@jrronimo: If this functions anything like the Wave interface, you shouldn't need to be too worried about "wasted space". In Wave, each of the boxes/gadgets can be minimized to the top of the screen, Windows XP style.....if you have your taskbar up top, and occupying a void instead of an obvious bar.
In the second shot, you see an example of this, as the Inbox is minimized.
@ripfire: Single biggest failure of GMail. You can filter all you want, but you can only show email in the order Google thinks you should see it. #userinterface
@ripfire: Out of curiosity, why would you want your emails sorted any other way than the date received? With tags, and searching, I can't see any other way I'd want to sort it. #userinterface
@whatne1wuddo: You can only search for things that you already know. However, you can't search for something if you don't know what you're looking for. Sometimes it's just easier to sort by contact and scroll through the names to find what you're looking for. (when you're dealing with Indian or Thai last names, trust me on this).
Here's another example. Let's say I'm a manager at sales, and I created a folder for incoming requests from new clients. Normally, I would sort the messages by contacts and get a quick scan on a list of all the clients. In addition to that, I would be able to see how many requests each different client are submitting.
Sorting is such a fundamental feature when dealing with lists, I just don't understand why Google won't implement it.
@ripfire: That's a good point. Alright, I understand completely now.
TBH, i didn't even know Google didn't allow this until it was mentioned, seems like such a simple thing not to be in, and it's strange that there isn't a labs fix for it. #userinterface
You guys just don't get it. Google Wave is the new Google. Everything they make will be part of a Wave. That's how they will bring it to the mainstream and build critical mass for Google Wave. Every piece of Google will be assimilated into Wave. Maps, Bookmarks, GMail, News, Docs, they are all apart of the Wave.
Google Wave is Google's real OS. Chrome OS is just a front. #userinterface
@dallasmay: Also, every purchase, sale, or any kind of transaction will be made with Google Wave - if anyone doesn't have it, they'll be unable to buy or sell. #userinterface
I think my Gmail screen looks just fine. It's clean, easy to read, and it only displays what I tell it to display. Threaded and Starred conversations and custome labels make it even simpler to organize everything into a neat and tidy inbox. There's always room for improvement, but as far as I'm concerned, this is the best looking and most cleanly organized email interface I've ever used.
@imTheKing: I've enabled various "Labs" settings, such as Superstars, Mark as Read, Multiple Inboxes, GDocs integration, Title Tweaks, and custom theme "Shiny." I also use Gmail exclusively through Chrome, which may contribute to the clean and simplified look. #userinterface
Halfway decent? One of the biggest reasons I'm attracted to Google and their applications if the fact that everything simple, effective and spartan. Look at Yahoo Mail or Hotmail by comparison to Gmail. Everything Google is simple and just plain works. The fonts, colours are soft and easy to use. And keeping everything simple also allows the Google sites to load the fastest and without any fuss. I don't need fancy graphics in my email client. I just need it to work smoothly and quickly. #userinterface
@Aetius: My thoughts exactly. Of course, Google still gives the option to customize and "sweeten" things up a bit, as usual. My first priority with mail is speed, and second is keeping things organized. I've yet to see a mail client that can beat it in those categories. Glassy buttons, textured skins and glowing or sliding bits... it's a bunch of useless junk for people who have more time to gawk at their interface than actual work to get done. I say, get the art out of the way when there is work to be done. #userinterface
I'll be honest, I don't see a whole lot of difference. I also don't really mind their current layout. Sure it looks simple, but sometimes simplicity is the best thing. #userinterface
@James Sorensen: Agreed. Gizmodo has consistently had one of the worst interfaces and comment thread systems I've ever seen. It's always glitchy and slow, clearly hacked together by amateurs more intereste din displaying ads than providing a consistent and useful interface. If it weren't for the consistently high quality, unbiased and accurate articles from Jesus Diaz, I'd never look back... #userinterface
This is the one of the first applications for Wave that I thought of actually. I'm in a D&D group that started off as coworkers gathering around a table. As people went their separate ways to different parts of the country, we've switched to using Tokbox and GameTable. #games
@Crashproof: Honest question, I'm actually curious. What kind of company do you have to work at to not get mocked out of the workplace for doing RPGs on lunch break? #games
But honestly, there is nothing about playing RPGs that it requires you to live in your mom's basement, collect Pokemon hentai, and never take showers. No more than you have to wear a funny visor and smoke cigars to play poker. It's just a social thing.
