All I wanted to do was check the comments to see if anyone else with a 16 gb was having trouble and all there is on here is a bunch of people having a huge MS vs. Mac debate. Pitiful... #zune
@maven2k: well -I- havent gotten it to show up as there being an update for the 16gb.... thanks for the warning, i wont scroll down any further. haha #zune
@maven2k: i've got a bit of an update for you , and everyone else having problems getting it for the 16gb model. If you go into control panel and click "clock, language, and region" and then "change location" and change your location to Canada, then go into zune and have it search for updates again, it'll find 4.3 and let you install it. Afterwards just switch the region back to united states. #zune
@maven2k: That didn't work when i originally tried to update it. It just said that it was up to date with 4.1. Might be available for everyone now without any workaround though. #zune
@maven2k: I did. It just would say "searching for update" and then come up with "your device is up to date with version 4.1" who knows... at least we have the update now, haha #zune
Dear Microsoft,
my iPod Touch is on it's slow downfall (after it took a literal one when i dropped it) and i'm in need of a new PMP soon. I would love nothing more than to give you my money and buy one of your lovely Zune HD's, but since you think Mac owners only want iPods, you won't accept my money.
@switchblade saints: Thats not really the answer I was looking for, but thank you.
What I was wondering is if it did anything other than play music and surf the internet slowly? #zune
@Shawn Pero: First, darn near about everybody has a phone that has a flabillion apps. Second, they are set up to have an amazing app store with nothing but good apps. Just give it time. #zune
@im.thatoneguy2: I wasnt talking about the Zune30.
@brandizzle: I was wrong about the calculator, but all the other download apps except weather have 15 second ads plus load time. Which is kinda sad for 16 bit games.
@Cordfucious of Tech Clan: Space Battle 2... ads [www.youtube.com]
Texas Hold'em, AD's [www.youtube.com]
Shell Game of the Future also has ad's but I did not bother uploading a video to prove it. I collect MP3 player's and yes I do have a ZuneHD, it has a nice interface, but its over hyped. Also, personal attacks dont help your point at all.
@Kerfudle: : no personal attacks... but you do realize that you used the very YouTube videos that I spoke of. That holds no credibility. I have a ZuneHD 16 and I KNOW for a fact that there are no Ads on the games. #zune
I went to Best Buy to pick up a Zune HD yesterday and the one on display wasn't working. I asked if they had a working model I could play with to see if I like it and they responded "that thing isn't working again?!" but I decided I still needed it, so I had him pull one out for me, he walked me up to the counter, a cute girl goes to ring me up... I seem to have forgotten my wallet at home. That might be a sign, but I can't help but want to ignore it, if the planets align and all goes well, I'm still f#$@ing getting one. #zune
@Brandon Terrill: Nothing can survive the abuse that is "display model". I can't think of a single product I haven't seen beaten to death by the apathetic and bored poking masses. #zune
@dantheman12: Soon, they said November, and this update adds support for that. UPDATE: Just checked the App Marketplace, there are "Music" and "Racing" game sections now. I bet we'll see something in the next couple of days.
@telepheedian: We already know that Project Gotham racing and Audiosurf Tilt is on the way. BTW, if you have not already played Audiosurf on the PC then you NEED to try it. #zune
@S-Express: When you actually use the device, you'll notice that there are a lot of places where text is floating within view but not bound by the viewport. It's actually pretty cool. #zune
@jhofker: Oh come on guys, Kaiser is anything but a "tard" and it's just a personal preference thing. I like the weird text cut off thing and he doesn't. He is a Mac user anyway, and for some reason MS refuses to make the Zune software for him so he can't even have one anyway. #zune
@maven2k: Err, yeah. My point isn't that Kaiser is a 'tard' - it's that it's a silly notion to think that fixing the text cutoff thing is going to make everyone that hates the Zune instantly shut up. :-) #zune
@Thee Sea: Granted the issue applies to just about everything. Still, point is valid. Best not to jump on an update too quick if data integrity is important to you. #zune
Has it fixed the problem with WPA Enterprise and WPA2 Enterprise connectivity? I read around the Zune forums and someone said it didnt and I want to hear more. I go to the University of Florida (GO GATORS!) and my (former) Zune HD wouldnt connect to the network. If you look at the forums, a lot of people have this problem. Before my 30 day return period was up, I returned it for an itouch , which did not have the problem. I am not going back to the HD. #zune
@V I |Z U $!: If you wanted to be using it for connection to the internet you shouldn't have bought a Zune HD in the first place. It's meant to be solely a media player. #zune
I have a Zune 80 and the HD would be a nice upgrade....for music only.
