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lmdoucette
07/30/09

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Actually the ads go away when the vehicle is in motion, so the whole 'causing an accident while thumbing the ad out of the way at 80MPH' is a non-issue. And in any case, you can't dismiss the ad by touching it - when you touch the ad it actually does a search and presents a list of locations in your area for the subject of the ad (Best Westerns, Walgreen's, etc.). I'm still not exactly sure how you're supposed to redeem the coupon or whatever when you get there though, since you can't call up the ads again at will.

The ads are a trade-off for the traffic updates, which can be turned off - if you disable traffic, you won't see the ads any more either. In my experience, at least in my area, the traffic is pretty much useless so I turned it off. Most of the time, by the time the GPS gets the update and indicates traffic ahead, you're already in it.
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frigg
07/30/09

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I HATE the idea of ads on a GPS. Ugh!

From what I know about GPS's (admittedly, not all that much, except I love my Nuvi), I could see room for improvement in terms of real time traffic updates, GPS's that learn your preferences, better route planning and tracking linked to better computer syncing, smarter navigation, and better graphics.
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Mondoz
07/29/09

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I'm appalled at the attitude of the author. Really!
To say something along the lines of "this is as good as it gets, there just can't be any more improvements or developments" is just nuts for Anyone to say, and it's being said by a Gizmodo author?!?!
I thought the whole point of this site was the progression, development, refinement, and advancement of the gadgetry world.
To say that Anything couldn't be improved upon At All should carry the mark of heresy around these parts. Off with his head!
I could think of a dozen ways to improve the PND space, and that's just off the top of my head. Game changing ideas, like device-to-device communication; auto-updating maps; voice control; integration with cell phones for on-demand data; photo-realistic satellite map imagery with real-time local cloud-cover data.....
There's no end to the types of innovations they could still make with these things. IMO, they're just getting started. But it seems that poor Wilson's GPS has told him that it's all just a dead-end road. I look forward to his next piece entitled: "640K should be enough memory for anybody's GPS."
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Wilson Rothman
07/30/09

@Mondoz: When was the last time you read a DVD player review on Gizmodo? When was the last time you read a review of FM transmitters, or HDD-based music players or cameraphones? Mark my words, equilibrium has been reached, and when it is, in any category, we ease back on our attentions. Heresy? More like the nature of the beat. The wheel was cutting edge technology once, but I don't see any gadget blog writing about it now.
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zenpoet
07/30/09

@Wilson Rothman: I for one am completely pissed off at the lack of updates on the advancement of phonograph technology here on Giz.

I am leaving until I see a post on it!
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Mondoz
07/30/09

@Wilson Rothman: "When was the last time you read a review of FM transmitters, or HDD-based music players or cameraphones?"

Uh, you guys just did a review on both a HDD-based music player and a cameraphone yesterday:

"Series Walkman Review: Why, Sony? Why?"
http://gizmodo.com/5325036

"Apparent Nokia N97 Mini Shrinks by Shedding Useless D-Pad"
http://gizmodo.com/5325856

And a review for an FM transmitter back in June:

"Belkin's TuneCast GPS-Assisted FM Transmitter Is Like Putting a DVR Into a VHS Player"
http://gizmodo.com/5278881

You do actually read the site you write for, yes?

Apparently the other "as good as it gets" areas of technology you mention are chugging along with new developments.
Mark my words, we're nowhere near 'equilibrium' on these devices, and I'll bet we see more GPS devices on Giz in the future.
I'll keep this thread updated as you guys review more in the future.
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Mondoz
08/04/09

@Wilson Rothman: Well, that didn't take long:

[gizmodo.com]
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Mondoz
08/26/09

@Wilson Rothman: [gizmodo.com]
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Mondoz
09/03/09

@Wilson Rothman: [gizmodo.com]
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Mondoz
09/14/09

@Wilson Rothman: [gizmodo.com]
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I Think We're Property
07/29/09

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Ok, so, let me figure this out. The device uses no-subscription-cost, public GPS signals to operate. It gets traffic updates from a no-subscription-cost, public radio network. And yet the device displays ads which cannot be turned off, are presumably updated periodically (slipped into map updates?) and potentially expandable in scope, and which presumably net ongoing annual revenue for Garmin.

