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    Image of Odin Odin
    11/25/09

    In reply to The Best Smartphones on Every Carrier
    I have a relatively dumb phone. But it's:

    A) A cheapass contract phone which while not having a huge amount of minutes has unlimited texting and 3G internet as well as free calls to anyone on the same provider.

    B) Has Skype and facebook integrated. Skype is a big draw for me as I can talk to most people I know on it.

    I was thinking of getting an iPhone but eh it's not that worthwhile. Don't get me wrong it's still a great phone but you can do a similar job with an iPod Touch and a 3G mifi for a lot less money which is what I'm doing instead.

    Depends how much you value a compass, GPS and a camera. Out of those I think I'll only miss the camera and only barely.

    If I do pick up a proper smartphone when my contracts up I'll probably go android. I couldn't justify an iPhone after purchasing a 3rd Gen iPod Touch.
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    Image of tnkgrl tnkgrl
    11/24/09

    In reply to The Best Smartphones on Every Carrier
    Forget the Cliq - substitute with the N900 :)

    Incidentally, that's what's in my pockets right now (Pre, Droid, 3GS, N900)...

    Ah the joys of review units!
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    Image of Colin Cassady Colin Cassady
    11/24/09

    @tnkgrl: are you the same tnkgrl from the OQOtalk forums?

    And Amazon has yet to ship my n900 :(
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    Image of cruzer555 cruzer555
    11/24/09

    @tnkgrl: n900? How stinky! The best tmobile phone is an unlocked 3gs
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    11/25/09

    @cruzer555: But the 3GS does not have 3G on T-Mobile US, while the N900 does.
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    11/25/09

    @Colin Cassady: It is me, but mostly I'm here: [tnkgrl.wordpress.com]
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    Image of cruzer555 cruzer555
    11/25/09

    @tnkgrl: Its worth it for the vastly superior hardware and software.
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    11/26/09

    @cruzer555: The N900 and iPhone 3GS have the same processor, and the iPhone wins by being thinner and featuring a capacitive screen...

    Otherwise the N900 hardware wins in every way. Better primary camera (5 MP with Zeiss lens and dual-LED flash), higher screen resolution (800x480), hardware keyboard, standard micro USB data/power port, micro-SDHC card slot (in addition to the built-in 32 GB of storage), stereo speakers, secondary front-facing camera (VGA), built-in kick stand!

    So how the iPhone 3GS hardware better than the N900 again?

    I have both devices, and own the iPhone 3GS (the N900 is a review unit), so I'm just being objective here.
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    11/26/09

    @tnkgrl: I admit the camera is better, flash in a phone however is USELESS. The screen resolution is indeed much better, I hope the next iphone will match it. Hardware keyboards SUCK they are a waste of space and slower for typing. Micro USB is worse than ipod dock connector because you can't dock it in a stereo system as easy. Micro SD is not necessary in a 32GB phone. All phone speakers suck, stereo or not. NOBODY needs a front facing camera in a god damn phone!!! Kick stands are useless wastes of space.

    Out of all the things you listed, many actually make the N900 WORSE like a crappy hardware keyboard. Only 2 things are better: the screen resolution, and the 1.8 extra megapixels.

    It is not worth using such an inferior phone with a pathetic crippled OS (maemo cant even use portrait mode) when the only advantages are more screen resolution (with an awful resistive touch screen) and a SLIGHTLY better camera.

    Summary:
    -The OS is literally the worst, even windows mobile 6 is better
    -The hardware keyboard practically doubles the size and slows down your typing
    -It has the worst type of touchscreen, a pathetic, atrocious resistive one
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    11/27/09

    @cruzer555: Have you even used and compared both devices in person? I presume not.

    Have you tried the hardware keyboard on the N900? Obviosuly not, since it's pretty decent.

    I generally avoid using the flash on any camera (except for fill), but saying it's useless is a bit much...

    It's nice to be able to copy a music or videos from the 32 GB of storage to a friend's micro-SD card for them to enjoy on their phone without using Bluetooth or needing a computer - I've done it!

    The front-facing camera is useful for video chat software (like Skype) - most people just don't know it's even possible to do this on a phone and assume a laptop is required.

    Maemo is one of the best OS's I've ever used on any phone, and I've reviewed quite a few (check my blog: [tnkgrl.wordpress.com]) .

    Maemo is pretty much a full-on version of Debian linux with a fast and intuitive touch UI sitting on top.

    There's not technical limitation why the UI mostly landscape (the phone app and the picture viewer automatically switch to portrait, BTW).