I think the Zune HD fails at everything except playing music. I am happy with my itouch and I am glad I made the switch. I dont have to bring my laptop around if I want to do standard internet stuff on campus. I wouldnt have been able to do that with the Zune HD. #zune
@V I |Z U $!: "Fails at everything but playing music"
Uh, how exactly? Its video playback blows other PMP devices in its price range out of the water and it works beautifully when hooked up to my TV.
In fact, the only thing that makes the browser worse than mobile safari is the fact that the rendering wasn't as quick as it was on Safari, which is fixed this update. #zune
@Thee Sea: I read that the Zune HD and itouch support the same video formats. Hooking them up to a TV required to spend more money. Id rather plug my laptop to my TV via HDMI. Plus I would not want to watch any video on either device since the screen is too small to read subtitles or write down my professor's notes. Video conversion is also a hassle. #zune
@V I |Z U $!: Unless the video you're watching is horrible quality or the subtitles are crap from start it should be no problem on the Zune HD. I can read them just fine on my 120 gig. #zune
I hope that's not the only thing it fixes - iPhone 3.1 also disabled iPod controls when you double tapped the home button (except in certain instances). Let's find out.
@Tamar Weinberg: You can use the Settings to adjust what happens when you double tap the Home button. Perhaps your preferences were changed to something else?
@EBone: no, it's worse than that. It only gives you the quick iPod controls if it considers the music application to be open. This (largely) is only if music is already playing, or if the application was the last thing open before sleep set in.
It's particularly annoying if you like to listen to music while using apps that pause whatevers playing on startup.
@Tamar Weinberg: From what I herd from a friend (Have not tried it yet.) You can tap the center button on your headphones with mic to get it playing. BlueGeek is right about it only working when music is open. I agree it is a pain, I used to do that all the time on some apps where I didnt like their music. Now all it does for me when I try and play the music is exit the app.
@KTK1990: Assuming you have headphones with a mic. I don't so I can't test the theory.
@BlueGeek: Yes, exactly. And I've been 1. using the Apple discussion forums to complain (along with several others, most notably 1G iPod touch users who don't have volume controls on the device *at all*) and 2. using Apple's request form to tell them to revert to the previous featureset. I also sent a rather curt email to Steve Jobs and Paul Schiller because it angers me so much. I've been fighting for a universal app sound override Settings option since September 2008.
To @EBone, @kazinstrife (and even my new friend Spinny who can't see his own comment yet): Before firmware v3.1, if you double tapped the home button while an app was running, you'd get a pop-up of the iPod controls. If you double-tap now and fix it in the Settings menu, it exits OUT of the app and takes you to the music app. Not what I'm looking for.
@Tamar Weinberg: I just tried it. Pushing center stops the game music and plays the song. But when your done, you just hear nothing. Using a 64 gig touch I purchased yesterday.
Also, all new ipods touches (g3 i know, not sure of the 8 gig), and iPhones come with the headphone with mic and volume controls.
@yardameus: Not sure about that as explained by the others in this discussion. I have General Settings Home to direct to iPod, but double tapping the home button does NOT give you iPod controls (that is, the little pop-up that isn't intrusive and is probably the only multitasking feature that exists on the iPod/iPhone). It actually exits out of the app you're running and takes you to the music, which defeats the purpose.
The problem for me is when I am running a game and want to at least have control of my music. If the game is running and the game is set to automatically turn off my music, I have no way of getting the music app again via double-tapping. And that issue is even worse for people who are running 1st gen touches because they have no access to volume control at *all*.
It's a real shame that Apple doesn't care to address this and even removed its functionality with the 3.x firmware.
@KTK1990: Maybe I need to check out those headphones. But I'm doubting it will address what is needed -- and that is, to get the iPod controls when an application actually turns off the music app.
@Tamar Weinberg: Maybe this is late for this thread, but I've found that doing a quick "lock", then double tap home, lets you see the iPod controls. Then, once you're playing what you want, unlock and resume what you were doing. Works for me.
Make sure Settings - General - Home has "iPod" selected and "iPod Controls" set to On.
