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Good god, Really? Is this really a worthy article? GOD, you guys are SUCH APPLE WHORES!!!!! You are the "Fox News" of Gadget Blogs!!!!! "Unfair and Unbalanced"
I will take my Windows 7 and My Blackberry and pretend this did Article Never even happened........That is until the next Apple Stroking fiesta anyway!
I like how Rubenstein, who worked on the iPod, was poopoo'ing the device while cooking his own competitor up at Palm. That's not so much assclownery as much as sleight of hand on his part.
I suppose Anssi Vanjoki could still be correct, if, say, 5-10 years from now the iPhone is as esoteric as Macintosh computers in 1997. I love the iPhone now, but will it be relevant in 5 years time (the future iPhone, not this current one, which will be junk in a landfill or melted for scrap by then)?
Because if it was Steve Jobs laughing at some new competitor product that did work out later on, he'd be only defending his company.
It would be only a basic strategy for a competing company.
Moreso, it would be an intelligent way of marketing their own product, and even a bit "cool" and "ballsy".
Predictions are made all the time by all companies. Lots of them get it wrong.
In Ballmer's case here, like it or not, he had lots of good points there which are still valid today.
Is everyone retarded? He said it doesn't appeal to business customers; and he's generally right. business won't supply their staff with iphones because the keyboard DOES suck. It's a terrible phone, but a very cool PDA. You know how many times I've had to tell people borrowing my phone that 'they have to line their ear up with the pinhole'?
He SAID 'it MAY do very well' 'they have their strategy we have ours'
the iphone IS cool.. I use one; I'm not a 'business customer'... its a toy.
what should he have said? 'APPLE IS GOING TO KICK OUR A$$ with the iPhone!'
This interview does not qualify him as an 'assclown'... seriously; grow up.
@Lincolnsbeard33: You can't have sold a smartphone, winmo, iphone or whatever, to a current cell phone user who didn't buy a phone. The number of installed base of cellphones is meaningless.
The correct figure to consider is sales of new SMARTphones over the same period of time. In 2007, after launching in the second half, with limited supply, a high pricepoint, and only 1 carrier, Apple had a 28-percent share of sales, putting it behind RIM’s 41-percent but ahead of all Windows Mobile-powered smartphones that between them had 21-percent. (source [news.cnet.com]) So, if being second in sales, ahead of ALL winmo phone sales COMBINED is nothing, then Ballmer's strategy was an abysmal, unmitigated failure.
@ludwigk: excuse me??? Did you just say you can't sell a smartphone or whatever to people who didn't buy a phone??
What kind of stupid nonsense is that. Anyone who has a cell phone is a potential customer. If people decided to stick with their current cell phone because of price or what have you then it counts.
Plus it helps if you read the articles you are quoting BEFORE you post them so you don't look like a fool.
I thought this was a blog site, and i thought the fanboyism only was in the comments. I think Steve's points during the time it was stated were very correct and the iphone has changed a lot since that statement has been made. The iphone still lacks a lot of requirements that many business minded people need. So go on with your fanboyish ways, and keep "multitasking."
@knwldg: I think blogs are allowed to have fanboys, although I don't see how pointing how wrong all the CEOs were about Apple can be equated with fanboyism.
And the iPhone multi-tasks with Apple's native apps, you might not have heard. This is why you can answer a call, put someone on hold and open Safari for instance, or leave iPod playing in the background while you do other things.
@clak:
That is not really multitasking, that's just weak. You can use all of your programs while on a call on a windows phone also, but you can also use multiple "programs" at once.
You know, I always knew that Gizmodo loved Apple so much that ever blogger has a picture of Stevey above their beds but this is just ridiculous. LET IT GO. Yes, it's a good phone (Technically), yes it proved various people wrong, mainly due to its unexpected and odd producer origins but no means necessary is this the first time in history that someone made a prediction that did not come true.
Not to mention, all those high rank CEOs are COMPETITORS to Apple so why would they speak of one of their competitor's new products in high spirits and hopes? Because they know people read this junk on the web and if they're going to, it should at least be negativity on the product and not positivity, to make sure they can change the opinion of as many people as possible.
So what's next? Are you going to dedicate an entire article to Bill Gates on how he thought 640K of memory will be all the memory we will ever need in a computer? You probably should at this rate, seeing as the person that has made a mistake, has ties to an operating system called Windows so it should make for even greater material for you guys to make another lousy joke about it's crappiness despite Jobs also being a lousy fortune teller. COME ON, what are you waiting for, it'll surely bring in a lot of hits for the site and more angry viewers.
The iPhone is not the best selling or number one phone in the world.
As of Q4/ 2008 Windows Mobile still outsold the iPhone (do a search)
You also need to add to the mix RIM and all the new Android phones and in a near future WM7.