    It's just that the N900 is the successor to the N810/N800/770 Internet tablets, and as such is primarily meant to be used 2-handed in landscape.

    Better than Windows Mobile? Are you kidding me? Clearly you don't know what you are talking about. Maemo is a gem.

    Have you tried surfing the web with N900? It's pretty much full-on Firefox with Flash 9 support. Name another phone that can do this.

    The resistive touchscreen is a hug mistake, I agree :)
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    11/27/09

    @tnkgrl: ANY hardware keyboard withers in comparison to a good touch version.

    Front facing camera is useful for skype and stuff, but not useful on a phone. Talking to someone while holding the camera filming your face is not very easy.

    Maemo is fast, maybe even a little slick, but it is like a shiny yet EMPTY box. By that I mean, it has very little features in comparison to phones from better manufacturers.

    Yes, it technologically can support portrait, but WHY DIDNT THE MORONS AT NOKIA ENABLE IT!?!?

    Maemo is a gem... In the roughest of the rough. Windows Mobile is far superior. Running Maemo is like running a stripped out debian, and running windows mobile is like running FULL windows on your phone, complete with file explorer and right click.

    Firefox is worse than safari, the only advantage is flash.

    By the way, before I saw the flaws, I REALLY WANTED THIS PHONE, it was only after experiencing the drawbacks that I figured I will wait a revision or two.

    In conclusion:
    In a couple years, when Maemo has been outfitted with all modern features, and they put in a capacitive touch screen, I am sure this will be a wonderful phone to have. I am looking forward to the n91o or whatever they call the next version, which I prey will have capacitive :)
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    11/27/09

    @cruzer555: Sorry, but you lost all credibility when you mentioned "even windows mobile 6 is better [than Maemo]"...

    I'm done discussing this with you. I love my iPhone 3GS and my N900 and my Droid and my Pre, all for different reasons!

    The smarphone world is clearly getting divided into 2 camps: OS X, Android, WebOS and Maemo at the top, Symbian, BlackBerry OS and Windows Mobile at the bottom.

    If you can't see that, I don't have to convince you. Cheers :)
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    11/28/09

    @tnkgrl: You are wrong about the smartphone world. The ONLY good ones are Android and iPhone. Until they get their act together (which they probably won't) they are on the bottom with windows mobile.
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    Image of The Lab The Lab
    11/24/09

    In reply to The Best Smartphones on Every Carrier
    Seeing two Motorola phones in the "best phones" article makes me feel like I'm in a time warp. I'm glad they're back, they make great quality handsets.
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    Image of Mr_Human Mr_Human
    11/24/09

    @The Lab: Hah. Not in my experience. I loved my RAZR back in the day, but it was of poor build quality. Needed replacing several times.
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    11/24/09

    @Mr_Human: Yeah they fell apart, just less frequently than any other phone of that RAZR era. I mean, cast metal hinges, glass screens and laser cut metal keypads. What was made better than that, at the time? Not that Kyocera or LG crap. Possibly Sony Ericsson, they were good. I'd be happy to see them make a comeback as well.
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    11/24/09

    In reply to The Best Smartphones on Every Carrier
    I guess I hadn't realized how quickly T-mobile had fallen.

    Used to be there was no question you'd see the G1 on there but now admittedly its a little outdated and t-mobile insists on holding on to it.

    Time to make something happen T-mobile.
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    Image of BroScience BroScience
    11/24/09

    @tande04: it maybe older, but its not outdated. with some tweaks from XDA, it can hold its own against the Cliq.
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    11/24/09

    @BroScience: No doubt but the fact its not on the list speaks volumes to me.

    What I was really getting at was that the Cliq is a far inferior phone to the G1 in most ways.
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    Edited by tande04 at 11/24/09 11:16 AM tande04 was starred tande04 was unstarred
    Image of Badongadoodle Badongadoodle
    11/24/09

    @tande04: make a list of those inferior ways, please. if you are goint to drop a dump like that - back it up. Ah, and a .2" smaller screen dosnt count.
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    Image of MarcusMaximus MarcusMaximus
    11/24/09

    @tande04: That's not really true. The Cliq is equal or better than the G1 in every way. The only way I could see an argument for it being lacking is that so far, as far as I've heard, there's been no luck at getting root on it. That's really just a matter of time, though, and it honestly took a while on the G1 as well.
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    Image of OCEntertainment OCEntertainment
    11/24/09

    @Badongadoodle: I'll offer some input if you promise to never use the phrase "back up that dump" again. ;-)

    The CLIQ (last I checked) was running Android 1.5, which means it's already a generation behind. It also disqualifies it from the GPS app. Additionally, the MOTOBLUR interface is a questionable advantage at best. From what I've seen, the Facebook/Twitter integration gadgets are less than stellar and only provide a chaotic view of your network.

