I love my Steelseries Ikari. Got it at Christmas last year and haven't looked back. I missed the added weight a little at first, but found I held onto the mouse better when I got a sweaty hand from extended gaming sessions (lulz). There's not a ton of extra stuff to fuss with, just the essentials, like a mouse should have.
Though I have thought about picking up Razer's newest wireless mouse for the 2 extra buttons by the index finger. But seeing as how I don't play wow anymore, my need for more mouse buttons is very small.
I have to disagree 100%. I upgraded from an original G5 to the G500 as soon as it came in stock at my local Fry's.
I find the scroll wheel to be a major improvement over the G5. On the G5 when you clicked it either didn't register or it clicked 2-3 times. I have the exact opposite experience with my G500. The wheel click has been precise every time. I don't use the fluid scroll setting at all, I like the click.
As far as the side buttons go I find them to be very usable even with my big hands. I play TF2 a lot as well and use the closest button for voice comm and the middle button for last weapon switch and I haven't had any problem with hitting the wrong button. They're nicely grooved to be able to tell which is which to me. Also, having the extra button for back/forward navigation in browsers is nice.
Ha! I ditched my first G5 for the second G5 (with two thumb buttons) exactly because I couldn't stand how I was always side-scrolling the wheel when I wanted to click it, and I usually never change hardware until a few iterations have passed.
I don't understand why they would have made the same mistake after fixing it once.
So I'm NOT the only one who can't handle the middle button on these things.
When you spend most of your time in UNIX-land, middle-mouse-button is paste. Middle button is therefore used VERY often, and the G5 was driving me nuts. For the longest time I thought the middle button was BROKEN - I'd hear it click but nothing would paste. I replaced it three times before I figured it out.
I'm a huge Logitech fan, too - my first mouse was a Mouse Systems Mouse clone, but ever since then they've all been Logitech. I'm sad they haven't fixed the side-scroll thing. I've been too afraid to buy another mouse with side-scroll in case they ALL do this - it's a bit hard to test on the not-plugged-into-anything demo mice at stores.
@matt buchanan: FYI, G9 and G9x have it, if that makes a bit of difference.
I've got the G500 as well, and I have to completely disagree. Yeah, the scroll wheel's middle button is hard to press, but so are most of Logitech's mice. Most people, gamers or otherwise, don't use the middle mouse button, and if you're like me and have the frictionless scroll, you'll never use the middle mouse button again. Its worthless in comparison.
Now, it does have the extra programmable thumb button, which could easily replace it if you so choose. I find it to be a much better gaming mouse than the G9/G9x, and I think that it is snappier, more responsive and more comfortable than any other gaming mouse I've used, besides the SideWinder x8. And for the price...how can you lose out?
As for the thumb buttons, maybe you just haven't been playing enough with it. I haven't had a single problem with it, in several different games. The programming system is fine, the buttons are fine...I have no idea what you're complaining about. This mouse is wonderful.
but i don't want a headset with a mic attached. i have a 14 year old mic from an old packard bell that still works perfectly. my laptop also has mics built in so when i buy headphones i don't want something that will make me look silly on da plane. this weekend, though, i did finally come to the realization that i need noise canceling headphones. had my laptop turned all the way up and could barely hear my pirated copy of slumdog rupeenaire.
@wolfsingleton: I play a lot of FPS and RTS on my PC but I only use a decent Logitech mouse. I don't understand why one would need more precision: so far I'm often finding myself on the top of the team without all these fancy stuff.
avoid the usb headsets guys they always have bad feedback take this from the guy who was searching for a decent gaming headset. found a great one Medusa 5.1 the best i ever tried (went through 8 different pairs) its pricey but there worth it. here is the link if you interested
Dealmodo recommendation. [www.medusa-usa.com]
@Mr_Biggles: Just buy a really nice set of (non-Bose) noise-canceling headphones and a decent boom-mic. There's no law that says your mic has to be right by your mouth.
