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    Windows Mobile Marketplace App Copy Protection Is a Joke

    SanDisk Sansa Clip+ MP3 Player Keeps the Bizarre slotRadio Dream Alive

    Kindle DRM Surfaces To Deny User the Books He's Bought and Paid For

    Universal and Virgin Offering Unlimited DRM-Free MP3s For Flat Monthly Rate

    Blu-ray Managed Copy Full-Res Backups Are Only Good in Theory

    Napster's New Pitch: Five DRM-Free Songs, Unlimited Streaming, $5 A Month

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    Image of Sockatume Sockatume
    10/09/09

    In reply to Windows Mobile Marketplace App Copy Protection Is a Joke
    Reading that MS propaganda doc is amusing:

    1) They actually outright state that the "basic" protection is simply requiring that someone sign in with a Live ID before they can download, then deleting the CAB file. It's phrased to imply that there's more going on, but that's it.

    2) Apparently only a few hypothetical "super-hackers" could possibly work around the protection provided by (1)

    3) The expensive, premium protection is seemingly the same old tie-the-app-to-the-IMEI patching of the binary that everyone and their dog uses, which is probably trivial to hack too.
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    Image of SQLGuru SQLGuru
    10/09/09

    In reply to Windows Mobile Marketplace App Copy Protection Is a Joke
    I had heard that he was just hijacking the CAB file. It's probably downloading to some temp location. If you make a copy of that CAB while the installer is running, you should be able to then copy the CAB to any other WinMo device. Most of them have a point where they prompt for input (install to device or to card is a good candidate) and you can probably grab it then.

    If they use Pocket IE, then it's very likely in that standard directory. A quick "Chandler" should find the full path. You could probably even write a small app that automatically mirrored any CAB file out of there.
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    Image of SQLGuru SQLGuru
    10/09/09

    @SQLGuru: Here's the "Chandler" search I used to find it: [www.bing.com]

    [blogs.msdn.com]

    "\Windows\Profiles\guest\Temporary Internet Files".

    Anyone with the WinMo app store that can verify this for 6.5?
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    Image of CSX321 CSX321
    10/09/09

    @SQLGuru: Yes, that's basically it. Although to be fair, the documentation spells this out pretty clearly. It also talks about an alternate key-based system that involves adding some code to your program. I think maybe that's not available yet.

    I'm still undecided on whether to submit my software to the Marketplace. I'm not worried about piracy much, as they're only $1.99 apps anyway. But the expense and trouble that seems to be involved in getting things approved is an impediment to individual developers like me.

    I have two apps now in the Samsung App Store. That was very cheap and easy, and it has a pretty good copy protection scheme, tied to the phone's ID.
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    Image of SQLGuru SQLGuru
    10/09/09

    @CSX321: Do you have a good "finger friendly" set of widgets that you use for your app? I have an app that I've started writing, but with no native controls as part of the SDK, I'm torn between continuing working on it and giving up. (I'm more of a function over form guy.) My app is about 90% done in terms of function but only about 10% done in terms of "pretty" -- at least the version I plan on giving away for free. Then I would release a "pro" version with additional features.

    As for piracy, I'm really writing it for me but wouldn't mind a few buck from others who find it just as useful.
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    Image of CSX321 CSX321
    10/09/09

    @SQLGuru: I got started writing stuff for myself, too.

    No, I don't really have a set of controls or anything yet. I have a C# image button class I did for one app. For other things, I just space them so they can be hit easily with a finger. Oh, I also have a form base class with "flick" gesture support and the ability to slide up, down, left, or right between forms. I've pretty much found the limits of what can be done graphics-wise with the .NET 2 CF.

    For my apps I have demo versions that have limited features and nag screens, but no time limit. They can be activated with an RPN key (Handango-style) to full version status. I haven't decided yet whether to put them on Handango, etc. 50% is a lot compared to Samsung's and Microsoft's 30%.
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    Image of frigg frigg
    08/31/09

    In reply to SanDisk Sansa Clip+ MP3 Player Keeps the Bizarre slotRadio Dream Alive
    With a name like Clip+, I was expecting a more creative and user-friendly form of DRM, something to really make me want to pull the trigger on this lusty gadget.

