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    Image of GitEmSteveDave_HatesFriday GitEmSteveDave_HatesFriday
    11/18/08

    In reply to Falcon Northwest Mach V: Fastest PC Yet Runs Crysis at 60FPS
    While I do not know the actual frame rate the human eyes and brain can comprehend, isn't anything over 24fps overkill?


    That being said, someone help me apply these flame decals I got from my cereal box to my Dell. They will make it go faster.

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    Image of LuluTuditanus LuluTuditanus
    11/18/08

    @Git Em SteveDave loves this guy-->: i dont know about you SteveDave, but I can definitely tell the difference from 24 fps to 60 fps, things just are more silky smooth.
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    Image of GitEmSteveDave_HatesFriday GitEmSteveDave_HatesFriday
    11/18/08

    @LuluTuditanus: OK. Can you tell the difference between 40 and 60, or 50 and 60? I've never had the chance to test this out, so I welcome your answer.
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    11/18/08

    @Git Em SteveDave loves this guy-->:


    if you were to be averaging 24 FPS, some spots would be faster, some slower.


    those slower places would probably be high action areas, where you want the highest FPS....


    the higher FPS the better!

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    11/18/08

    @endless: I understand that, but if there is no way a human can tell the difference/perceive between 45 and 60 FPS, wouldn;t that be overkill?
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    Image of lpranal lpranal
    11/18/08

    @Git Em SteveDave loves this guy-->: as with anything in our wet, squishy, meatbox brainputers, there's a ton of variables here. assuming you were able to get a constant FPS of 24 (obviously its going to vary by person) that's around what it takes for discrete animation to be perceived as fluid motion. The problems are,


    1) i'm not sure whoever did the studies were gamers, or if they were even using videogames. It might be some kind of primitive animation wheel, or film (which is 24fps)


    2) some might not be able to distinguish beyond 24fps, but often times what you see in a game is actually far less then what's reported, it just gets averaged out over a couple seconds of sampling rate. "jitteryness" is easily perceptible even if the FPS stays high


    personally I can't see much difference once it sees the high 50s, but that's after a lifetime of staring at a computer screen. so much of these things are influenced by the observer's brain, it's really tough to put even a ballpark figure on it

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    Image of Suttin Suttin
    11/18/08

    @lpranal:


    You guys also forget that TV and movies have motion blur.

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    11/18/08

    @Suttin: Only thanks to Star Wars. Before then, they never added it to scenes.
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    11/19/08

    @Git Em SteveDave loves this guy-->: no that is a retarded statement btw, you can tell the difference of 24 and 60 fps like you can see the difference between 60 and 120 fps, the human eye has no fps limit because we don't see in frames per second.
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    11/19/08

    @Assassin_Kensei: I said that I understood that you could tell the difference between 24 and 60fps, which I could b/c it's nearly double the fps. I was just wondering if it was just as easy to tell a smaller increase, i.e. 10 fps, like the difference between 50 and 60fps. I can tell the difference between 24 M&M's and 60 M&M's, but between 50 and 60 is harder.
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    11/19/08

    @Git Em SteveDave loves this guy-->: Our senses work logarithmicly.
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    Image of Framewerk Framewerk
    11/18/08

    In reply to Falcon Northwest Mach V: Fastest PC Yet Runs Crysis at 60FPS
    Yea, It might look pretty in red. but its missing some crazy eyes that are on every alien ware case....wait thats why i didn't buy alienware this summer when i built my new computer


    **pets black aluminum server case with no lights or gay acrylic sides**


    Why would i want some flashy computer case? Its not like i can pick up girls by walking around holding it sayin "hey baby, its Ferrari red, wanna come back to my place and play crysis on it?" I'd rather spend the extra money and buy better pieces to go inside the case.


    Its like why would you spend spent 10,000 dollars to make your moms old accord to look good, when it would still get its ass handed to it by even a BMW 3 series?