Shouldn't this device be free? Or the map updates, at least? Or at least heavily subsidized, in either case? Isn't that the entire point of an "ad supported" business model? Or is this just Garmin exploiting its customers without giving them anything in return?
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willyolio
07/29/09

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i doubt this is the end of PNDs. i can see a future where each one can communicate to each other and report areas of high/slow traffic, etc. instead of just receiving traffic reports, they could be generating them in real time.

i'm sure there's tons of other improvements as well.
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Wilson Rothman
07/30/09

@willyolio: That already happened. It was called the Dash, and it died because of poor timing and the advent of GPS-enabled smartphones that people actually want to buy.
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badhatharry
07/29/09

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Does it know the difference between Capri and Carpi?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8173308.stm
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Ali Khan
07/29/09

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just when the senate is talking of banning text messaging, GARMIN comes along and puts up ads on navigation devices?? how frustrating is that? Who assumes the liability when you're trying to thumb the ad out of the way while barrelling down at 80MPH and cause an accident? Retarded! I love my Garmin 205 which i got for $100 but I will can't justify paying $300+ for an invasion of my privacy. At least with my radio when i don't want to hear ads i can turn them off. this is ridiculous Garmin take it away!
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madog
07/29/09

@Ali Khan: You really can't blame gadgets for the acts of idiots. I don't know if they won, but there have already been a handful of lawsuits by, what has to be the very bottom of the stupid-fucking-moron genepool, people who drove off a cliff or into a house because their, "navigation system told me to". I thought our parents warned us about not doing something just because someone told us to.

"If Jimmy's GPS navigation system told him to jump off a cliff, would you?"

"Well, I don't know, mom. Even though I am flying around at 80mph in a 2 ton vehicle and have no regard for the others around me, I might be too busy combing my hair and reading a newspaper and texting my friends about all the people I'm running over to even notice what the GPSNAV system is talking about."

I know this question gets more ridiculous as time goes on, but whatever happened to being liable for our own actions?
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Ali Khan
07/29/09

@madog: I totally agree with you that we need to be personally responsible and I can tell you the first time i ever had a GPS (a Garmin sleeve for my Compaq Ipaq) i almost caused a couple of accidents. Since then I've learned to only put in locations while stopped, however i know other drivers probably aren't as chicken shit as me and i'm just worried someone looking at a coupon for Mickey D's may end up hurting someone else. Having lived in Michigan adn LA with some off the worst drivers I know there's enough distrcations on the road already more visual noise is just asking for trouble. maybe a seperate screen just to show ads could be a compromise?
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madog
07/30/09

@Ali Khan: The ads are ridiculous, and could potentially be a horrible distraction for those who are easily distracted. Also, I think all current vehicles that ship with GPS force you to be stopped when you add a destination; hopefully some of the new after market ones include accelerometers or something similar to prevent that as well.
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aliskaba
07/29/09

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Can you install AD Block on it?

I'd probably get in a wreck clicking on the "enlarge my penis" ads.
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badhatharry
07/29/09

@aliskaba: I won't be using my hands to click on those.

Sorry. That was lazy, and rather unfunny.
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32ndnote
07/29/09

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I think GPS devices need to communicate with each other. That would make it millions of times better.

"Hey, you, TomTom 15 mi. ahead, you're going 10mph on this 65mph highway? I may just have to re-direct myself."

"What's that Magellan? That left hand turn has a ridiculously long stop light and will extend my commute by 3 min.? Thanks a bunches."
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jakeyjohn1
07/29/09

@32ndnote:
Dude if it could do that automatically and tell you it, yet work across all brands including the ones already in cars it would be soooooo awesome
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slaine17
07/29/09

@jakeyjohn1: The Dash at least does that now with it's own devices. And since they're moving away from making h/w themselves towards licensing their tech, we may just get that :)
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