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At the risk of sounding like an old fogey, I say good - ban them outright! Camera phones should have been banned more strictly and in more places, but now it's nearly impossible to get a phone without a camera. Now who knows how many photos you're in, tagged or not - maybe automatically and retroactively so. The ubiquitous cameras in phones have all but killed privacy. While there was some expectation that anywhere outside your home was public, and subject to scrutiny, now you can't even open your blinds without being caught on video. God forbid you should do something clumsy or foolish or you'll be immortalized on the internet for it. Want to unwind at a party? It had better be a party of one, or you may find yourself posted online while drunk and unaware. Want to say something off the record? What does that mean - everything is on-record now.
So while I know it's a losing battle against fingernail sized spy cameras anyway, devices that are known to pack cameras where they're not needed should simply be disallowed in places like gyms... pools, theatres, public transportation, restaurants, and anywhere where there is not a legitimate use for them.
Banning video recorders from the gym is already ridiculous. If you don't want someone recording you walking around the locker room naked, then don't walk around the locker room naked. When I used to go to the gym, I'd take my clothes off in the shower and wrapped myself up in a towel on before I walked back to my locker. Then I'd hurry up change in my little area.
If you walk around with your junk flopping around, you're just asking everyone to look at you.
@Chris: that kind of specious reasoning is like saying any woman who walks around with a short skirt is just asking to be raped, and therefore it is justified.
also, i guess that means you're perfectly OK with having your picture taken during the time when you take your clothes off in the shower. because, hey, any time you're naked means you're giving everyone the A-OK to look at/record/post on the internet/laugh at your junk.
@willyolio: Like the other two that replied to your comment were saying, your analogies are way off. I said if you walk around naked, you're just asking everyone to look at you, but a short skirt is asking for rape? If anything it's also just asking for people to look at you.
And no, because if I was in the shower and someone was recording me, they would have to stand on a stool and peak over the top, or have to open up the curtain, and that, with or without a video recorder, will get you kicked out of a gym anyway.
If someone is recording people in the locker room, then they should get kicked out. But banning devices that can record videos is ridiculous in my opinion, and if you're so afraid someone will record and post your nads on the Internet, then try to cover up as much as possible. If you've ever been in a gym locker room, you know some people are fearless, and just walk around and hang out in there completely naked.
@Chris: many gyms, and most swimming pools i've been to don't have individual shower stalls. it's just a shower room.
so, with that in mind, you'd be ok if they recorded you in that situation?
also, the article already stated that they weren't banning the devices outright, but banning their use as recording devices.
and @everyone else: not saying "no" is the same as saying "yes." uh, yeah, that'll hold up in court. GET THIS IN YOUR HEADS, GUYS: nobody's "asking for" anything until they actually ASK for it.
@willyolio: If you're comfortable with showering naked in a room full of other guys, how can you be so upset if one of those guys takes a pic of your genitals? If you don't want people to see you naked, don't go naked in public. Period.
Gee, I guess they'll also frown upon my extra large cowboy hat with glass in the center. What next? Banning of the shoe cams? Wait. What? They're already banned? Well this is nucking futs!
@OCEntertainment: Dude, that's like uh.. like with PENCILS! Yeah like you have a No 2 pencil. Well eff that noise, cuz I've got a No 4 PEN! Double the numbers makes it better and stuff. So hop back on the treadmill but don't use that one, use the other one over there. You're blocking my view... of.. the water cooler.
Yeah, I used to work for Lifetime Fitness for several years.
Great club, but where ever there are naked sweaty people, there will be those who spend extra time in the locker rooms either A) trying to show off their naked sweatiness, or B) trying to glimps (or stare) at others' sweaty nakedness.
And regardless if you're homosexual or not, I doubt many people find old men blowdrying their balls for all to see, as something that is appealing.
@BucksterMcgee: It's bizarre how the older someone is the nakeder they tend to be in the locker room. I swear old people just walk around nude all day in there.
I proposed the theory that the reason the Touch didn't have a camera was that it was their highest price model, and it would mean that people that couldn't use cameras in certain places they wanted to use a PMP in would have to opt for the Touch. I was laughed at.
@LoganAdams: From 9/10/2009:
(12:18:40 PM) gitemstevedave: I had a theory on the lack of a cam on the ipod touch.
(12:19:27 PM) gitemstevedave: Many places don't allow devices with cameras, so why not make the most expensive model NOT have a camera, so people int hose situations will be forced to buy it.
(12:23:07 PM) Gizmodo Editor: you should drinking kerosene
(12:23:11 PM) Gizmodo Editor: stop
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@GitEmSteveDave_woot'sOffSoHard: Correct, if Optimus and Bumblebee transform down to a hurricane lamp in my shed to strike fear into the heart of moths everywhere.
@Jestermeister: I think a better answer would be to say "There's a reason that I'm on the BACK row of machines and that hot girl is in front of me.....now move so I can watch her better."
