Without making a Metal Gear Solid reference, I can see where opponents might see this as a potential tool to make newer weapons on the Nuclear Biological Chemical scale (NBC), but I think this is a good thing if we are going to see potential remedies for ailments past, present and future.
While some might see this as an opportunity to make a "Frankenstein" or "Test Tube Society", I also see this as a means to finally engineer out anything that might make us humans less suseptible to any disease threat that we have yett encounter (or close.)
The same might apply to the currently 9,999 other genomes. #10kgenomeproject
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I know that the cow was the first artiodactyla to have it's genome mapped. I also know that an artiodactyla is an even-toed ungulate, and that an ungulate is a hoofed mammal. I know these things because I heard them on NPR. I was listening to NPR because Matt Buchanan was on there one day, and I've been listening non-stop ever since, just hoping to hear his voice again. I like Matt. #10kgenomeproject
Besides learning how species will respond to things, I think it will also help us learn things about the human genome. We can identify traits within certain animals like better eyesight or increased resistance to some substance that can be beneficial for us to target within our own genome. #10kgenomeproject
we don't really need to live longer (at least in the developed countries); we already live too long. plus, think of the burden to tax payers of supporting all those elderly people. the retirement age will have to shift up; i don't really like the idea of remaining in the work force any longer.
@jjigen: The elderly wouldn't need so much support if they weren't so infirm. living 16 years longer isn't the good part. It's living 40 more healthy, productive, happy years.
@Rosa Golijan: Oh, Rosa, the threat of a pizza shortage together with the mentioning of a diet has kept you from interpreting the quote correctly. What it says is, that the gene mimicks the effect of a calorie-restricted diet.
Which, imho, implies, that you can eat all the pizzas you want because the absence of the gene somehow takes care of that not affecting your aging process, which has been known to be positively influenced by calory-restricted diets otherwise.
However, I do caution against implementing such a pizza-diet. Since all we can see in your comments avatar is your hair (and that could also be used to conceal whatever you wish to conceal), who knows, maybe you already look like that picture, if not, the pizza-diet will take care of it:
Anyway: Yes, you are very correct about the suppression of that gene mimicking the effects of starvation, but it's kinda tough to breed a gene out of humans at the moment so the drugs would be our only hope (or doom).
@Lucas Cantor: Don't give up. I'm happy to see corrections/elaborations/extra info/etc from commenters.
Before the post went up, there was some discussion about the whole "one fewer' vs "one less" issue. It was settled on "one less," but if you have a better explanation of which should be used, please share.
@Rosa Golijan: I'd venture a guess that it depends on the focus you want to give the sentence. "one fewer" would suggest you don't know the total amount of genes present and "one less" would suggest that you do.
@Rosa Golijan: The use of 'one' implies that it is countable. Neither 'fewer' nor 'less' implies that the total number is known. 'less' does hint at a value judgment other than the purely numerical one of 'fewer'.
@deanbmmv: Do you believe everything The Man tells you? Next you're going to tell us that those fancy moving pictures aren't actually painted in real time by elves behind the glass.
I wouldn't want to live past 100 anyway. "Hey, guess what, we found out a way for you to be in a wheelchair longer." Unless it makes me twenty for sixteen extra years, no thanks.
@Rosa Golijan: According to Technology Review " While male knockout mice did not have extended lifespans, they did have the same array of health benefits as females."
@FriarNurgle: Actually it's worse than that, I remember when this announcement first came out at IBM a while back. Apparently this works best with chicken herpes DNA for some reason. I can't imagine the looks this scientist got when he said: Hey guys! lets try it with chicken herpes!
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So, in the future maybe you could have computers built from celebrity DNA?
An Angelina Jolie DNA system looks great, and works well for networking to foreign systems, but keeps attaching them to its own network. And the mobile Megan Fox DNA system, popular with teen guys, but has horrible thumb controls. And the Tara Reid or Paris Hilton DNA systems... they look nice, great at networking, and they are cheap, but they constantly crash and have a horrible affinity for animated gifs and flashy icons.
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While some might see this as an opportunity to make a "Frankenstein" or "Test Tube Society", I also see this as a means to finally engineer out anything that might make us humans less suseptible to any disease threat that we have yett encounter (or close.)
The same might apply to the currently 9,999 other genomes. #10kgenomeproject
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@Rosa Golijan: Oh, Rosa, the threat of a pizza shortage together with the mentioning of a diet has kept you from interpreting the quote correctly. What it says is, that the gene mimicks the effect of a calorie-restricted diet.
Which, imho, implies, that you can eat all the pizzas you want because the absence of the gene somehow takes care of that not affecting your aging process, which has been known to be positively influenced by calory-restricted diets otherwise.
However, I do caution against implementing such a pizza-diet. Since all we can see in your comments avatar is your hair (and that could also be used to conceal whatever you wish to conceal), who knows, maybe you already look like that picture, if not, the pizza-diet will take care of it:
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Anyway, kudos to the one who first guesses who is portrayed in the photo.
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Anyway: Yes, you are very correct about the suppression of that gene mimicking the effects of starvation, but it's kinda tough to breed a gene out of humans at the moment so the drugs would be our only hope (or doom).
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Now, I need something to calm me down. Where was my bar of white chocolate stored away for emergencies?
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Before the post went up, there was some discussion about the whole "one fewer' vs "one less" issue. It was settled on "one less," but if you have a better explanation of which should be used, please share.
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"If it is countable use fewer, if it isn’t use less."
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If you bothered to read the article, you'd see the mice were hardly "decrepid"(sic)
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You'd still be an old person, but you'd be a much healthier old person.
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An Angelina Jolie DNA system looks great, and works well for networking to foreign systems, but keeps attaching them to its own network. And the mobile Megan Fox DNA system, popular with teen guys, but has horrible thumb controls. And the Tara Reid or Paris Hilton DNA systems... they look nice, great at networking, and they are cheap, but they constantly crash and have a horrible affinity for animated gifs and flashy icons.