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    Image of Kaiser-Machead Kaiser-Machead
    11/18/08

    @Framewerk: Agreed. For a computer case, I'm more about the imposing monolith look. No frills, just like...sitting there, powerful and humming away, possibly brooding skynet inside.
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    Image of Lite: hates Illinois Nazis Lite: hates Illinois Nazis
    11/18/08

    @Framewerk: Now now. Even gays wouldn't buy something as tacky as a case w/ an acrylic window and neon lighting.
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    Image of shenanigans shenanigans
    11/18/08

    In reply to Falcon Northwest Mach V: Fastest PC Yet Runs Crysis at 60FPS
    You heard right. This is true for a super high end PC. Even the build I have on my NewEgg wish list runs PAST this, and I don't even have the new i7 motherboard and CPU. If you're wondering, it's a dual quad core mobo, 2 quad cores at $1500 each, 16GBs of ram, 3 1GB ATI video cards, 1200 watt PSU, 5 26inch samsung lcds, 8 terabytes worth of harddrives, blu-ray burners etc. All strictly dedicated to motion graphics/ 3D work/ web design/development, and playing Call of Duty 4 with everything maxed obviously.
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    Image of vinnyr vinnyr
    11/18/08

    @shenanigans: Two words MMMMMAAAACCCCC PPPPPRRRRROOOOOO


    Mac pros are 8 cores! So stop showing off, first off your lying, you probably cant run three one gig ati chips + 2 quad cores + 16 gigs of ram with an 1200 Watt PSU. Plus 8 terabytes of data wont fit in a case, the most i have seen is 6 slots. So humm... that would make u a lier.


    Next time your going to lie, check your facts first.


    P.S. YOU LIED!

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    Image of ripfire ripfire
    11/18/08

    @vinnyr: I don't think his would be too far fetched. The 8 cores you can get an Intel mobo with Skulltrail chipset, 8TB of HD could be external (also taking the power out of the equation), and 1200W PSU is plenty.
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    Image of Project_J187 Project_J187
    11/18/08

    @vinnyr: Your actually right about the 1200 watt. It could be enough but the ATI card he is referring to requires two 6 pin plugs for each card. I have not seen a power supply with 6 6 pin leads.


    8 terabytes of data will easily fit in a case though. There are 1.5 TB drives, so 9 TB could find inside.

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    Image of Gann Gann
    11/18/08

    In reply to Falcon Northwest Mach V: Fastest PC Yet Runs Crysis at 60FPS
    Is Crysis really that good of a game?
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    Image of v0ice v0ice
    11/18/08

    @Gann:


    Great question. Why make a game where it's a big deal to have a machine capable of playing it as it was intended?

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    Image of m4ximusprim3 m4ximusprim3
    11/18/08

    @v0ice: A) It's really fucking fun


    @v0ice: Because it pushes hardware makers to innovate. Also, because it looks better than any game out with the graphics at 75%. You don't have to play it with everything pegged at 100% to get the benefit.

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    11/18/08

    @m4ximusprim3: whoops, first one was at gann.
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    Image of Gann Gann
    11/18/08

    @m4ximusprim3: I'm still waiting for B)
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    Image of Con Seannery Con Seannery
    11/18/08

    @Gann: I want X)
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    11/18/08

    @Con Seannery: You ever notice that XP (as in Windows XP) looks kinda like a corpse emoticon?
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    Image of Kaiser-Machead Kaiser-Machead
    11/18/08

    In reply to Falcon Northwest Mach V: Fastest PC Yet Runs Crysis at 60FPS
    And I would still reluctantly slap a Vista sticker on it.


    Sorry, I had no choice.

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    Image of Lite: hates Illinois Nazis Lite: hates Illinois Nazis
    11/18/08

    In reply to Falcon Northwest Mach V: Fastest PC Yet Runs Crysis at 60FPS
    Why would you want the SSD? Wouldn't it be cheaper to just get like 3 Raptor drives in a raid 5 setup?
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    Image of bucho54 bucho54
    11/18/08

    @Lite: Cheaper, not faster.
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    Image of ripfire ripfire
    11/18/08

    @bucho54: 3 Raptor drives in a raid 5 setup is not cheap.
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    11/18/08

    In reply to Falcon Northwest Mach V: Fastest PC Yet Runs Crysis at 60FPS
    What I don't get is that if you're this much of an enthusiast, why not just build it yourself?
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    Image of What The Geek What The Geek
    11/18/08

    @ripfire: you could probably build it for significantly less money too.
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    Image of Decaye Decaye
    11/18/08

    @ripfire: They do a very significant amount of hardware/software tweaks, too. At least, that's what they claim. I know that just throwing those parts into a fresh install won't hit 60FPS.


    Additionally, being a world-class gamer doesn't necessarily mean you're good with computers. Much to my chagrin, this mouth-breathing football player I used to know could consistently trounce me at Halo 2, but couldn't tell a stick of memory from a power supply to save his life. Or avoid his future of alcohol abuse and factory work.