Is there really a market for people who need all these extra DPI-Z-uh?
I thought we passed the point where you really failed to notice any improvement in accuracy a long time ago. At least, my Copperhead feels ridiculously smooth. This thing is almost THREE TIMES the DPI of my Copperhead. :(
Believe it or not, it kind of depends on how old/serious about gaming you are. After a certain age, your reflexes slow down, and having an Übermaus stops having any appreciable effect. If you're at the peak of your game, however, having precise control comes in real handy. Some standard-grade optical mice are really touchy, and there can be some screen-jitter, lag, or unintentional scroll if you're using it on different surfaces.
But if you're still using a standard mouse for gaming and have a grown-ups bank account, you're probably more likely to be surfing excel spreadsheets and doin' it up, powerpoint-style than pullin' off sick headshots.
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Though I have thought about picking up Razer's newest wireless mouse for the 2 extra buttons by the index finger. But seeing as how I don't play wow anymore, my need for more mouse buttons is very small.
10/08/09
I find the scroll wheel to be a major improvement over the G5. On the G5 when you clicked it either didn't register or it clicked 2-3 times. I have the exact opposite experience with my G500. The wheel click has been precise every time. I don't use the fluid scroll setting at all, I like the click.
As far as the side buttons go I find them to be very usable even with my big hands. I play TF2 a lot as well and use the closest button for voice comm and the middle button for last weapon switch and I haven't had any problem with hitting the wrong button. They're nicely grooved to be able to tell which is which to me. Also, having the extra button for back/forward navigation in browsers is nice.
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I don't understand why they would have made the same mistake after fixing it once.
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Well, hmm... Maybe when it breaks. Damn, I think I just jinxed myself.
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When you spend most of your time in UNIX-land, middle-mouse-button is paste. Middle button is therefore used VERY often, and the G5 was driving me nuts. For the longest time I thought the middle button was BROKEN - I'd hear it click but nothing would paste. I replaced it three times before I figured it out.
I'm a huge Logitech fan, too - my first mouse was a Mouse Systems Mouse clone, but ever since then they've all been Logitech. I'm sad they haven't fixed the side-scroll thing. I've been too afraid to buy another mouse with side-scroll in case they ALL do this - it's a bit hard to test on the not-plugged-into-anything demo mice at stores.
10/08/09
Also....
"...straddle the line between suggestive and aggressive, so it feels just right, like Zach Morris."
O_o
10/08/09
Nope. The G9 has that - and it works perfectly: super smooth on the fast mode, tight and precise on the clicky.
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I've got the G500 as well, and I have to completely disagree. Yeah, the scroll wheel's middle button is hard to press, but so are most of Logitech's mice. Most people, gamers or otherwise, don't use the middle mouse button, and if you're like me and have the frictionless scroll, you'll never use the middle mouse button again. Its worthless in comparison.
Now, it does have the extra programmable thumb button, which could easily replace it if you so choose. I find it to be a much better gaming mouse than the G9/G9x, and I think that it is snappier, more responsive and more comfortable than any other gaming mouse I've used, besides the SideWinder x8. And for the price...how can you lose out?
As for the thumb buttons, maybe you just haven't been playing enough with it. I haven't had a single problem with it, in several different games. The programming system is fine, the buttons are fine...I have no idea what you're complaining about. This mouse is wonderful.
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fugly,
fugly,
stupid hair,
OOH!! *slow scroll down... slow scroll up* ok, done with her,
fugly,
fugly,
dude,
fugly...
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Dealmodo recommendation.
[www.medusa-usa.com]
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I thought we passed the point where you really failed to notice any improvement in accuracy a long time ago. At least, my Copperhead feels ridiculously smooth. This thing is almost THREE TIMES the DPI of my Copperhead. :(
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But if you're still using a standard mouse for gaming and have a grown-ups bank account, you're probably more likely to be surfing excel spreadsheets and doin' it up, powerpoint-style than pullin' off sick headshots.