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    MPAA Shuts Down Entire Town's Wi-Fi Over Single Illegal Download

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    Image of BeyondtheTech BeyondtheTech
    11/13/09

    In reply to MPAA Shuts Down Entire Town's Wi-Fi Over Single Illegal Download
    To the douchebag that downloaded and watched "From Justin to Kelly," I hope it was worth it. #wifi
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    Image of bagellord bagellord
    11/13/09

    In reply to MPAA Shuts Down Entire Town's Wi-Fi Over Single Illegal Download
    From what I saw on slashdot the town took it down voluntarily and that the title of the article was just misleading. #wifi
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    Image of vlatro vlatro
    11/13/09

    @bagellord: Yeah a small town in a budget crunch, run by elected officials would rather voluntarily comply than face a court order. No surprises there.

    Here's the real issue. Over free, public wifi networks, it's virtually impossible to find out who is committing the piracy. The MPAA is scared sh*tless that the trend towards public municipal networks like those proposed for big cities (New York, L.A., Las Vegas etc), some of which are currently under construction, will provide a safe haven for pirates, shielding them from any legal actions.

    So we look at the MPAA's playbook. Find the most vunrable target and bring charges. Get a compromise ruling from a low level judge and build on the precident set by that case. This buys some time while they push for legislation requiring users of a public network to register to access the service, making them easier to ID.

    Small town with only a few users... They have an ideal target there. The town officials decided to fall on this grenade for the rest of us. They'll comply with requests and back down from the fight, keeping it out of the courts for as long as they can. Rather than fight back through the courts, (where they may very well lose), they'll stall long enough to wage a PR war. Once the public is sufficiently outraged and the local jury pool influenced, their poised to win any legal battle. The MPAA will back down, declaring it a victory for themselves, but in reality, they won't get what they want. #wifi
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    Image of Twilightred Twilightred
    11/15/09

    @vlatro: Well said. The precedent this sets is frightening; a public, government entity has been coerced by a private organization into making decisions with public resources that are beneficial to said organization. #wifi
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    Image of Voyou_Charmant Voyou_Charmant
    11/13/09

    In reply to MPAA Shuts Down Entire Town's Wi-Fi Over Single Illegal Download
    Meanwhile teabaggers and Becktard "conservatives" are crying about their fear of "big government".

    While industry cabals and multinational corporations hire think analysts and consultants to find new and exciting ways to figuratively, if not literally rape every man, woman and child. And, as corrupt and inefficient as it can be, "big government" is the only thing that comes close to stopping them. And in this case, it seems to have failed.

    What I don't understand is why the city would listen to the MPAA at all. What terrible precedent does this set? Who gave the MPAA this sort of power over government?

    Furthermore. How does the MPAA actually know about the download? There is zero information concerning how the MPAA became aware of the download. #wifi
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    Image of OCEntertainment OCEntertainment
    11/13/09

    @Voyou_Charmant: You get a heart click solely for introducing me to the word "Becktard". Good on you, sir. #wifi
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    11/13/09

    In reply to MPAA Shuts Down Entire Town's Wi-Fi Over Single Illegal Download
    Man, anybody read the original article? Full of such gems as:

    "The MPAA focuses most of its efforts on catching the source of the [pirated] movies." -- Heh, sure.

    ""We target piracy at its source," she [the VP of corporate communications for the MPAA] said. "We really focus on keeping the product out of the market in the first place."" -- I'll say.

    "LaVigne has done some homework and found a program that would prevent the illegal downloads from happening in the future; however, it would cost the cash-strapped county about $2,900 to implement, $2,000 for equipment and then $900 annually for the filtering program." -- I'm sure that's a sacrifice the MPAA is more than willing for you to make.

    Good read if you wanna see what everyone else outside our little tech circle is hearing. #wifi
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    11/13/09

    In reply to MPAA Shuts Down Entire Town's Wi-Fi Over Single Illegal Download
    @Varash:
    @Kirkaiya:
    @not_a_virus.exe.vbs:
    The MPAA don't have the power to do this, likely they just bullied the administration into doing it. They don't have the ability to actually pull the plug though. If the town administration stood up to them and said no this wouldn't have happened. #wifi
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    Image of AmphetamineCrown AmphetamineCrown
    11/13/09

    @Odin: I was wondering if anyone else followed the links back. This seems like the MPAA notified the admin about the illegal download and the town shut the thing down. It said nothing about the MPAA filing suit or threatening the town in any way. Of course, it doesn't say the opposite either, and maybe the MPAA did threaten them, but for the reasons pointed out in many comments below, even a fresh-out-of-law-school lawyer is going to figure out that such a threat is a monumentally weak case.

