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Nick
06/06/09

In reply to Obama Administration Adds Renowned Hacker to Homeland Security Advisory Council
ps
you guys couldn't find another picture of Moss without a big banner in the back that read "Black"? i mean i know this administration is a milestone in history, but c'mon Giz.
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jennyfur
06/06/09

@Nick: What the hell man, the picture was taken at the Black Hat conference. As in Black Hat hackers. It has nothing to do with race at all, geez. Don't go bashing Giz for using a perfectly legitimate image because you read something into it that wasn't there. And if you check on Google images, that is one of the best looking pictures of the guy.

I really hope you were joking.
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Nick
06/06/09

@jennyfur: i think you spelled your name wrong.
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--Core--
06/06/09

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...Well it's a smart move I suppose. But at the same time it bothers me, although I am not sure why.. just can't explain this funny feeling.
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Nick
06/06/09

@--Core--: that's a talk you should have with your parents. just know it's prefectly normal and everybody goes through these changes with their bodies around your age.
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DeadWriter
06/06/09

In reply to Obama Administration Adds Renowned Hacker to Homeland Security Advisory Council
In a surprise announcement, the Republican National Committee has revealed it is bankrupt.

A spokesman said they had plenty of money in their accounts last week but today they just don't know where the money has gone.

But not everybody's going begging.

Amnesty International, Greenpeace and the United Negro College Fund announced record earnings this week due mostly to large, anonymous donations.
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92BuickLeSabre
06/06/09

@DeadWriter: Get outta my dreams!
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badhatharry
06/06/09

@92BuickLeSabre: Get into my car!
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Nick
06/06/09

In reply to Obama Administration Adds Renowned Hacker to Homeland Security Advisory Council
i didn't know the whitehouse had a basement. i hope he likes his new "office."
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tsatsut
06/06/09

In reply to Obama Administration Adds Renowned Hacker to Homeland Security Advisory Council
more like skynet pawns haha way to go Barry..feel like da whole adminstration is mobbed up...well i'mma enjoy this fuckery in da media later.
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92BuickLeSabre
06/06/09

@tsatsut: 1 + Banana = Air Conditioner
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92BuickLeSabre
06/06/09

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This is totally going to end just like Die Hard 4.
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Will Barrueto
05/15/09

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This is retarded advice. Not sure why Giz is promoting this.
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Nick
05/15/09

@Will Barrueto: they're reporting not promoting
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BlueGeek
05/15/09

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"peace officer"? Are we living in a bad sci-fi movie, now?
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GitEmSteveDave_DefinesTurgid
05/15/09

@BlueGeek: I come in Peace.
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DustyButt™
05/15/09

@DistortedViewListener_GitEmSte...: *** Ahnold Schwarzenegger Voice ***

You'll leave in pieces...

*rat tat tat tat tat!*
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GitEmSteveDave_DefinesTurgid
05/15/09

@DustyButt: It was Dolph. Arnold might have been better....
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nystreetfilms
05/15/09

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went to the site...

the link is 404'd... gone... not found.... taken down...

404'd....

hope he didnt get 404'd as well. He's been "disappeared".
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GitEmSteveDave_DefinesTurgid
05/15/09

@nystreetfilms: NWO. They stole his biometric data and were tracking him w/the surveillance blimps!
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paragrab
05/15/09

@DistortedViewListener_GitEmSte...: It was the chemtrails! They're really nanobot trackers and data relays.
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GitEmSteveDave_DefinesTurgid
05/15/09

@paragrab: No, they are weather modification now. Don't you keep up on what they are this week?
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rbf2000
05/15/09

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This isn't a US document. It's not a forgery of anything, it's not trying to get you into a secure building, there's no harm in showing one of these. It would be the equivalent of showing your college ID to a cop. Although, I would probably take off the DHS header just to be safe...
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OMG! Ponies!
05/15/09

@rbf2000: Do you really want to test your theory out? Not worth it.

There are better ways to make a point. Stay as far on the side of angels where the law is concerned and take diligent notes of the encounter. If you are unfairly stopped by an official - be it a police officer or a federal agent of some kind - document all identifying data. When the encounter is over, contact your local ACLU.

The best way to fight the system is from within. Use the tools of the establishment. It is long and wearying but it produces lasting results.
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GitEmSteveDave_DefinesTurgid
05/15/09

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Just because you can, doesn't mean you should. Proving a point and taking a stand are things better handled by people who are used to being "jerks", like Michael Moore, Arnold Diaz, etc... They have lawyers on retainer and camera crews.
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OMG! Ponies!
05/15/09

In reply to Fake DHS License Helps You Get Around Stupid Public Photography Bans
I would not use this. It just seems to be more trouble than it's worth.

And in NYC, here are the rules to live by straight from NYC.gov.

[www.nyc.gov]

A guiding principle is always "is it worth it?" You might be in the right legally and morally. If, like the gentleman photographing the ATM, you can even turn it to your advantage, yes, it may be worth it. But dummying up phony identification documents tends to run afoul of the law.

Don't do it.
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Nick
05/15/09

@OMG! Ponies!: i remember a kid in college that made perfect fake ids from his dorm. several of my buddies got one. the crappy thing is he was doing this before and after 9/11, but didn't get caught till after. needless to say they came after him with all of hell's fury and charged hime with over 100 federal counts which i can't remember the name. it also didn't help his case he wasn't exactly white. i don't know what happend to the poor sap, but i was left without a fake and that just chaps my back side.
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Diddle my Skittles
05/15/09

@OMG! Ponies!: Here in Portland, they have no tri-pod laws in certain parts of the city. Also, taking photos of government buildings or locations within a block's distance of a government building is a no no as well. I'm part of a photography group on Flickr, and they have war stories of taking pictures of certain buildings. Essentially, most buildings have dome-cameras mounted all around them. If security catches you shooting the site, an officer will come out, take down your standard information, and have you delete all of the pictures. The deleting of the pictures I understand, but I wonder what becomes of the information they collected. Do I go on a no fly list, or what?