We play one night a week, about 2 weeks out of 3 due to busy schedules, for maybe 3 hours at a time.
@Whiteflea: that's kind of where I am, wondering how it might be helpful and thinking, probably somehow in some vague way. I don't have access to the beta though. #games
@Crashproof: I know that. I work at a private bank, love sports and manly things, yet still remember with fondness the good ol' days of pen and paper RPG'ing. #games
@Zerod Zunaro: People have been doing the whole RPG-by-email/forum post/IRC/whatever deal for a while.
I agree that the getting friends together aspect of the games is great, but sometimes you end up in a place where there's either nobody around or at least nobody you want to eat cheetos and throw dice at. That's where something like this really shines. #games
@Zerod Zunaro: It could probably help take care of a lot of the set up stuff and logistics that tend to eat up your precious in-person time. Some of my friends that game run forums just for that sort of thing. #games
My friend invited me, we played with it for maybe 10 minutes, it crashed, then we just ended up talking on AIM.
I should also note that when the Wave crashes, you lose EVERYTHING from that wave that happened since the last sync, which, for us, was 95% of the wave. If that happened in a serious setting, I'd be MORE than pissed. There needs to be some kind of offline caching that allows changes to stay on your end until Google unfucks itself.
I actually like Google Wave. As an illustrator working on a book with a partner several states away, it's helpful for smoothing the contant back and forth flow of information as we refine concepts. We were using Gmail (and integration with Google Docs) but this streamlines it further. We can't always be on the phone at the same time, but the laptops are always open. It makes for a much smoother integration for sharing my sketches, comparing notes, and (most importantly) keeping track of things, with faster response times. #games
@met2art: This. I don't understand why people are having such a hard time figuring out how useful Wave is. I would say lack of patience or something, but I don't need any patience to make it useful! #games
@Swearengen: You'd use a dicebot. Like those available on AIM. Which is pretty much what playing through Google Wave amounts to.
Of course, there are a lot better tools out there for playing P&P RPGs online -- rptools, for instance -- but Wave has Google branding. So it's automatically cooler. #games
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In the second shot, you see an example of this, as the Inbox is minimized.
Again, assuming it's real. #userinterface
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Here's another example. Let's say I'm a manager at sales, and I created a folder for incoming requests from new clients. Normally, I would sort the messages by contacts and get a quick scan on a list of all the clients. In addition to that, I would be able to see how many requests each different client are submitting.
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TBH, i didn't even know Google didn't allow this until it was mentioned, seems like such a simple thing not to be in, and it's strange that there isn't a labs fix for it. #userinterface
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Google Wave is Google's real OS. Chrome OS is just a front. #userinterface
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Yes, I'm a RPG nerd, geek, whatever you want to call me, but text-only RPGs... hmmm. No thanks. Maybe because I never had the chance to play one.
Off-topic: Aren't you Jesus Diaz from Gizmodo? WOW @.@. Sorry, it's kinda like meeting a celebrity. Kinda.
Thx for promoting my comment. Seriously, this new commenting system sucks.
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What kind of work place gathers enough D&D players to form a playing community? #games
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But honestly, there is nothing about playing RPGs that it requires you to live in your mom's basement, collect Pokemon hentai, and never take showers. No more than you have to wear a funny visor and smoke cigars to play poker. It's just a social thing.
We play one night a week, about 2 weeks out of 3 due to busy schedules, for maybe 3 hours at a time.
@Whiteflea: that's kind of where I am, wondering how it might be helpful and thinking, probably somehow in some vague way. I don't have access to the beta though. #games
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Though it would be a nice way to play during week nights when nobody can displace themselves... #games
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I agree that the getting friends together aspect of the games is great, but sometimes you end up in a place where there's either nobody around or at least nobody you want to eat cheetos and throw dice at. That's where something like this really shines. #games
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I should also note that when the Wave crashes, you lose EVERYTHING from that wave that happened since the last sync, which, for us, was 95% of the wave. If that happened in a serious setting, I'd be MORE than pissed. There needs to be some kind of offline caching that allows changes to stay on your end until Google unfucks itself.
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Of course, there are a lot better tools out there for playing P&P RPGs online -- rptools, for instance -- but Wave has Google branding. So it's automatically cooler. #games
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Vampire: The Masquerade or AD&D under 3.5 Rules? #games
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