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Ioncloud9
11/24/09

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That keyboard looks extremely uncomfortable to type on
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SewerShark: LOOK BEHIND YOU, A THREE HEADED MONKEY!!!
11/24/09

@Ioncloud9: It's kind of difficult to get used to.
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I-Love-Gizhacker
11/24/09

@SewerShark: LOOK BEHIND YOU, A THREE HEADED MONKEY!!!: Kind of is an understatement. The iMacs were the only computers available in the library, and I had to do a paper. I typed in a few urls, and ditched that shit for my laptop.
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heimbachae
11/24/09

@SewerShark: LOOK BEHIND YOU, A THREE HEADED MONKEY!!!: if you think about it it's the same size as say a macbook's keyboard, BUT with that said it is at a different angle than you would type on a laptop, so it does take a learning curve to get used to.
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SewerShark: LOOK BEHIND YOU, A THREE HEADED MONKEY!!!
11/24/09

@heimbachae: It's not just about the angle, but the keys got a different feel, if you compare to another keyboard, even sony's chiclete keyboard.
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Nathan Obbards
11/24/09

@SewerShark: It's one of the most uncomfortable keyboards I've ever used. For some reason, it always makes my fingers hurt.
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HelloYouAll
11/24/09

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I wonder how many comments will this post have if it where saying something like "Dell Core i7 XPS Showing Up Dead" First it would not say "some" it most likely will say "Most", as for the comments we would be seen people crying, horror stories about accented guys making people feel uncomfortable, references to haters sites, Apple fans will be proudly looking at PC users like "Oh you and your cheap products" But its Apple issues so...
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kingsnake
11/24/09

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wah wah wahhhhhh.....
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Nathan Obbards
11/24/09

@kingsnake: Good to hear you have something useful to contribute. I know I would be pissed if my $2k computer showed up broken, but apparently that's cool with you.
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Odin
11/24/09

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I'd never touch an iMac anyway. The only Mac I could be tempted into ever buying is a Macbook. I couldn't stand to be without a desktop I couldn't open up, upgrade, or customize myself. With a laptop though it's not really limited to Macs in that respect.
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iheartpie
11/24/09

@Odin: You can do all those things on an iMac.

Who gave this man a star?
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Odin
11/24/09

@iheartpie:

Last I checked all you can change is the RAM and the HDD, hardly "all those things". Hell if you have an iMac you can't even change your monitor because the damn thing is integrated.

Macs still offer incredibly poor hardware variety and upgrade options compared to a desktop PC.
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Helvetica
11/24/09

@Odin: "You can't even change your monitor." No, you can't change the monitor on an iMac, just as you can't do this on a notebook. Congratulations on highlighting one of the defining features of an all-in-one computer as a Mac flaw. That might be the weakest argument against the iMac I have ever heard.

The rest is correct, however. I agree that for people who want to upgrade their computers Macs in generally are not for them, but really if you are buying a Mac then why do you need to upgrade? The base hardware will do just fine browsing the web, word processing, emailing, photoshopping, etc. If you want to change your graphics card for games, then why are you buying a Mac in the first place?
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Pope John Peeps II
11/24/09

@Odin: Yeah. I love PCS. The sliding racks of parts, the slots and slots for new cards. They're pretty rad.

Also do you get any support from Apple on faulty parts if you crack open the box? Or does that void everything?
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Odin
11/24/09

@Helvetica:

That may as well be the weakest counter argument I have ever heard. I've got a little piece of information you might not have heard before. It may be shocking I know but bear with me.

Desktop =/= Notebook

Apple are the only (if not the only, then one of very few) hardware manufacturers that produce an all-in-one computer as a desktop still. So yes, it's still a flaw specific to the iMac. Built in screens are a defining feature of portable computing because such integration offers portability. With the iMac it just offers a minor space reduction. Congratulations on trying to compare two different kettles of fish.
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Odin
11/24/09

@Pope John Peeps II:

Depends on what you do in there I think. Certain parts are just off limits from what I recall though.
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RadcliffeByblis
11/24/09

@Odin: You'd never touch an iMac, but you feel compelled to read and comment on articles about them?

The fact that iMacs are not right for some people does not mean there's no legitimate market for them, in spite of some people's need to cast themselves as the universal user.

I had a Dell PC on which I never changed monitors or graphics cards over its 6 years of use before moving to a new PC. I had an iMac that was the same way. So I had no fear that my new iMac would be limiting the way that I use my computer.
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NateN
11/24/09

@Odin: "Apple are the only (if not the only, then one of very few) hardware manufacturers that produce an all-in-one computer as a desktop still."

Um.. what?

