Hate to rain on the hybrid hate parade but there are a bunch of myths about the Prius being "bad for the environment," which have been debunked here: [www.pacinst.org]
For example, hybrid haters often slag the Prius because some of the nickel used in its batteries comes from a Canadian nickel mine. The same nickel mine that opened in the early 1900s and supplies nickel for the steel industry to create chrome.
Other than its batteries, for which Toyota pays $200 per battery to recycle them, the Prius is a regular car. So if its manufacturing creates CO2, then so do other regular car factories.
It's interesting to me, too, that you don't see and read the same nastiness about other hybrid cars like the Ford Fusion and Escape hybrids. Why is that?
"The sage derivative's leaves have unique characteristics that absorb harmful gases..."
Yeah it's called photosynthesis. I learned about it in the 3rd grade. If you really want to help reduce carbon levels... kill a Vegan. They're the ones that are eating all of the plants that change CO2 into Oxygen (hee hee hee...plant shit). Carnivores like me are doing our best to reduce the CO2 producers, thereby lowering the overall "harmful gases" that get released into the air. #prius
Marking the 10 year anniversary of the extinction of the hummingbird, sources now indicate that the sting from bees, as well as the honey they produce, are now 150% more lethal to the human body, as the Toyorchid, Toyota's genetically-engineered pollution-absorbing flower species, invades the habitats of now endangered species of natural wildflower.#prius
@closhedbb: No, you're completely right. It was built by a guy who lives in some clouds, seemed to pay an incredible amount of attention to what he was doing thousands of years ago, only to be bored with us now, and we can't meet him unless we believe the right things and then die. Magic is a much more reasonable explanation than millions of years of mutation.
@closhedbb: Yes, because I didn't make it, it's magic.
The universe doesn't need an intelligent designer, and the overwhelming body of evidence for evolution is convincing. "Wonderfully organized" etc... you're anthropomorphizing. You're designer is simply the universe and time.
@nbolmer: I love how absolutely none of you know what I believe, but felt free to fill in the blanks based on past whack jobs you've encountered.
Where's the rationality in that?
Take a look at yourselves for a second. After all the ideals of tolerance I've seen people profess on this site, a person says something which you believe looks like an opposing dogma, and you jump on that person like they've just slapped your mother.
@closhedbb: So basically you are saying you were intentionally vague to get a rise out of the other posters. Thank you, just in case it wasn't already clear, you have more or less defined "troll".
Science taught us to explain our assertions or be ignored.
@closhedbb: No, science teaches us that if I slap your mother and she falls down, more people will have to slap her too and see if she falls down before someone can claim slapping her makes her fall down.
There's no opposing dogma, because dogma is a mindless position held by those who do not think for themselves. There's no tolerance because science does not exist to coddle whoever makes unsubstantiated claims just because they have the 1st amendment right to do so. Smart people are soooo tired of having to battle trolls of various denominations, that there is no patience anymore. The first word that sounds like idiocy will get the attack. Next time, if you are trying to be sarcastic, remember that humans didn't evolve to read emotions through typed text. Good writers have to work hard at it. And if you're NOT trying to be sarcastic, remember to post elsewhere.
@Dahamma: And once again demonstrated that a troll is not defined by what the troll says, but by how others react.
Nothing I could have said could have forced anyone to get defensive or offensive.So who is responsible for the troll, the original commenter, or the ones who reply? Kind of a play on "who's the greater fool? The fool, or the fool who follows him?"
@closhedbb: "And once again demonstrated that a troll is not defined by what the troll says, but by how others react."
easy to say when you're the troll
@closhedbb: "Kind of a play on "who's the greater fool? The fool, or the fool who follows him?""
No, more like a half-witted excuse for a dim-witted original assertion. A forum's purpose is to generate discussion; which you found yourself on the losing end of. Whether or not you intended the outcome (which actually defines trolling), isn't somehow exculpatory.
