about all I can muster. Now, if I could just get paid for hem and hawing... I'm grade a black belt in that discipline.