7D FTW. Nice try... Nikkor HAHA! so cute... Maybe Google will send some of their peeps over there and donate some better video tech. #nikond300shanggliding
@Grendel: Nikon is still about the pictures. For most basic PJ work, at least what I have come across, you don't need more than video for the web, which 720p covers just fine. Better AF, dual card slots, and, at least to me, better ergos with the Nikon. Sorry, I'll take the D300s instead of a 7D. #nikond300shanggliding
@szrimaging: You're one of those people who splurged on Nikon didn't you. And now, being stuck with Nikkor lenses, its not financially viable to go the "better" route. First, no one will ever argue the ergonomics and speed settings of the 7D. Far better weather proofing for the model price-range, AND 1080p. Second, I am a photographer. I get paid to take pictures of people doing "strange" things. I use the HD video for various purposes. Short films, Photo journalism, family photos etc... I've used Nikon and Nikkor exclusively for a while until I got fed up with it. So I took a gamble and bought a Canon 5D Mark II about 5 months ago.
I have since pawned all my old lenses, bought some seriously awesome L series lenses and have ZERO regrets. I shoot in RAW almost all the time so the dual-card slots is not a really big issue. Granted, its nice but not a deal breaker. And we aren't fully up to speed on the new 7D's features (we've tinkered but it takes time). But I have to say, I'm blown away by the AF (At least with USM L lenses).
Canon FTW! (pppppsssst... I deserve a free camera all these pro-canon posts!) #nikond300shanggliding
@Grendel: Odd, I'm a photographer too. I get paid to take photos of people skiing and snowboarding. Usually while catching big air.
This is the first year though that my company may not be able to afford a separate video person.
As for switching, I actually only have two lenses I don't need to upgrade anyways. So switching, if I felt the need, is not an issue. I just don't feel that constantly switching brands just because one has a better camera at the moment is a good choice. Both have some amazing lenses in the lineup, so that argument is null. And as long as I can capture the images I need to with the gear I have, what is the point of constantly upgrading. My camera, as long as it does what I need, should last 4 years. That gives it time to pay for itself and some of the other equipment around it. #nikond300shanggliding
"I have no idea why those bad boys aren't illegal" - Sounds like a liberal to me. The old, if I'm scared of it and know very little about it, lets outlaw it. Any gun and Any round can kill you. I don't want someone shooting me with a 500 magnum hollow point, or a bb gun. But, for the crack head that breaks into my house, I will shoot him with the best personal defense round I can. If that happens to be a hollow point - so be it.
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hollowpoints (or at least some kind of expanding round- soft points, plastic tipped rounds, and cast lead all meet that requirement) are actually required for hunting so that the chances of leaving an animal alive, but wounded are reduced.
Also as someone else mentioned, they could also be safer in a home defense type of situation because they will be stopped more quickly than their full metal jacket counterparts by things like walls.
Actually, a person is arguably more likely to die from a non-hollow point, full metal jacket, bullet due to the fact that the bullet pierces straight through a person making it more likely for them to bleed out. A hollowpoint has more stopping power because it expands on impact so it is likely that you will lose less blood.
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And that's why our military is begging the government to let them start using less "lethal" rounds because they aren't doing a very good job of killing the enemy.
See, the type of round you want to use depends on _who_ you're shooting at, and more specifically what they're wearing. If Joe has a flak jacket on, hollow points are just going to flatten against the armor plates and the force will spread out over a large area just that much more effectively. Shoot him with a round designed to take out armored personel, and it'll punch right through the armor plate and carve a big hole through your enemy.
Conversely, if you're shooting at people wearing nothing but regular clothing, a hollowpoint round, or even a snubnose round, will mushroom and transfer all the force of impact into the body. Shoot them with a bullet designed for use against armor, and it'll leave a neat little hole all the way through the body, but the target likely won't notice it immediately, which gives them plenty of time to do whatever they can to help you get dead before the blood loss affects them.
What our troops are finding is that they're armed to be effective against properly equipped soldiers, but when they shoot terrorists and insurgents, bullets just slow them down, but don't render them immediately harmless like they should.
@Purple Dave: Depends on the situation I agree, but the idea isn't always to kill the enemy. A dead enemy takes out 1 shooter, while a wounded enemy takes out at least 2. Most combatants don't simply won't leave their own wounded where they fall.
@Yeastmeister:
The issue they're facing right now is enemy combatants that look forward to martyrdom, but that the rounds they're armed with don't put them flat on their back when they get shot. Therefore, they are lethally wounded, but still actively dangerous. How lethal that tiny pokey-hole will eventually be doesn't matter to a guy who is intent on suicide-bombing your squad anyways. All _you_ want is something that will put him down, and put him down hard. Hollowpoints on unarmored flesh will open up inside, carve the hell out of whatever happens to be in the way, and transfer the full ballistic force of that bullet to whatever happened to be in the way. In human terms, it'll turn their organs into sausage, and take them off their feet. Before they'd be able to get upright again, they will definitely be feeling the bullet wound. Conversely, an FMJ round with a narrow point (like US troops are generally equipped with) will punch a clean hole all the way through, leaving minimal internal trauma behind, and transferring very little of the ballistic force to whatever it just hit. In human terms, it's like being stabbed with a fencing foil instead of hacked up with a broadsword. Sure, it might kill you eventually, but you won't notice the wound right away, and at most the ballistic force will just make you run a little slower.