    Like every time you want to listen to it, you have to stick your finger into the slot and let it "clip" off a sliver of fingernail in order to confirm a proper DNA match before the music plays.
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    Image of DustyButt™ DustyButt™
    08/31/09

    In reply to SanDisk Sansa Clip+ MP3 Player Keeps the Bizarre slotRadio Dream Alive
    If anyone is wondering who buys these things, it's people like me...

    I buy them online for around $20 bucks, load them with an hour or two of music and use it when I workout. After 6-10 months of being dropped, splashed, stepped on, and humidified by a heavy sweater, they eventually crumble and corrode away.

    Then I just buy a new one without shedding a single tear.

    I couldn't really care less about the other jibber-jabber.
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    Image of Hello Mister Walrus Hello Mister Walrus
    08/31/09

    @DustyButt™: Also consider that there are millions of people outside America who can't or don't want to pay $200 for an iPod.
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    Image of Hawk24 Hawk24
    08/31/09

    In reply to SanDisk Sansa Clip+ MP3 Player Keeps the Bizarre slotRadio Dream Alive
    Those are the worst brand of mp3 players EVER
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    Image of Zipthebunny Zipthebunny
    06/21/09

    In reply to Kindle DRM Surfaces To Deny User the Books He's Bought and Paid For
    sorry, but i thought you could DL a book as many times as you wanted once you paid for it?....from the amazon kindle page
    "Automatic Library Backup: Download Your Books Anytime for Free


    A copy of every book you purchased from the Kindle Store is backed up online at Amazon.com in case you ever need to download it again. You can wirelessly re-download books for free any time. This allows you to make room for new titles on your Kindle, knowing that Amazon is storing your personal library of Kindle books. We even back up your last page read and annotations, so you'll never lose those, either. Think of it as a bookshelf in your attic--even though you don't see it, you know your books are there."

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    Image of weatherman weatherman
    06/21/09

    @Zipthebunny: That's what I thought too, and I suppose we both thought that for good reason - because Amazon said it!


    I'm flabergasted by this story. It's completely outrageous that Amazon doesn't let you download the books you've purchased to whatever device they're supported on. It very similar to Apple's scheme to control the number of devices you can download DRM'd music on to.


    As far as I'm concerned if I purchase a digital book or a song, it's mine and I have the right to take it to whatever device I like. If Amazon or Apple restrict that, I feel completely justified in cracking the DRM or downloading a copy via P2P. EULA be damned.

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    Image of GitEmSteveDave_OverSleptThisMorn GitEmSteveDave_OverSleptThisMorn
    06/15/09

    In reply to Universal and Virgin Offering Unlimited DRM-Free MP3s For Flat Monthly Rate
    Hello? Yes, this is Richard Branson. I appear to be stuck in a box. No, I'm really Branson. No I'm not kidding. Seriously, can you help me, it's getting stuffy and warm in here. No, I don't have access to a jet, just please send help!
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    Image of Mike Zuniga: That was Unexpected Mike Zuniga: That was Unexpected
    06/15/09

    In reply to Universal and Virgin Offering Unlimited DRM-Free MP3s For Flat Monthly Rate
    Has no one heard of the Zune Pass?
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    Image of 32ndnote 32ndnote
    06/15/09

    @Mike Zuniga: No, I don't think anyone has.


    Either that or Zune Pass only lets you actually download a few songs at a time and is pretty much just Rhapsody for the Zune.

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    Image of OMG! Ponies! OMG! Ponies!
    06/15/09

    @32ndnote: I guess you haven't heard of Zune Pass then.


    You get to keep 10 songs per month and download as much as you want. The only limit on how many you can download at a time is whatever your bandwidth is.