Where does it leave the iPhone at? ... As another phone, that's all. It suits some people and not some others. It's not the best selling or the number one in customer base/ total volume sold.
All these guy's share a common theme, old and out of touch. Being named CEO of a company doesnt mean you know everything and the product you represent is better than your competition. It should mean you keep your mouth shut and try your best to put out good product, not stupid quotes.
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I will take my Windows 7 and My Blackberry and pretend this did Article Never even happened........That is until the next Apple Stroking fiesta anyway!
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Is Phil an assclown too?
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How about when Jobs called Blu-Ray a bag of hurt? Let's see ... I think Blu-Ray has taken off this year.
Yeah, Jobs never pulls shit like that. He's a genius (that also happens to park in handicapped spots).
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I suppose Anssi Vanjoki could still be correct, if, say, 5-10 years from now the iPhone is as esoteric as Macintosh computers in 1997. I love the iPhone now, but will it be relevant in 5 years time (the future iPhone, not this current one, which will be junk in a landfill or melted for scrap by then)?
12/02/09
Um... how's Windows Mobile working out for you now Steve? Oh, and I owned a Q, and hated it from day 1.
12/02/09
because it would be impossible to find even a single ridiculous statement in a Giz article.
-_-
12/02/09
It would be only a basic strategy for a competing company.
Moreso, it would be an intelligent way of marketing their own product, and even a bit "cool" and "ballsy".
Predictions are made all the time by all companies. Lots of them get it wrong.
In Ballmer's case here, like it or not, he had lots of good points there which are still valid today.
12/02/09
He SAID 'it MAY do very well' 'they have their strategy we have ours'
the iphone IS cool.. I use one; I'm not a 'business customer'... its a toy.
what should he have said? 'APPLE IS GOING TO KICK OUR A$$ with the iPhone!'
This interview does not qualify him as an 'assclown'... seriously; grow up.
12/02/09
The Iphone didn't do good until they lowered the price. Even then the Iphone still isn't the highest selling buisness phone.
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And Ballmer didn't answer the question he was asked. He was asked how the iPhone would impact the Zune, not Windows Mobile.
He was wrong on all counts.
12/02/09
See it wasn't till the 3G came out and the price dropped that the Iphone sales started to actually rise.
as for the question it was "what was your reaction to the iphone" So you are wrong on both counts.
12/02/09
The correct figure to consider is sales of new SMARTphones over the same period of time. In 2007, after launching in the second half, with limited supply, a high pricepoint, and only 1 carrier, Apple had a 28-percent share of sales, putting it behind RIM’s 41-percent but ahead of all Windows Mobile-powered smartphones that between them had 21-percent. (source [news.cnet.com]) So, if being second in sales, ahead of ALL winmo phone sales COMBINED is nothing, then Ballmer's strategy was an abysmal, unmitigated failure.
12/02/09
What kind of stupid nonsense is that. Anyone who has a cell phone is a potential customer. If people decided to stick with their current cell phone because of price or what have you then it counts.
Plus it helps if you read the articles you are quoting BEFORE you post them so you don't look like a fool.
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And the iPhone multi-tasks with Apple's native apps, you might not have heard. This is why you can answer a call, put someone on hold and open Safari for instance, or leave iPod playing in the background while you do other things.
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Your first part is too funny to respond to.
For business people that is really not multitasking. I know they are trying to convey that in their new commercials, but that is weak.
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That is not really multitasking, that's just weak. You can use all of your programs while on a call on a windows phone also, but you can also use multiple "programs" at once.
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Not to mention, all those high rank CEOs are COMPETITORS to Apple so why would they speak of one of their competitor's new products in high spirits and hopes? Because they know people read this junk on the web and if they're going to, it should at least be negativity on the product and not positivity, to make sure they can change the opinion of as many people as possible.
So what's next? Are you going to dedicate an entire article to Bill Gates on how he thought 640K of memory will be all the memory we will ever need in a computer? You probably should at this rate, seeing as the person that has made a mistake, has ties to an operating system called Windows so it should make for even greater material for you guys to make another lousy joke about it's crappiness despite Jobs also being a lousy fortune teller. COME ON, what are you waiting for, it'll surely bring in a lot of hits for the site and more angry viewers.
12/02/09
They had their own opinion about it. Period.
The iPhone is not the best selling or number one phone in the world.
As of Q4/ 2008 Windows Mobile still outsold the iPhone (do a search)
You also need to add to the mix RIM and all the new Android phones and in a near future WM7.
Where does it leave the iPhone at? ... As another phone, that's all. It suits some people and not some others. It's not the best selling or the number one in customer base/ total volume sold.
Leave it at that.
I still don't get the point on this story.
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