@Auhim: I'm not sure what you're doing here but once a game interrupts your music that is currently playing, nothing -- not a quick lock or anything -- will restore iPod controls. And yes, I tried your solution to no avail. #iphoneos312
@Tamar Weinberg: Well, these have certainly been some delayed replies.
For me it's a double tap while the iPhone is still locked. That always brings up basic iPod controls for me no matter what's happening (or not happening) on my iPhone. Just previos/play/pause/next and, if something's playing, the basic track info.
This even works when I'm in, say, Tap Tap Revenge.
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I was about to send this above reply when I decided to verify. It does work when I'm in the menu of Tap Tap Revenge, but not during gameplay. However, although TTR took control of the audio, once I exited to the TTR menu out of the gameplay screen, I could then lock, double-tap home, and click play once again.
So the only time this doesn't work is when a game is actively taking over the audio. It works fine once a game lets go, sometimes without exiting the app, and you don't have to re-open the iPod app to get it to work after something else has stopped your playback. #iphoneos312
So there really is a recognized sleep issue! Wow, I thought I was crazy. I have to do hard resets of my iPhone at least twice a week, if not more, because it won't wake back up.
@Eruanno: I have no idea what they're talking about either. Haven't seen any problems so far. Well, aside from the fact that it sometimes loses the 3G connection even though it has good reception... Turning 3G off and then on again takes care of that btw.
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my iPod Touch is on it's slow downfall (after it took a literal one when i dropped it) and i'm in need of a new PMP soon. I would love nothing more than to give you my money and buy one of your lovely Zune HD's, but since you think Mac owners only want iPods, you won't accept my money.
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How about you buy one and stop relying on you tube reviews for your intel. You are making a fool of yourself with every comment. #zune
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Texas Hold'em, AD's
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Shell Game of the Future also has ad's but I did not bother uploading a video to prove it. I collect MP3 player's and yes I do have a ZuneHD, it has a nice interface, but its over hyped. Also, personal attacks dont help your point at all.
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I have a Zune 80 and the HD would be a nice upgrade....for music only.
I think the Zune HD fails at everything except playing music. I am happy with my itouch and I am glad I made the switch. I dont have to bring my laptop around if I want to do standard internet stuff on campus. I wouldnt have been able to do that with the Zune HD. #zune
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Uh, how exactly? Its video playback blows other PMP devices in its price range out of the water and it works beautifully when hooked up to my TV.
In fact, the only thing that makes the browser worse than mobile safari is the fact that the rendering wasn't as quick as it was on Safari, which is fixed this update. #zune
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@BlueGeek: Yes, exactly. And I've been 1. using the Apple discussion forums to complain (along with several others, most notably 1G iPod touch users who don't have volume controls on the device *at all*) and 2. using Apple's request form to tell them to revert to the previous featureset. I also sent a rather curt email to Steve Jobs and Paul Schiller because it angers me so much. I've been fighting for a universal app sound override Settings option since September 2008.
To @EBone, @kazinstrife (and even my new friend Spinny who can't see his own comment yet): Before firmware v3.1, if you double tapped the home button while an app was running, you'd get a pop-up of the iPod controls. If you double-tap now and fix it in the Settings menu, it exits OUT of the app and takes you to the music app. Not what I'm looking for.
See the YouTube video above for an explanation.
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Also, all new ipods touches (g3 i know, not sure of the 8 gig), and iPhones come with the headphone with mic and volume controls.
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The problem for me is when I am running a game and want to at least have control of my music. If the game is running and the game is set to automatically turn off my music, I have no way of getting the music app again via double-tapping. And that issue is even worse for people who are running 1st gen touches because they have no access to volume control at *all*.
It's a real shame that Apple doesn't care to address this and even removed its functionality with the 3.x firmware.
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Make sure Settings - General - Home has "iPod" selected and "iPod Controls" set to On.
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For me it's a double tap while the iPhone is still locked. That always brings up basic iPod controls for me no matter what's happening (or not happening) on my iPhone. Just previos/play/pause/next and, if something's playing, the basic track info.
This even works when I'm in, say, Tap Tap Revenge.
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So the only time this doesn't work is when a game is actively taking over the audio. It works fine once a game lets go, sometimes without exiting the app, and you don't have to re-open the iPod app to get it to work after something else has stopped your playback. #iphoneos312
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