@It's Segador's birthday and all he wants is a ★: It's a wash. They have to charge you, but they instantly re-imburse you. Unless they make you mail away for it, then it's a scam, just like rebates.
First, I am reasonably sure the advertising was paid for and not some geurilla hack.
Second, as much as I support environmental awareness, it seems that a great deal of the environmental activist and animal rights organizations are horribly hypocritical, petty, subversive and dangerous. The methods they employ and the tactics they endorse do more to harm their causes because they drive corporations away from supporting them and most people don't want to be associated with these mentally unstable whackjobs.
You wanna recycle, not eat meat and be kind to animals? Be my guest, but seriously, get the fuck away from my prime rib and 8" patent leather maryjane platforms.
Unfortunately, tampering with another person's property to get your point across probably isn't the best way to make the people on your side of the argument look good.
Oh wait, environmentalists have never looked good.
If Panny really wanted some decent PR, they could underwrite the Gizmodo Gallery. At the very least, they could provide the contractors necessary to install their behemoth.
yeah I saw a special on this on the CBC last week, kids were melting down motherboards with boiling acid to get at the gold solder, breathing in the fumes.
Apparently all the "green" e-waste recycling companies that you see in your cities, they all just straight up sell it to china and send it there in cargo ships.
@thedarkhorse: You can't say they ALL are and its better to know that you disposed it with a company that supposedly does the right thing instead of just dumping it in with the trash. =/
@thedarkhorse: You forgot about the liquid mercury they use. Mercury is great because heavy metals like gold 'stick' to it so it's really easy to get the gold out once you melt it. There's the minor problem of mercury poisoning. But hey as they say, people are cheap, metal is expensive.
This isn't a good situation for anyone working in these waste villages, but it's evidently the most lucrative one by far. If there's a better solution, what is it, and will it provide the workers with at least the same income? $12 a day may not sound like much but it goes a much longer way in rural China than it does here.
@Ethan Allison: There isn't much these people can do. These migrant workers used to be successful farmers. But they can't farm anymore. The way it usually works is
1) Farming becomes impossible. Either because the government, developer, etc takes over your land and MAYBE gives you some money (this is a big maybe too, lots of times you just get the snot kicked out of you by the Triads until you leave). Or the factories near or upstream from you have polluted the air and water so much that you're basically toast.
2) There's a high probability you can't read or write Chinese. You might even speak some obscure dialect that makes your job prospects pretty much nothing.
3) All you know is how to farm, since you probably didn't go to school.
So for these people, yes getting $8 a day melting off gold and silver with liquid mercury is well better than nothing. It just goes to show how bad 'nothing' can be for most people in the world. There aren't any social nets or organizations that even remotely care about the poor and destitute.
@jbhitter24: There are a lot of things you can do to help reduce electronic waste.
1) Find someone else to re-use the product. Whether it's an old monitor, or computer, or cell phone. You can donate cell phones to women's shelters so that they can dial 911. You can call up nursing homes or local charities and ask if they could use the hardware.
2) Over-buy a little. Sure you may not ever need that quad core 2.6 ghz cpu for 6 years, but it if keeps you from buying a new computer every 2 years and you pay an extra $400, why not? Then, go to step 1 when done. Why by an 8 gig iPhone when you'll probably want the 16 gig model in a year? Why buy a desktop and a laptop, when you could buy a laptop that is capable of serving in both capacities?
3) Research a reputable electronics recycling plant. Take it there.
4) Bring your own bags or skip the bag altogether when you go to Best Buy to buy something. Most of the time I'm guessing you've purchased maybe 2 items, and they're not bulky or heavy. Why waste yet another plastic bag? Same goes for groceries, bring your own bag.
5) If you're going out of town for a bit, unplug your electronics. Not only will you not have to worry about brown-outs/power surges damaging your equipment, but you don't pay for electricity use when you're gone. Just leave the DVR plugged in if you're worried about missing your latest episode of Queer as Folk.
Your old iPod can serve as a portable hard drive. Or, you can donate it to a kid who may not be able to afford an iPod, or give it to a niece/nephew, or relative, or send it to someone in the army stationed in Iraq.
Sure, not everything can be recycled, but you can do a lot to keep how much you pollute to a minimum. And maybe, just maybe, you'll offset that asshole who throws his plastic cigarette wrappers, and mcdonald's bags out the window.
I think this is more of our problem than China's. Yes, they're mishandling but we need to find another way to minimize our waste or recycle it here. The 60 Minutes piece was interesting. They went to a US recycling center that claimed they did not ship any waste overseas for recycling, and then 60M tracked one of their shipping containers. Even though it's illegal, the company shipped that container, full or CRT monitors, to Hong Kong. So it's not all China's fault.
@sbacon1999: Well, it goes back to basic consumerism. Some people would rather buy a new video card every year at the low end, and throw the old one away, than spend $400 and upgrade every 2-3 years instead.
They do this with cars, tv's, everything. When I hear about people saying they bought carbon offsets, I laugh. It isn't about polluting less, though that helps. It's about using as little as possible, reusing what you can, and recycling what you can.
It is just as important to use less as it is to use "green" items. It's why I laughed so damn hard when how much electricity Gore's house used. But, people said "It's all green, and he purchased carbon offsets for his private jet ride, and the jet was more efficient than the commercial airliner" Yadda. Sorry guys, it's about using LESS. Less energy, fewer resources, not finding ways to pay money to feel better about your faux eco-consciousness.