Dell Studio One
Dell XPS One
HP Pavilion All-in-One
HP TouchSmart
Lenovo C series

I'm not a fan of the all-in-one computers, but just about everyone makes them!
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Helvetica
11/24/09

@Odin: Please save your wrath for Ragnarok. As I said, I agree completely with all your arguments save that one small sentence about the build-in monitor being an iMac flaw. Don't worry, your tidbit of information was neither new nor shocking. A desktop is not an notebook. Well said! However, the integration of the iMac does make for a small footprint and few wires (one, to own the truth). Also, many manufacturers make all-in-ones: HP, Sony, MSI, Dell etc.

That said, I must take argument with your claim that I was comparing "two different kettles of fish". Upon review, I find nowhere in my comment where I drew any comparisons. All I said was the iMac is an all-in-one and thus has the monitor built-in.

Now let us bury any bad blood bought with misunderstanding. C'mon, you know you have the coolest name on the entire forums! :)
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Odin
11/24/09

@NateN:

They're still quite uncommon and to be fair most of them tout touch screens which I'd consider to be fair game for computer integration (could still probably do it without though) whereas the iMac is just a regular monitor bolted to a computer.
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madog
11/24/09

@Odin: Everything else about the iMac aside (I like what they are as it's great for consumers, but not me) have you ever actually used a touchscreen desktop for an extended period of time? 30 minutes even and it gets uncomfortable. It's an usual position mainly.

If it were Minority report style it would be a bit different, but touch screen desktops are still a novelty and obviously aren't as successful as touchpads.
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Odin
11/24/09

@RadcliffeByblis: I also read the paper in the morning and read about people I'll never meet and countries I'll never go to. Hell I may even comment on those stories to a colleague.

=P

That said I never made the claim there's no market for them or that they're all bad. I just expressed my opinion that they don't suit me and listed a few reasons why I don't personally like them.

Those reasons might not apply to everyone but I never claimed they should.
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Odin
11/24/09

@madog: I haven't personally but I imagine the ones that are styled like oversized tablet PCs are good for art. I agree that trying to use a monitor as a touchscreen wouldn't be practical or comfortable. I think the intent with most of them is that you can lie them flat and use them as a tablet or stand it up and use it as a computer monitor.
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Odin
11/24/09

@Helvetica:

Sorry if I was a bit snappy. I must have been in a ratty mood this morning.

Even so you did make a comparison between an iMac and a notebook, ie drawing the similarity that you can't replace the screen on either. I think I was right to point out that it's a stretch to compare desktops to portables.

It would have been better to draw a comparison between other desktop all-in-one computers.

At any rate I was merely trying to rebuke iheartpies so very wrong comment that you have the same level of hardware customization available with a desktop Mac (the iMac specifically) as you do with a desktop PC.

At any rate no hard feelings.
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madog
11/24/09

@Odin: So far. Hopefully it's not just because we (me) are so lazy that the simple fact of holding our (my) hands out in the air is a tiring effort.

Whew. I think I need a nap.

#speakup
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FadedSpark -- I Dream of birdie
11/24/09

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I don't think apple has been QA'ing them correctly. At my best buy, we opened one for demo and it was DOA with a nice shatter on the outer glass and no visible damage to the box.
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Nathan Obbards
11/24/09

@FadedSpark -- I Dream of birdie: To play devil's advocate, the box could have been dropped on it's face, not damaging the box, but killing the screen.
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FadedSpark -- I Dream of birdie
11/24/09

@Nathan Obbards: It wasn't the interior screen, it was the glass cover, and it was visibly chipped in one spot and on the side. LCD was totally fine. Shouldn't have posted at 4am but I was just finishing up some dragon age... heh

It very much did not look like shipping damage anywhere. <_<
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tvcity6455
11/24/09

@Nathan Obbards: The packaging within the box should be designed to withstand reasonable drops and bumps. If the packaging is indeed the problem, Apple needs to rectify this right away (and obviously they will if it keeps costing them replacement machines).
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Snes
11/24/09

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Ah that made me laugh... not cause I dislike apple, I do a little, but I enjoy my iPod, and I've always considered getting a macbook for class (just so expensive...), but because the mac commercial with the slogan "it just works" popped into my head. Apparently these aren't quite working... hehehe.
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meow-mixer
11/24/09

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Try restarting in safe mode.
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ID Ron Burgundy
11/24/09

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Dang. I was planning on getting one tomorrow. :(
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Sandeep Murali
11/24/09

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Have you tried turning it off and back on again?

/ITcrowd
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kernel panic
11/24/09

@Sandeep Murali: are you sure it's plugged in?
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Dafrety
11/24/09

@kernel panic: Did you reinstall the operating system?
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appletoad
11/24/09

@kernel panic: "it doesn't show any wires on the box though!"

I have heard that one.
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Kaiser-Machead
11/24/09

@appletoad: LOL
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Zebatinsky
11/24/09

@Sandeep Murali: Yeah, but it's still not doing it!
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madog
11/24/09

@Sandeep Murali: Jiggle the power cable.
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