    As much as I like Boing Boing, and as much as I hate the MPAA, this strikes me as a very misleading article. #wifi
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    Image of UnderLoK UnderLoK
    11/13/09

    @AmphetamineCrown: All the letter says is to cease and desist immediately. Not that I would know... It's not like I have received a few... I just know a guy who knew a guy that did. #wifi
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    Image of Identity (Metric) Identity (Metric)
    11/13/09

    In reply to MPAA Shuts Down Entire Town's Wi-Fi Over Single Illegal Download
    Killing the entire MPAA (and I guess I can throw in the RIAA too) sounds awfully fine right about now. Does anyone want to round them all up so I don't have to go chasing them? #wifi
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    Image of comrade_leviathan comrade_leviathan
    11/13/09

    @Identity (Metric): Just imagine how much easier podcasting would be if all you had to do to obtain music rights was find the artist's agent! #wifi
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    Image of Identity (Metric) Identity (Metric)
    11/14/09

    @comrade_leviathan: That sounds like a dream come true! #wifi
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    Image of Benguin Benguin
    11/13/09

    In reply to MPAA Shuts Down Entire Town's Wi-Fi Over Single Illegal Download
    Why not go the extra step and shut down the electric grid for providing the power to run the computer to download said movie?

    Unless he used a laptop with solar panels...

    Alright everybody, time to shut down the sun. #wifi
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    Image of not_a_virus.exe.vbs not_a_virus.exe.vbs
    11/13/09

    In reply to MPAA Shuts Down Entire Town's Wi-Fi Over Single Illegal Download
    How is a private company able to do this to a public utility? What am I missing? #wifi
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    Image of UnderLoK UnderLoK
    11/13/09

    @not_a_virus.exe.vbs: They can't, they didn't, and you are missing something. ;)

    Read the article linked in the one on Boing... They got a letter telling them to stop sharing the movie and in response the owner shut it down.
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    Image of met2art met2art
    11/13/09

    @not_a_virus.exe.vbs: What you are missing are the facts that boingboing neglected to mention. The MPAA didn't actually shut the town's wi-fi down. The town chose to shut it down voluntarily after hearing from the MPAA. It is still a shitty situation, but the town probably wants to think things over and try to avoid further problems before they go "live" again.

    We must not forget, as cool as he may be, Cory Doctorow (and boingboing) is prone to the most extreme hyperbole that the universe has ever witnessed, ever. #wifi
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    Image of Kirkaiya Kirkaiya
    11/13/09

    In reply to MPAA Shuts Down Entire Town's Wi-Fi Over Single Illegal Download
    Aside from really wanting a super-router like the one in that photo, this article really makes my blood boil. How is that the MPAA (or RIAA, etc) can have legal authority to block access to so many people, based one person's illegal activity? If I were the townspeople, I'd try suing the MPAA - that would be a nice change!

    And - worse - doesn't this just open the door to a new form of vandalism, where bored miscreants with laptops can drive around any town (or airport, whatever) with free WiFi, and *intentionally* download something, with the intent of pissing off the entire town.

    In fact... I have a car. And a laptop. And those people over in Shelbyville really suck!
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    Image of JesusDeSaad JesusDeSaad
    11/13/09

    @Kirkaiya: Actually that's a very valid point.

    Even better,
    People around the states should start downloading stuff in wireless networks around MPAA and RIAA people.

    Make the downloads extra nasty in content to sic cops on them too! #wifi
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    Image of Nathan Obbards Nathan Obbards
    11/13/09

    In reply to MPAA Shuts Down Entire Town's Wi-Fi Over Single Illegal Download
    Please tell me it was a worthwhile movie at least and not one of Sony's many doozies. #wifi
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    Image of Lee Millar Lee Millar
    11/13/09

    @Nathan Obbards:

    It was a Hannah Montana movie! #wifi
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    Image of badhatharry badhatharry
    11/13/09

    @Lee Millar: Totally worth it. #wifi
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    Image of frigg frigg
    12/10/08

    In reply to Beijing to be World's Largest Wi-Fi City in 2011
    I bet China will pull this off. But I wouldn't be surprised if they substitute a cuter wireless network to be the public face of wi-fi at the last minute.
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    Image of badhatharry badhatharry
    12/10/08

    In reply to Beijing to be World's Largest Wi-Fi City in 2011
    Is there a press release now on how well it's already working?


    [gizmodo.com]

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    Image of theorieofself theorieofself
    11/19/08

    In reply to Meraki's Solar Powered Wi-Fi Repeater Finally Shipping in December
    "$749 if you have your own solar panel"


    what an effing joke.


    DD-WRT + old router = wifi repeater.


    then just hook it up to a battery pack & solar a panel.


    save yourself $1000+

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    Image of GitEmSteveDave_ForgotNametag GitEmSteveDave_ForgotNametag
    11/19/08

    @theorieofself: I can run 20 miles of electric fence off the under $200.00 solar fence unit I bought. A router is proably uses less that the 10,000 volts my fence does. It tingles when you touch it!
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    11/19/08

    In reply to Meraki's Solar Powered Wi-Fi Repeater Finally Shipping in December
    Isn't there something like this, albeit cheaper, that was designed for the OLPC laptops?
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