It sucks, because some of the best buildings in Portland are the city hall and the courthouse.
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Jestermeister
05/15/09

@OMG! Ponies!: I totally disagree. I think this is the same thing as presenting an official looking ID badge titled "Certified Breast Examiner" or "Sex Coach". Unless you are using the "fake" document to do something illegal, people can make and print whatever they want. Free country!!!
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Nick
05/15/09

@I love my AfricanAmericanBerry: they send you a birthday card. IN GITMO!
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OMG! Ponies!
05/15/09

@jestermeister: As stated, you're free to test out your theory but I wouldn't do it.

I haven't memorized every law on the book in every jurisdiction but generally, presenting falsified identification documents to a police officer is a crime.

Not only that, but crimes that involve fraud and deceit (crimes of moral turpitude) are not ones you want on your record. Anytime you have to testify in court, you can be discredited by it.

Every attorney dreams of being able to cross with "This wouldn't be the first time you were caught lying, would it?"

Trying to make a point with this is not worth it. There are better ways to protect your privacy than with something that may very well be a form of fraud.
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ripfire
05/15/09

@I love my AfricanAmericanBerry: Don't you mean "If security catches you shooting the site without permission"?

I'm not sure about your state law or city ordinance, but here in L.A. government buildings the press is everywhere.
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bosskev
05/15/09

@OMG! Ponies!: "I haven't memorized every law on the book in every jurisdiction..."

And you say I disappoint you? Perhaps I should just find another commenter for whom I'll be Follower #666 (and hopefully whoever it is CAN also count).
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GitEmSteveDave_DefinesTurgid
05/15/09

@jestermeister: Then by your standards, saying you are someone else is not providing false information b/c it's free speech?
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GitEmSteveDave_DefinesTurgid
05/15/09

@jestermeister: Also, those cards usually say they are issued by Spencers or something. They don't bear the seal, the dept name, and Washington DC address.
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OMG! Ponies!
05/15/09

@bosskev: I can count too. And I'm not counting a lot of followers in this thread. Just you, SteveDave, and Ripfire.
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Brookespeed
05/15/09

@OMG! Ponies!: Rules, schmules. Act like you belong there and people won't question you. This includes looking like you belong. So all you 'unique individuals' out there, get a haircut and go buy a pair of a chinos and a button up shirt. They'll open more doors than a fake ID or palmed 100.00 bills.
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bosskev
05/15/09

@OMG! Ponies!: If you'd like, I can get you a big mug with your name on it. Hold it out while standing on street corners, makes whoring for Followers a little bit easier.

At least, a big mug sure helped me bring up my Followers count.
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GitEmSteveDave_DefinesTurgid
05/15/09

@Brookespeed: Nope, just carry a clipboard. And look annoyed. Works almost anywhere except a clipboard factory/convention.
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Goondocks
05/15/09

In reply to Fake DHS License Helps You Get Around Stupid Public Photography Bans
You might try saying "Go Fuck Yourself" instead of faking a US document.
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Jestermeister
05/15/09

@Goondocks: I don't think its faking a US document since this type of ID doesn't exist. You're basically saying "hey, have a look at this thing I have" and if that satisfies the cop, great! If not, screw em...
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ripfire
05/15/09

@jestermeister: The ID may be fictitious but DHS is not. That's still breaking the law.

Think of it this way: If I produce a fake police shield badge and start showing it to people claiming you have authority (even if you don't say you're the police), you'll get arrested.
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Voyou_Charmant
05/15/09

@CribbageLeft: exactly.
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grizgza
05/15/09

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What are you looking at if you get busted for pulling one of these?
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Diddle my Skittles
05/15/09

@grizgza: Essentially, I hope you don't have kids. You wouldn't see them until they were collecting social security. Also, I would have to assume, if you were Muslim, or had a Muslim sounding name, you'd probably would be shot on sight. In short, it's a serious federal offense to impersonate any federal official. **Sigh** the saddest thing is I can barely recall the times before 9/11. I want to remember a time when entering a plane was as simple as walking through a metal detector.

I'm not sure what Gizmodo is trying to prove here, but if I was an editor, I would splatter **DO NOT TRY THIS SHIT** all over the place.
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DustyButt™
05/15/09

@grizgza: I think its $250K/5yrs.
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Voyou_Charmant
05/15/09

@I love my AfricanAmericanBerry: You're not impersonating a federal official or anyone in law enforcement. It's a falsified pass. It's almost certainly illegal, but it's not the same as impersonating law enforcement.

The fact that you managed to overlook the fact that this throws your whole speculative statement, regarding punishment, out the window.

And the official sounding legal bit at the bottom that ends in "so there" further indicates that it's sort of a joke.
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Voyou_Charmant
05/15/09

@DustyButt: @Hand_O_Death:

Totally made up nonsense is totally made up.

The penalties stated are baseless.
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Jrsy Devil's Advocate®
03/11/09

In reply to Homeland Security Wants To Use Your Foul Stench as a Lie Detector
Did Princess Leia help them with this??
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