I am a producer in film and TV. We've worked with photographers who are also on our shoots. I don't know about the D300s' video but the 5D Mark II's video is really hard to work with. It isn't worth using for anything more than home videos. Most editing systems don't like working with the format that it shoots and the video can't be color corrected to match out other cameras as it is already precessed. There is no sounds input either so you have to post sync the sound and use a slate while shooting.
@cpthook: No he's right It doesn't capture wide-range raw colour (which kinda looks milky at first, but has far more information) so, yes you can technically color correct it but only the limited pre-colour-tweaked image you captured. You can't dig info out of the blacks and whites like you can with raw footage. And the file format is a serious pain to edit with.
I'd have to see the videos with a source quality a lot higher than youtube-stylee to see what is what...I saw lots and lots of artifacts even in the still areas that "weren't changing". We'll see how the reviews go.
@loslosbaby: I wouldn't judge any video quality from youtube's compression. I'd rather pop the raw video into VLC or Quicktime to judge it objectively.
Does anyone know how good the sound quality is on these DSLRs? Hopefully it's better than those point-and-shoots, where it sounds like everyone is eating a fistful of dicks.
I was extremely impressed by the Canon SD Mark II a while back...more than this Nikon. Although, I wonder how the new Canon EOS Rebel T1i measures up to the SD Mark II since they both shoot 1080p. (besides the megapixel count) Anyone who owns one care to weigh in?
@johnnyabnormal: I was "like what? SD Mark II" You mean 5D Mark II.
Basically for the short, look at the images of a APC-S and Full Frame, then kind of guess it off of that.
The 5D MKII has dual DiGiC IV processors, it's full frame (no 1.6x crop and larger sensor of course than the T1i), cheapest Canon Full-Frame, weather-sealed, 1080HD recording @ 30 FPS, very high end AF system, high FPS, very solid construction, etc and etc, the list goes on.
I own a 450D though, 500D's HD video is interesting but not worth the extra 400-500 dollars for it, I would rather be looking at 60D (rumored) instead (standard features of weather-sealing, more solid camera body, AF, etc etc for the x0D line, plus way better nicer kit lense).
@jasonliang: No, it is SD Mark II: Super Duper Mark Two...haha, just kidding. I would love to A/B video from both Canons out of curiosity. 30 FPS is sweet, but I don't know the FPS of the T1i.
The 500D offers true HD video capture at 1920 x 1080 pixels (1080P) at 20 frames per second or 1280 x 720 pixels (720P) at 30 frames per second. The built-in internal microphone captures mono audio. The audio quality is not fantastic and unfortunately there is no socket for an external microphone. There is a small built-in speaker for video playback in-camera.
The 5D Mark II will shoot video at ISO 12800, the T1i video maxes out at ISO 1600, and the D300s looks like it will shoot video at either ISO 3200 or ISO 6400. They are all different cameras intended for different parts of the market. The T1i is roughly half the cost of the D300S, which in turn is roughly half the cost of the 5D Mark II.
@waltercrm: Thanks. That's all really good info to know. Good thing I do audio for a living, so if I want stereo, 48k, 16-bit, super clean I can nail that no problem. It might be a bitch to sync later though...
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Basically for the short, look at the images of a APC-S and Full Frame, then kind of guess it off of that.
The 5D MKII has dual DiGiC IV processors, it's full frame (no 1.6x crop and larger sensor of course than the T1i), cheapest Canon Full-Frame, weather-sealed, 1080HD recording @ 30 FPS, very high end AF system, high FPS, very solid construction, etc and etc, the list goes on.
I own a 450D though, 500D's HD video is interesting but not worth the extra 400-500 dollars for it, I would rather be looking at 60D (rumored) instead (standard features of weather-sealing, more solid camera body, AF, etc etc for the x0D line, plus way better nicer kit lense).
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The 500D offers true HD video capture at 1920 x 1080 pixels (1080P) at 20 frames per second or 1280 x 720 pixels (720P) at 30 frames per second. The built-in internal microphone captures mono audio. The audio quality is not fantastic and unfortunately there is no socket for an external microphone. There is a small built-in speaker for video playback in-camera.
From another excellent review by: [www.dpreview.com]
The 5D Mark II will shoot video at ISO 12800, the T1i video maxes out at ISO 1600, and the D300s looks like it will shoot video at either ISO 3200 or ISO 6400. They are all different cameras intended for different parts of the market. The T1i is roughly half the cost of the D300S, which in turn is roughly half the cost of the 5D Mark II.
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