I mean, it's like you run around shouting idiotic racial epithets, and onlookers tell you what an idiot your are, only for you to rebuke with "a-ha! I knew that's how you'd react! Aren't I clever for purposely baiting your reactions!"
However, all I see when I read your reply is "Look at me! Look at me! I have a Psychology degree... nay... DEGREES! Aren't I CLEVER for causing a COMPLETELY PREDICTABLE exchange!? Did I mention LOOK AT ME!?"
In sum, you're not only a troll, but a troll who actually believes they're being clever, which really, is more pathetic than the trolling.
@closhedbb: Now class, here we can see the evolutionary stages of the troll:
First: A Classic Troll provocation post with a clearly implied subtext that will get a response.
Second: The Disingenous Troll counter-response, attacking posters for enaging him on the viewpoint implicit in the original poll. "Oh, you wicked commenters, you can't possibly know what my opinions are because I didn't clearly state them in my post. I never explicitly said that evolution is bunk and God made it all. I never even said I believed in God. Did I?"
Third: The Concern Troll. "I thought Giz readers were better than this. How intolerant of you to engage in debate, especially in response to obvious inferences from my original comment." This is the most mature stage of the troll. Instead of tackling arguments against the troll, it creates a situation where just making the argument itself is a transgression of "tolerance" (as posited by the troll).
Science doesn't teach "us better than that". Science teaches one to attack the weaknesses in hypotheses, to only allow to stand those theories which have withstood rigorous testing against all demonstrable fact. That is why our understanding of the technical mechanisms of evolution is always changing as we learn more. That is also why theological philosophies stopped playing a role in natural science in the late 17th century (when the modern scientific method replaced simple experimentation) - they were in no way based on empirical evidence.
If you're gonna poke the tiger, don't act surprised when the tiger turns around and roars at you.
@closhedbb: So, just to recap: 1: Inflammatory statement. 2: When people start to debate you, tell them you don't really believe that, and it was all just a plan to piss people off. 3: Tell everyone who replied to you that you're superior to them because you read a psychology book, and this was all to demonstrate that the troll isn't what makes these threads a pile of shit, it's the people who reply to the troll.
It's like you think you're Andy Kaufman or some shit, and you just pulled the prank of all pranks here. But really, you're a smug, self-satisfied prick who can't acknowledge when he's been beaten.
Unless you're a twelve year-old kid or something. Then, nicely done.
@closhedbb: So, wait. Let me get this straight. The "irony" of all this is... give me a moment... the "irony" is that you were doing exactly what we all though you were doing? Was Alanis Morissette your literature professor?
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For example, hybrid haters often slag the Prius because some of the nickel used in its batteries comes from a Canadian nickel mine. The same nickel mine that opened in the early 1900s and supplies nickel for the steel industry to create chrome.
Other than its batteries, for which Toyota pays $200 per battery to recycle them, the Prius is a regular car. So if its manufacturing creates CO2, then so do other regular car factories.
It's interesting to me, too, that you don't see and read the same nastiness about other hybrid cars like the Ford Fusion and Escape hybrids. Why is that?
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@REO Speedwagon: Soylent green is...PEOPLE!!! #prius
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Quick, plant them around Hollywood and any place that George Clooney is giving an acceptance speech! #prius
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Yeah it's called photosynthesis. I learned about it in the 3rd grade. If you really want to help reduce carbon levels... kill a Vegan. They're the ones that are eating all of the plants that change CO2 into Oxygen (hee hee hee...plant shit). Carnivores like me are doing our best to reduce the CO2 producers, thereby lowering the overall "harmful gases" that get released into the air. #prius
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"Eat a steak, save the planet" #prius
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Yup, especially since a significant amount of methane gas is produced by those sinful, godless cows. #prius
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Marking the 10 year anniversary of the extinction of the hummingbird, sources now indicate that the sting from bees, as well as the honey they produce, are now 150% more lethal to the human body, as the Toyorchid, Toyota's genetically-engineered pollution-absorbing flower species, invades the habitats of now endangered species of natural wildflower. #prius
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Yep, must have come about by pure random chance...