You can put CFL's in your house, but just not turning the lights on unless you need to uses far less electricity than your CFL does.
I don't drive a prius, I don't recycle absolutely everything, but then again I buy probably about 1/3 as much crap as the average consumer. When I buy something I buy high-end and keep it around for 5+ years.
@GrassJelly: Nah, he does a good job of educating people. He's just not a "do as I do" kind of person. I may not like the man, but I appreciate his efforts.
@Lite: poetic justice. Though it seems Chinese children are still exposed to more lead than American children... and not from playing with toys either.
When I "recycled" my cell phone, I was led to believe it would be given to a battered womens shelter to allow women in crisis to call 911 on. I asked because I care about Mother Earth. Sorry to know I was lied to.
02/24/09
I'm cnofused... they charge you $10, or you get a $10 gift card... or what...?
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Plant a seed, plant a flower, Plant a rose,
You can plant any one of those.
Keep planting to find out which one grows.
It's a secret no one knows.
It's a secret no one knows.
Oh, 'oes no one knows.
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Second, as much as I support environmental awareness, it seems that a great deal of the environmental activist and animal rights organizations are horribly hypocritical, petty, subversive and dangerous. The methods they employ and the tactics they endorse do more to harm their causes because they drive corporations away from supporting them and most people don't want to be associated with these mentally unstable whackjobs.
You wanna recycle, not eat meat and be kind to animals? Be my guest, but seriously, get the fuck away from my prime rib and 8" patent leather maryjane platforms.
Ok, sorry... done now.
11/25/08
Oh wait, environmentalists have never looked good.
My bad.
11/25/08
i'm pretty sure they just paid for the adspace, dude. if this was a hack it'd be a bigger story.
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who am I kidding - I'm going to replace it next year with a 46" LCD
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Apparently all the "green" e-waste recycling companies that you see in your cities, they all just straight up sell it to china and send it there in cargo ships.
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1) Farming becomes impossible. Either because the government, developer, etc takes over your land and MAYBE gives you some money (this is a big maybe too, lots of times you just get the snot kicked out of you by the Triads until you leave). Or the factories near or upstream from you have polluted the air and water so much that you're basically toast.
2) There's a high probability you can't read or write Chinese. You might even speak some obscure dialect that makes your job prospects pretty much nothing.
3) All you know is how to farm, since you probably didn't go to school.
So for these people, yes getting $8 a day melting off gold and silver with liquid mercury is well better than nothing. It just goes to show how bad 'nothing' can be for most people in the world. There aren't any social nets or organizations that even remotely care about the poor and destitute.
11/10/08
seriously, this is a worthy cause, and it's closely associated to gizmodo. make it happen!
11/10/08
1) Find someone else to re-use the product. Whether it's an old monitor, or computer, or cell phone. You can donate cell phones to women's shelters so that they can dial 911. You can call up nursing homes or local charities and ask if they could use the hardware.
2) Over-buy a little. Sure you may not ever need that quad core 2.6 ghz cpu for 6 years, but it if keeps you from buying a new computer every 2 years and you pay an extra $400, why not? Then, go to step 1 when done. Why by an 8 gig iPhone when you'll probably want the 16 gig model in a year? Why buy a desktop and a laptop, when you could buy a laptop that is capable of serving in both capacities?
3) Research a reputable electronics recycling plant. Take it there.
4) Bring your own bags or skip the bag altogether when you go to Best Buy to buy something. Most of the time I'm guessing you've purchased maybe 2 items, and they're not bulky or heavy. Why waste yet another plastic bag? Same goes for groceries, bring your own bag.
5) If you're going out of town for a bit, unplug your electronics. Not only will you not have to worry about brown-outs/power surges damaging your equipment, but you don't pay for electricity use when you're gone. Just leave the DVR plugged in if you're worried about missing your latest episode of Queer as Folk.
Your old iPod can serve as a portable hard drive. Or, you can donate it to a kid who may not be able to afford an iPod, or give it to a niece/nephew, or relative, or send it to someone in the army stationed in Iraq.
Sure, not everything can be recycled, but you can do a lot to keep how much you pollute to a minimum. And maybe, just maybe, you'll offset that asshole who throws his plastic cigarette wrappers, and mcdonald's bags out the window.
11/10/08
11/10/08
They do this with cars, tv's, everything. When I hear about people saying they bought carbon offsets, I laugh. It isn't about polluting less, though that helps. It's about using as little as possible, reusing what you can, and recycling what you can.
It is just as important to use less as it is to use "green" items. It's why I laughed so damn hard when how much electricity Gore's house used. But, people said "It's all green, and he purchased carbon offsets for his private jet ride, and the jet was more efficient than the commercial airliner" Yadda. Sorry guys, it's about using LESS. Less energy, fewer resources, not finding ways to pay money to feel better about your faux eco-consciousness.
You can put CFL's in your house, but just not turning the lights on unless you need to uses far less electricity than your CFL does.
I don't drive a prius, I don't recycle absolutely everything, but then again I buy probably about 1/3 as much crap as the average consumer. When I buy something I buy high-end and keep it around for 5+ years.
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