    I don't think the G1 is head and shoulders above the CLIQ....but I do think it has a little more dignity. If nothing else because it gets the Google Experience branding instead of MOTOBLUR. Sense and Rachael were good improvements on top of Android. I'm less than convinced that MOTOBLUR has such an advantage.
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    11/24/09

    @Badongadoodle: I'll defer to OCEntertainment here and go further and point out just general build qualities. If Moto put out the best they have with the droid then the cliq is certainly the worst. Every review of motoblur has been less than stellar. The widgets add little but sluggishness. The cliq may have more memory but you lose most of it just with blur (not to mention battery life, which on the g1 has been pretty damn good since 1.6).

    Then there are other advantages that are debatable but often pointed out.
    5 row QWERTY
    Dedicated call keys
    Secondary pointing device

    So the real question would be what does the cliq have that the G1 doesn't?
    5.0 camera which is always a debatable inclusion.

    Really though I wasn't really trying to say that the G1 is out and out better. Regardless of any other argument I'd say that everyone agreed that the G1 was a flagship phone for t-mobile. I'm amazed if anyone could really say the same for the cliq. Hell even t-mobile still pimps the MyTouch more then they market the cliq.
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    Edited by tande04 at 11/24/09 1:50 PM tande04 was starred tande04 was unstarred
    Image of anexanhume anexanhume
    11/24/09

    In reply to The Best Smartphones on Every Carrier
    After having owned an iPhone and now owning a Droid, I'd have to say no to the iphone having the best user interface. If for nothing else than the beautiful shade.
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    11/24/09

    @anexanhume: I just think its funny that people only say that now that the droid came out.

    Its the same thing its been from the beginning in most ways. Some tweaks here and there. People must love the flat icons.
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    Image of Badongadoodle Badongadoodle
    11/24/09

    @tande04: I dont know where you have been shopping, but how does a user interface differ with flat icons? Oh yeah, it does not.
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    Image of MarcusMaximus MarcusMaximus
    11/24/09

    @anexanhume: As an owner of a G1, I'd agree with you. Also, the fact that the android marketplace isn't ruled over with an iron fist means that we get apps like SNESoid/Gameboid that will never be available on the App Store.
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    11/24/09

    @Badongadoodle: That would be the point but thanks for playing.

    Besides some changes in settings and other backend stuff what is the main difference between 2.0 and 1.6? Flat icons.

    #tips
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    Image of OCEntertainment OCEntertainment
    11/24/09

    @MarcusMaximus: Thanks for tipping me off to what will likely be the complete ruination of my productivity forever.

    *downloads Gameboid*
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    Image of Segador Segador
    11/24/09

    In reply to The Best Smartphones on Every Carrier
    But...where's my N-Gage?
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    Image of DustyButt™ DustyButt™
    11/24/09

    In reply to The Best Smartphones on Every Carrier
    This thread is going to become a total flame fest. Oh well. I have to say. You shouldn't count jailbreaking as a feature. You should weigh the merits out of the box. As far as the iPhone, you shouldn't have to jailbreak or hack a phone to gain functionality.

    Everyone has their needs but I have to say, after my real world usage, it's, at the very least, a dead heat between the Droid and the iPhone.

    After 3 weeks with the Droid I don't miss my iPhone AT ALL. My only plan for my iPhone is to unlock it and use a prepaid sim when I travel overseas (I'm pretty sure that's possible, if not I'm not too worried).

    WTF? ... a jailbroken iPhone on Tmo? Oh well. TMo coverage is trash anyway.
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    Edited by DustyButt™ at 11/24/09 10:46 AM DustyButt™ was starred DustyButt™ was unstarred
    Image of jakemg jakemg
    11/24/09

    @DustyButt™: I have a MT3G on Tmobile, and have no problems with coverage in the Chicago area, but I take it you're referring to nationwide coverage. I guess that's true. The fact that I got my phone, which is useable, but not the best, for $40 when I wasn't even eligible for an upgrade softens the blow a bit.
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    11/24/09

    @jakemg: Yeah, I tried to refine and edit my comment but my work browser and this site really don't get along.