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    Image of Serolf Divad Serolf Divad
    06/12/09

    In reply to Blu-ray Managed Copy Full-Res Backups Are Only Good in Theory
    I'm having a hard time picturing who would ever go for this... a library maybe?
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    Image of Nick Nick
    06/12/09

    In reply to Blu-ray Managed Copy Full-Res Backups Are Only Good in Theory
    i am just gonna sit in front of my tv with a camcorder. that will be how i make my copies.
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    Image of Ibelieveinsandwitches Ibelieveinsandwitches
    06/12/09

    @Nick: I hate doing that, there's always hear some jerk making noise in the background, and don't get me started on when someone gets up to go to the bathroom.
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    Image of ripfire ripfire
    06/12/09

    @Ibelieveinsandwitches: That's all part of the movie-watching experience.
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    06/12/09

    In reply to Blu-ray Managed Copy Full-Res Backups Are Only Good in Theory
    God dammit just get Blu-ray drives cost down already.
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    Image of Smitty Werbenjagermanjensen Smitty Werbenjagermanjensen
    06/12/09

    @oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo...:


    $129 at Walmart still too much for you?

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    Image of ripfire ripfire
    06/12/09

    @Smitty Werbenjagermanjensen: Compared to a DVD player? Yes. Yes it is.
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    Image of ripfire ripfire
    05/18/09

    In reply to Napster's New Pitch: Five DRM-Free Songs, Unlimited Streaming, $5 A Month
    Wait. Is this article is sent from the future?


    LOS ANGELES - MAY 19, 2009 - Napster, the pioneer of digital music, today unveiled its latest music offering

    Today is the 18th, isn't it? *checks calendar*

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    Image of Nick Nick
    05/18/09

    @ripfire: Giz is in the loop. they get the stuff early.
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    Image of MrBlahBlah MrBlahBlah
    05/18/09

    In reply to Napster's New Pitch: Five DRM-Free Songs, Unlimited Streaming, $5 A Month
    I think this is pretty good. It is like buying 5 songs at the lowest price possible, plus you get a pandora, with the ability to actually choose what you want to hear. If you are going to buy 5 songs a month anyways, there is no downside to this offer. How this is "douchy", as some have claimed, I do not understand
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    Image of cbandes cbandes
    05/18/09

    In reply to Napster's New Pitch: Five DRM-Free Songs, Unlimited Streaming, $5 A Month
    I don't get it - there's already tons and tons of free radio - lala, pandora, last.fm... Why is this one worth paying for?
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    Image of triggerx triggerx
    05/18/09

    @cbandes: Well, the 5 "free" songs makes it a wash (and cheaper than iTunes), but hopefully unlike the free streaming services, maybe you can actually rewind, click next infinitely, and pick the songs you want to hear next?
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    Image of Kaiser-Machead Kaiser-Machead
    05/18/09

    @triggerx: If you're paying a subscription price, it better allow you to rewind and fast forward at your leisure. If it doesn't, it's 100% worthless.
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    Image of xenoastro xenoastro
    05/18/09

    In reply to Napster's New Pitch: Five DRM-Free Songs, Unlimited Streaming, $5 A Month
    somehow i think there is a 100 paged PDF somewhere with the unreadable fine print :?


    and what consequence will it have, for your songs, when this "cheap" service is gone in a year or two ?

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    Image of kleptoman kleptoman
    05/18/09

    @xenoastro: Just strip the DRM off and you get way more than 5 songs a month....sweet! I recommend DRM converter for this.
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    Image of dsh dsh
    05/18/09

    @kleptoman: Where can you buy "way more than 5 songs a month" for $5?


    I mean, sure, if you manage to find some of iTunes' mythical $.69 tracks you could get... ya know... 6 songs instead of 5.


    A buck a song is the industry standard, and these songs are DRM free.

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    Image of kleptoman kleptoman
    05/18/09

    @dsh: Please to be reading the first part of the sentence: "strip off the DRM". Napster has unlimited downloads but they are DRMed .wma files....Strip that off and you get way more than 5 songs for $5
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    Image of Kaiser-Machead Kaiser-Machead
    05/18/09

    @kleptoman: I'm sure he meant a legitimate alternative. Finding (and most likely purchasing) DRM-stripping software is not quite the same.
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