Essentially, what it comes down to is that a single soft-point or hollow point will lay out an average Taliban insurgent, while you've got to pump the same guy full of standard military-issue ammo to have the same effect. Now, I don't know about you, but if I was in a wartime situation, I'd prefer to be able to count anyone I shot _once_ as being effectively out of the fight for long enough that I can deal with all of his unwounded buddies. What they're dealing with right now, though, is not unlike going up against Snyder's fast-zombies. You can shoot them, but if it's not an instant-kill shot, they'll just keep coming at you.
@bobdurfob:
That still leaves you facing the fact that when you do manage to score a single hit on an enemy combatant, there's a 50% chance that you hit him with the wrong type of bullet. No, you want ammo that's going to be 100% effective against 100% of your enemy. You're already going to miss enough shots because of cover, because you're trying not to make a target out of yourself, and because you might not have the best aim under ideal circumstances. At most, if I was in those circumstances, I'd want at most one or two clips of straight FMJ ammo, and a bunch of softpoints (hollowpoints might be disallowed by the Hague Convention). If I go up against armored troops, I know I've got some ammo that'll be more effective against them, but the bulk of it will be keyed to the bulk of who I'd be facing in any given firefight. And if I get down to those one or two FMJ clips, I'm probably going to be trying to conserve ammo as much as possible, so I might be more inclined to risk taking a shot if it means being able to line up a clean kill, knowing that once I run out of ammo, I'm a sitting duck anyways.
I think 1 million frames per second would be extremely fast and impossible to see without slowing down. Are you sure you didn't mean some fraction of a frame per second?
In the US hollow point bullets are not illegal. I bought 100 rounds two weekends ago. I even have 400 rounds of black talons which they no longer import but are still legal to have if you bought them prior to the ban. BT's are VERY deadly.
@EBone: I think the teflon cop killer bullet is more urban legend/media hysteria than fact. I havent seen anything to substantiate the claims that a teflon coated bullet can go through kevlar. Anyone have a study on it?
@Korgoths: Bullshit. They were never imported, they were re-branded, and there's plenty of arguments about whether Hydra-shoks, Lawman, Starfire, etc are more destructive. They are a high-cavitation hollowpoint with an unfortunate marketing campaign. That's all.
The so-called "cop-killer" was a military-grade brass-core armor-piercing round coated with Teflon and marketed as "KTW." These have not been legal for civilians to purchase since the mid-1980's, as have tungsten/steel-alloy rounds that are non-frangible.
What was going on at about 2min? It looked like they actually shot a steel pellet AT the bullet while it was in flight!? Holy Crap!
Oh and last I checked hollow points are'nt illegal, coated bullets the are designed to go through kevlar are though.
Actually, Hollow points are the best choice for Home Defense, because they are more likely to disintegrate in a wall if you miss the bad guy and not keep going and hit your neighbor.
@Bullet77: Yeah teflon bullets are illegal but they actually dont penetrate kevlar, theyre just designed to keep the gun cleaner during use and to reduce wear. I think thatd be a good mythbusters episode.
@snakepliskin: Really? I was under the impression that those were the ones called "Cop Killers" because of the Teflons nasty ability to "slip" through body armor.
@Bullet77: Yeah they are called cop killer bullets because people thought they could penetrate police vest and congress made a big deal out of it and banned them along with any armor piercing rounds. But i dont think there is any real evidence they can penetrate better than a regular bullet.
I mean lets be honest congress doesnt know what theyre talking about the majority of the time.
@Bullet77: A jacketed hollow point shot from a handgun will not disintegrate on a wall unless it is fairly thick concrete or steel; they go through multiple 2X4s fairly easily. The reason to use them in home defense is two-fold: 1) increased lethality and stopping power (energy transfered to the target), and 2) reduced penetration (which is hopefully how you keep them from killing the neighbor, because it does not exit the first target at dangerous velocity). If you miss and shoot the wall.. you're probably still going through it. Frangible ammunition is intended to fragment or disintegrate on interior walls and the tech was really driven by the need for bullets you could 'more safely' shoot in an aircraft (for air marshals). They are definitely not guaranteed not to penetrate a wall though.
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I have since pawned all my old lenses, bought some seriously awesome L series lenses and have ZERO regrets. I shoot in RAW almost all the time so the dual-card slots is not a really big issue. Granted, its nice but not a deal breaker. And we aren't fully up to speed on the new 7D's features (we've tinkered but it takes time). But I have to say, I'm blown away by the AF (At least with USM L lenses).