    Yes, Tmo national coverage is really bad for those who travel regionally.
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    11/24/09

    In reply to The Best Smartphones on Every Carrier
    matt,

    You really need an editor. The best smartphone on AT&T is a Jailbroken iPhone.
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    Image of OCEntertainment OCEntertainment
    11/24/09

    In reply to The Best Smartphones on Every Carrier
    Honestly the CLIQ seems almost highway robbery at $100, compared with all the other Android phones out there. The more I see of the CLIQ, the less I like it. For myself, I can't stant the iPhone and I'd call an unlocked iPhone the best on T-Mo, if the CLIQ is its competition. The fact that it has 3G powers doesn't overshoot what the iPhone can do. Caveat: if the CLIQ is running Android 1.6, and thus qualifies for the new Maps app, then...maybe.

    Also: Droid for $150? Surprising and pleasing.
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    11/24/09

    @OCEntertainment: T-Mobile's phone prices should always be followed by a *. Side by side the $200 Cliq looks [LUDA]crous next to the $150 Droid, but the phone is more expensive because the plans are so much cheaper. On Verizon an equivalent all-you-can-eat plan costs about $40 more per month.
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    OCEntertainment promoted this comment fryhole was starred fryhole was unstarred
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    11/24/09

    @fryhole: Well, the CLIQ is actually $100 at the linked Wal-Mart site (if you don't mind dealing with the devil ;-)). But your point is well-taken.

    The thing to consider, though, is network quality. I've been pretty happy on T-Mobile for the most part. I don't get that great 3G reception in my house, but my building can account for a lot of that. When I travel Atlanta, I get pretty good 3G reception most of the time.

    However back when I was on Verizon and I took a trip around the U.S, I managed to get cell reception from underneath the Rocky Mountains. I traveled around 20 or 30 states, most of them drive-through states. I never lost reception. This may not be a typical need, but if you do a lot of traveling, or if you don't live in a (sub)urban area, that extra money may be more than worth it.
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    11/24/09

    @OCEntertainment: There's no arguing with Verizon's network (please stop trying AT&T). I too am a former red head, but left after they just wouldn't get any phones I could stomach carrying. Of course, back then, you could buy European phones and have them work just the same as US phones on the T-mo network.

    And if you think you have network beef with T-Mobile, try going to college in Iowa where local wireless provider (read:shittastly awful) Iowa Wireless provides all of the T-Mobile service in rural areas. Sprint and Verizon both have 3G here, but what does i-wireless have? Edge. Sometimes. Ahhh Iowa...how frontwards you are with technology.
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    11/24/09

    In reply to The Best Smartphones on Every Carrier

    I'm pretty sure the Samsung M520 is the best phone you can get on sprint.
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    11/24/09

    @Joey Joe Joe Junior Shabadoo: Um... The Rant is better than that thing.
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    11/12/09

    In reply to Why Aren't More People Talking About the Palm Pixi?
    In what way is Gizmodo "all over" the Pixi? Just search the site itself:

    Palm Pixi = 7 posts
    Droid Eris = 7 posts
    Droid = 20+ posts

    Besides, the biggest audience of consumers (i.e., people who just want a cheap new phone) don't care what the Internet thinks anyway; they'll just buy whatever's on sale at Best Buy or Walmart. #data
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    Image of Jacubious Jacubious
    11/12/09

    In reply to Why Aren't More People Talking About the Palm Pixi?
    It isn't eye candy.

    If you take a look at the Droid, Hero, Pre, HD2, they are all very sexy phones. While the Eris is pretty bland, you have more screen to jazz the phone up. With the Pixi, it just looks like a Pre that hit a midlife crisis and started to get bigger in all the wrong places.

    I would definitely blame the Eris search popularity on the Droid bit though.
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    11/12/09

    In reply to Why Aren't More People Talking About the Palm Pixi?
    ZZZzzzzzz.... what? #data
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    Image of Kaiser-Machead Kaiser-Machead
    11/12/09

    In reply to Why Aren't More People Talking About the Palm Pixi?
    Palm coulda been a contenda, but it didn't make quite an impact the first go, made your girly hands recoil in pain with its ginsu-knife edge, the iPhone continued to be more popular, Android started to matter more, and the on/off again crazy-stalker-boyfriend/girlfriend relationship with iTunes made it a little bit of a joke. It doesn't really do anything particularly special, it looks like Farnsworth's pressure pill, and its mama dresses it funny. The Pixi is like the last American Idol winner. What's his/her name again? Who gives a rat's gonads.
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    11/12/09

    In reply to Why Aren't More People Talking About the Palm Pixi?
    Wow, using the trend charts to determine which tech is more popular reminds me of the blu-ray vs. hd-dvd days. Only difference is that you actually acknowledge that some people can't spell (or spell correctly causing "blue-ray" to not show up on the charts) #data
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