This has always been the reason I go to smaller gyms. I like a lot of people who lift weight like to record myself so I can watch my form and make sure I am lifting properly.
A smaller gym people know this and have no issues with it. Chain gyms? forget it.
@Pope John Peeps II: Not retarded. It's good for people who are lifting heavy and need proper form to prevent injury. I was a D1 athlete and continue to lift casually recording my workouts this very same way once a year to see if I've advanced or retarded (HOMONYM POWER!) any movement patterns. Come on man. You're smarter than that narrow minded comment.
@Pope John Peeps II: Um not at all. Even if you are a casual lifter doing it for the fitness benefits (like I do), the LAST thing you want to do is lift improperly.
And some of us just dont always have a "trainer" to watch us, nor does that always even help since doing it, and seeing you do it can open your eyes.
@Jim Topoleski: That's ridiculous. I lift weights too, and it's the simplest thing in the world to have proper form. Absolutely the simplest thing. If you have bad form, you can tell exactly where and exactly why because those muscles will feel it.
It's completely ludicrous to need to videotape your own body for such a simple movement. You aren't doing the high jump, or boxing. You're doing a curl. This is also the reason that every gym in existence has mirrors. So you can watch your own body just to make sure.
And right there, you in one statement proved you have no idea what N@tedog and I are talking about.
If you think "lifting" is doing a curl, then you need to read up on what a full-body lift is.
I have never done a curl in 5 years. I do regularly do sets of clean and jerks. I would never videotape myself doing a curl. But you bet your ass I am videotaping myself to check my clean form.
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So while I know it's a losing battle against fingernail sized spy cameras anyway, devices that are known to pack cameras where they're not needed should simply be disallowed in places like gyms... pools, theatres, public transportation, restaurants, and anywhere where there is not a legitimate use for them.
09/23/09
If you walk around with your junk flopping around, you're just asking everyone to look at you.
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also, i guess that means you're perfectly OK with having your picture taken during the time when you take your clothes off in the shower. because, hey, any time you're naked means you're giving everyone the A-OK to look at/record/post on the internet/laugh at your junk.
09/23/09
And no, because if I was in the shower and someone was recording me, they would have to stand on a stool and peak over the top, or have to open up the curtain, and that, with or without a video recorder, will get you kicked out of a gym anyway.
If someone is recording people in the locker room, then they should get kicked out. But banning devices that can record videos is ridiculous in my opinion, and if you're so afraid someone will record and post your nads on the Internet, then try to cover up as much as possible. If you've ever been in a gym locker room, you know some people are fearless, and just walk around and hang out in there completely naked.
09/23/09
so, with that in mind, you'd be ok if they recorded you in that situation?
also, the article already stated that they weren't banning the devices outright, but banning their use as recording devices.
and @everyone else: not saying "no" is the same as saying "yes." uh, yeah, that'll hold up in court. GET THIS IN YOUR HEADS, GUYS: nobody's "asking for" anything until they actually ASK for it.
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Have you verified this statement with SteveDave?
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@The Analrapist: Half Analyst Half Therapist:
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Great club, but where ever there are naked sweaty people, there will be those who spend extra time in the locker rooms either A) trying to show off their naked sweatiness, or B) trying to glimps (or stare) at others' sweaty nakedness.
And regardless if you're homosexual or not, I doubt many people find old men blowdrying their balls for all to see, as something that is appealing.
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Guys need to stop walking around naked and especially shaving in front of the mirror with no clothes on. C'mon what WTF is wrong with people.
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(12:18:40 PM) gitemstevedave: I had a theory on the lack of a cam on the ipod touch.
(12:19:27 PM) gitemstevedave: Many places don't allow devices with cameras, so why not make the most expensive model NOT have a camera, so people int hose situations will be forced to buy it.
(12:23:07 PM) Gizmodo Editor: you should drinking kerosene
(12:23:11 PM) Gizmodo Editor: stop
(12:23:11 PM) Gizmodo Editor: even
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@GitEmSteveDave_woot'sOffSoHard: Err, wrong flammable chemical there, GitEm. Gasoline makes you Optimus. Kerosene makes you Harry.
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A smaller gym people know this and have no issues with it. Chain gyms? forget it.
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that's retarded. Unless you're a competitive weightlifter. In which case, go get yourself a proper training area.
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And some of us just dont always have a "trainer" to watch us, nor does that always even help since doing it, and seeing you do it can open your eyes.
What is retarded is quite honestly, your comment.
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It's completely ludicrous to need to videotape your own body for such a simple movement. You aren't doing the high jump, or boxing. You're doing a curl. This is also the reason that every gym in existence has mirrors. So you can watch your own body just to make sure.
09/23/09
And right there, you in one statement proved you have no idea what N@tedog and I are talking about.
If you think "lifting" is doing a curl, then you need to read up on what a full-body lift is.
I have never done a curl in 5 years. I do regularly do sets of clean and jerks. I would never videotape myself doing a curl. But you bet your ass I am videotaping myself to check my clean form.