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If anyone out there actually believes it the way you just said, I'd side with you and call them Nucking Futs anyway.
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The universe doesn't need an intelligent designer, and the overwhelming body of evidence for evolution is convincing. "Wonderfully organized" etc... you're anthropomorphizing. You're designer is simply the universe and time.
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Where's the rationality in that?
Take a look at yourselves for a second. After all the ideals of tolerance I've seen people profess on this site, a person says something which you believe looks like an opposing dogma, and you jump on that person like they've just slapped your mother.
I thought science taught us better than that...
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Natural Selection is NOT random.
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Uncharacteristic of me, I know.
Also, I couldn't agree with you more.
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Science taught us to explain our assertions or be ignored.
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There's no opposing dogma, because dogma is a mindless position held by those who do not think for themselves. There's no tolerance because science does not exist to coddle whoever makes unsubstantiated claims just because they have the 1st amendment right to do so. Smart people are soooo tired of having to battle trolls of various denominations, that there is no patience anymore. The first word that sounds like idiocy will get the attack. Next time, if you are trying to be sarcastic, remember that humans didn't evolve to read emotions through typed text. Good writers have to work hard at it. And if you're NOT trying to be sarcastic, remember to post elsewhere.
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Nothing I could have said could have forced anyone to get defensive or offensive.So who is responsible for the troll, the original commenter, or the ones who reply? Kind of a play on "who's the greater fool? The fool, or the fool who follows him?"
Must be my Psychology degrees kicking in...
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easy to say when you're the troll
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No, more like a half-witted excuse for a dim-witted original assertion. A forum's purpose is to generate discussion; which you found yourself on the losing end of. Whether or not you intended the outcome (which actually defines trolling), isn't somehow exculpatory.
I mean, it's like you run around shouting idiotic racial epithets, and onlookers tell you what an idiot your are, only for you to rebuke with "a-ha! I knew that's how you'd react! Aren't I clever for purposely baiting your reactions!"
However, all I see when I read your reply is "Look at me! Look at me! I have a Psychology degree... nay... DEGREES! Aren't I CLEVER for causing a COMPLETELY PREDICTABLE exchange!? Did I mention LOOK AT ME!?"
In sum, you're not only a troll, but a troll who actually believes they're being clever, which really, is more pathetic than the trolling.
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First: A Classic Troll provocation post with a clearly implied subtext that will get a response.
Second: The Disingenous Troll counter-response, attacking posters for enaging him on the viewpoint implicit in the original poll. "Oh, you wicked commenters, you can't possibly know what my opinions are because I didn't clearly state them in my post. I never explicitly said that evolution is bunk and God made it all. I never even said I believed in God. Did I?"
Third: The Concern Troll. "I thought Giz readers were better than this. How intolerant of you to engage in debate, especially in response to obvious inferences from my original comment." This is the most mature stage of the troll. Instead of tackling arguments against the troll, it creates a situation where just making the argument itself is a transgression of "tolerance" (as posited by the troll).
Science doesn't teach "us better than that". Science teaches one to attack the weaknesses in hypotheses, to only allow to stand those theories which have withstood rigorous testing against all demonstrable fact. That is why our understanding of the technical mechanisms of evolution is always changing as we learn more. That is also why theological philosophies stopped playing a role in natural science in the late 17th century (when the modern scientific method replaced simple experimentation) - they were in no way based on empirical evidence.
If you're gonna poke the tiger, don't act surprised when the tiger turns around and roars at you.
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It's like you think you're Andy Kaufman or some shit, and you just pulled the prank of all pranks here. But really, you're a smug, self-satisfied prick who can't acknowledge when he's been beaten.
Unless you're a twelve year-old kid or something. Then, nicely done.
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I need to know for my next physical. "Doctor, I need you to check my ani."
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Sunflower?
Buttflower.
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