Canon FTW! (pppppsssst... I deserve a free camera all these pro-canon posts!) #nikond300shanggliding
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This is the first year though that my company may not be able to afford a separate video person.
As for switching, I actually only have two lenses I don't need to upgrade anyways. So switching, if I felt the need, is not an issue. I just don't feel that constantly switching brands just because one has a better camera at the moment is a good choice. Both have some amazing lenses in the lineup, so that argument is null. And as long as I can capture the images I need to with the gear I have, what is the point of constantly upgrading. My camera, as long as it does what I need, should last 4 years. That gives it time to pay for itself and some of the other equipment around it. #nikond300shanggliding
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Also as someone else mentioned, they could also be safer in a home defense type of situation because they will be stopped more quickly than their full metal jacket counterparts by things like walls.
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And that's why our military is begging the government to let them start using less "lethal" rounds because they aren't doing a very good job of killing the enemy.
See, the type of round you want to use depends on _who_ you're shooting at, and more specifically what they're wearing. If Joe has a flak jacket on, hollow points are just going to flatten against the armor plates and the force will spread out over a large area just that much more effectively. Shoot him with a round designed to take out armored personel, and it'll punch right through the armor plate and carve a big hole through your enemy.
Conversely, if you're shooting at people wearing nothing but regular clothing, a hollowpoint round, or even a snubnose round, will mushroom and transfer all the force of impact into the body. Shoot them with a bullet designed for use against armor, and it'll leave a neat little hole all the way through the body, but the target likely won't notice it immediately, which gives them plenty of time to do whatever they can to help you get dead before the blood loss affects them.
What our troops are finding is that they're armed to be effective against properly equipped soldiers, but when they shoot terrorists and insurgents, bullets just slow them down, but don't render them immediately harmless like they should.
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The issue they're facing right now is enemy combatants that look forward to martyrdom, but that the rounds they're armed with don't put them flat on their back when they get shot. Therefore, they are lethally wounded, but still actively dangerous. How lethal that tiny pokey-hole will eventually be doesn't matter to a guy who is intent on suicide-bombing your squad anyways. All _you_ want is something that will put him down, and put him down hard. Hollowpoints on unarmored flesh will open up inside, carve the hell out of whatever happens to be in the way, and transfer the full ballistic force of that bullet to whatever happened to be in the way. In human terms, it'll turn their organs into sausage, and take them off their feet. Before they'd be able to get upright again, they will definitely be feeling the bullet wound. Conversely, an FMJ round with a narrow point (like US troops are generally equipped with) will punch a clean hole all the way through, leaving minimal internal trauma behind, and transferring very little of the ballistic force to whatever it just hit. In human terms, it's like being stabbed with a fencing foil instead of hacked up with a broadsword. Sure, it might kill you eventually, but you won't notice the wound right away, and at most the ballistic force will just make you run a little slower.
Essentially, what it comes down to is that a single soft-point or hollow point will lay out an average Taliban insurgent, while you've got to pump the same guy full of standard military-issue ammo to have the same effect. Now, I don't know about you, but if I was in a wartime situation, I'd prefer to be able to count anyone I shot _once_ as being effectively out of the fight for long enough that I can deal with all of his unwounded buddies. What they're dealing with right now, though, is not unlike going up against Snyder's fast-zombies. You can shoot them, but if it's not an instant-kill shot, they'll just keep coming at you.
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That way you can have the best of both worlds!
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That still leaves you facing the fact that when you do manage to score a single hit on an enemy combatant, there's a 50% chance that you hit him with the wrong type of bullet. No, you want ammo that's going to be 100% effective against 100% of your enemy. You're already going to miss enough shots because of cover, because you're trying not to make a target out of yourself, and because you might not have the best aim under ideal circumstances. At most, if I was in those circumstances, I'd want at most one or two clips of straight FMJ ammo, and a bunch of softpoints (hollowpoints might be disallowed by the Hague Convention). If I go up against armored troops, I know I've got some ammo that'll be more effective against them, but the bulk of it will be keyed to the bulk of who I'd be facing in any given firefight. And if I get down to those one or two FMJ clips, I'm probably going to be trying to conserve ammo as much as possible, so I might be more inclined to risk taking a shot if it means being able to line up a clean kill, knowing that once I run out of ammo, I'm a sitting duck anyways.
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The Teflon-coating gives the bullet the nasty ability to slide right thru body armor.
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The so-called "cop-killer" was a military-grade brass-core armor-piercing round coated with Teflon and marketed as "KTW." These have not been legal for civilians to purchase since the mid-1980's, as have tungsten/steel-alloy rounds that are non-frangible.
Google/Wikipedia is your friend.
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Oh and last I checked hollow points are'nt illegal, coated bullets the are designed to go through kevlar are though.
Actually, Hollow points are the best choice for Home Defense, because they are more likely to disintegrate in a wall if you miss the bad guy and not keep going and hit your neighbor.
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I mean lets be honest congress doesnt know what theyre talking about the majority of the time.
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