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    11/18/08

    @Decaye: Soo how is he able to afford this machine in the first place??
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    Image of chantastic chantastic
    11/19/08

    @ripfire: There comes a point when your time is simply worth more than your money. If you are a lawyer or whatever making $300,000 a year, does it make sense to save $500 or even $1000 by building your own computer, which includes, ordering, building, installing the OS, tweaking, troubleshooting, etc?


    Note: I realize this applies only to a small amount of people. But Falcon NW and companies like them are all small shops. They don't need to sell many of these to come out ahead.

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    Image of ripfire ripfire
    11/19/08

    @chantastic: Actually, you have that the other way around. From what I've seen among rich folks, they have all the time in the world. Rich as in "Where the F do they get all that money?!" rich. They're the ones who has plenty of time to build and tinker toys like sports cars, fancy motorcycles and high end PCs.

    If professionals like lawyers making $300k/yr and doesn't have time to build one as you say, do you really believe they even have time to for that sort of entertainment? Sure they may buy one, but I wouldn't consider them "PC enthusiast". Chances are, they probably have a high end home theater with Wii or 360 and just likes to play games.


    My point is, buying something high-end right off the bat doesn't make you automatically into an "enthusiast".

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    11/18/08

    In reply to Falcon Northwest Mach V: Fastest PC Yet Runs Crysis at 60FPS
    Red paint for $500 bucks?! Are you kidding me??? They might as well throw in a mousepad for $250!
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    Image of DisposableInterloper DisposableInterloper
    11/18/08

    @ripfire:

    It's automotive quality. At least, it was the last time I bothered looking at Falcon Northwest, which was years ago.


    It costs a pretty penny to do, and fetches an even pretty penny from those that want.

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    11/18/08

    @DisposableInterloper: Two words: Powder Coating. Cheap!
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    11/18/08

    @ripfire: Oh wait. That's 3. Dammit!
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    Image of bosskev bosskev
    11/18/08

    In reply to Falcon Northwest Mach V: Fastest PC Yet Runs Crysis at 60FPS
    Yes, but will it run Cr


    oh wait


    Sorry. Wrong cliché.

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    Image of fredygamer fredygamer
    11/18/08

    @bsskv: LL! ws thnkng th sm thng.


    hmmm..

    Bt wll t blnd?

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    Image of The Lab The Lab
    11/18/08

    @fredygamer: This site has done well to avoid the plague of "first" posters. Let's band together and get rid of all mentions of "will it blend" and "will it run crysis". The world will be a better place for our combined efforts.
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    Image of Con Seannery Con Seannery
    11/18/08

    @The Lab: There is a rule in place regarding "Will it blend?", but it seems unenforced.
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    Image of Thats Dr Bear to You Thats Dr Bear to You
    11/18/08

    @Con Seannery: Tell that to fredygamer, looks like a little disemvoweling....
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    Image of bosskev bosskev
    11/18/08

    @Thats Dr Bear to You: "Tell that to fredygamer, looks like a little disemvoweling...."


    Yeah, somebody at Giz looks to be just a bit trigger-happy; either that or s/he hadn't noticed that fredygamer was just following my lead with a folllowup parody entry.


    Sorry, fredygamer, WE understood your joke.

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    Image of mrtallbones mrtallbones
    11/18/08

    @bosskev: no no, look carefully, fredygamer's post actually WAS disemvoweled, while yours wasn't.


    Will it blend rules aren't enforced. I think we're all guilty of posting it once.

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    11/18/08

    @mrtallbones: "...fredygamer's post actually WAS disemvoweled, while yours wasn't."


    Umm...yeah...I got that. Thus my apology to fredygamer for his getting singled out and busted for what appeared to me to have been a purposely satirical entry--just like mine was. Same (attempts at) humor. Different handling by Giz.


    It's not just the literal WORDS of a comment that bear scrutiny, it's also the CONTEXT which, in my entry and I believe fredygamer's as well, was PARODY.

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    11/18/08

    @bosskev: i didnt know. sry.
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    11/18/08

    @fredygamer: N nd fr n plg, ll s gd!


    [ insert these as desired: o e e o a a o o y a i o o ]

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    Image of P3nnst8r P3nnst8r
    11/18/08

    @bosskev: The perks of being star commenters i guess ;)
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