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Kaiser-Machead
04/10/09

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Fuck this, and the people that do it. I have no concerns over graffiti itself, but I most certainly don't condone arson.
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Lite: hates Illinois Nazis
04/10/09

@Kaiser-Machead: I have concerns over graffiti as it is typically an indication that worse elements are soon to follow. As the "look" of a neighborhood deteriorates, so does the opinion of others of it. They begin to avoid it, and seedier types move in.

I'm not saying it causes these things, but it's a good indicator that something needs to be done to shore up the neighborhood to keep it from spiraling downward.
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Kaiser-Machead
04/10/09

@Lite: Cycle now entering the game grid: My concerns over graffiti are minor by comparison, so in most cases I just couldn't care less. While I've seen some examples that are quite beautiful, of course I'm constantly disgusted by the new batch of mindless scribble that litters the sides of buildings, beams on bridges and windows of subway trains.

However, for the most part, I've grown largely indifferent to this type of thing. I suppose it's because it's something that's been commonplace where I live since the day I was born.
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sicknick
04/10/09

@Lite: Cycle now entering the game grid: It's a fine line.

Honestly, I'd rather look at tags all down the highway then blank, gray cement.

Worse is even the off color paint they put over the stuff.
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Lite: hates Illinois Nazis
04/10/09

@sicknick: I appreciate artwork graffiti. I do not appreciate the thousands of personal logos I see everywhere by talentless morons with a paint marker.
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bosskev
04/10/09

@Lite: Cycle now entering the game grid: Word
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hodayathink wants WWFRD back!
04/10/09

@Lite: Cycle now entering the game grid: +1
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damnelantra™
04/10/09

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hmmm... this or flaming dookie in a bag?
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weatherman
04/10/09

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I think I'm going the other way on this; graffiti with paint ranges from mild annoyance to high art. Graffiti with flaming paint or lighter fluid is just arson.
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sojrner
04/10/09

@weatherman: I understand the point your trying to make, but or those that have to expend time and money to cover up graffiti, tagging is never anything less than infuriating. And, unless its tagging on your own property or with permission, it is never "art." Calling it such only encourages these losers who have nothing better to do than destroy their own neighborhoods.

I only hope that any taggers caught doing this do in fact get prosecuted for arson as opposed to the slap-on-the-wrist misdemeanor charge they get now.
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weatherman
04/10/09

@sojrner: well I could have spelled it out - it's a minor annoyance, a major pain, a minor crime, low-level property destruction or high art (and there are probably some gradations in there I didn't speak to) but still it's graffiti... I get what you're saying though.
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GitEmSteveDave_HurtHisKnee
04/10/09

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UH, Simpsons did it already? [en.wikipedia.org]
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bosskev
04/10/09

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If ever I were to run for public office, it would be on a platform of "Bring Back Cruel and Unusual Punishment!". Caught tagging? We cut off your hand. Caught firetagging? We burn off your hand...slowly.

And I'm only being half-facetious.
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bosskev
04/10/09

@bosskev: Nah, strike that--I'm not being facetious at all. I am SO sick of asswipes who are so disrespectful of the world and people around them that they choose to squirt their little "Look at me! I'm an asswipe nobody!" tag juices all over other people's property without permission. It disgusts me. It infuriates me. I have zero tolerance for it.

/grumpy soapbox
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DrumArtist23 - Awesomephile
04/10/09

@bosskev: *offers helping hand to bosskev as he steps down from said soapbox*
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Bo Shonka
04/10/09

@DrumArtist23 - Hardware Software Treeware:

Can I borrow that soapbox? I've prepared a speech about expression, art, perception and freedom.
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Lite: hates Illinois Nazis
04/10/09

@Bo Shonka: No. Because it isn't expression, art, perception, of freedom if you're damaging someone else's property in the process.

Unless you think it's perfectly OK for me to light you on fire as a piece of performance art.
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