wow matrox are still going?? i remember paying a small fortune for the g400 when it came out, environmental bump mapping was going to be the best thing since sliced bread, but 3dfx stamped it to death. the sad thig is i bet there are people reading this that have never even heard of 3dfx, damn im feeling old now! #matroxm9188pciex16
@spudhed: Matrox is still around in the high end studio / professional world. They are still fairly well known in the high end video market, I beleive #matroxm9188pciex16
@jamjen: Correct. Matrox decided to specialize in business applications and avoid the gaming race(to expensive). Generally they're cards are not quite as powerful as the current ATI/Nvidia but support many application specific enhancements plus wonderful multi-monitor support. #matroxm9188pciex16
I know it does DVI as well... but I have to ask does anything really use DisplayPort besides a smattering of Apple products? I don't think I've seen a single display or piece of AV equipment that supports DP. Nearly everything has either HDMI or DVI connections.
Basically my question is what the hell do you connect it to? #matroxm9188pciex16
@Odin: Dell and Apple use it, but you can use adapters and connect almost every monitor or TV to it. Since DVI connector is too big and HDMI is really limited, the Displayport is the smartest choice here. #matroxm9188pciex16
Foul seems like the wrong thing to do. Who would purposely "foul?"
But if you don't foul, you're not playing at the peak of your game. A team that isn't fouling isn't playing hard.
If a computer company is perfect - any computer company - they're waiting too long to go to market with new products. Innovation requires a certain percentage of fouls.
The issue is where is the line? If more than a tolerable threshold of products fail, then the line is in the wrong place. But if more than a certain threshold are perfect, then the line is also in the wrong place.
A friend of mine bought a Mac Pro with a similar issue. The graphics were similarly malfunctioning due to overheating. He was outraged. He just spent all this money, and his computer didn't work. After a ghetto workaround, Apple replaced his graphics card with a better model.
Obviously anyone who just bought a 17" computer that doesn't work should be outraged. Just as obviously, it'll get fixed. But from a strategic level, if the issue effects a negligible percentage, it's better to incur and fix, then to ensure 100% perfection and innovate at a slower pace.
If an auto maker shipped a car with a faulty clutch, there would be a mandatory recall. I can understand flaws in code. But this isn't a bug. This is defective manufacturing. Which, at least since the Intel switch, has been the norm from Cupertino. There were the MooBook problems, problems where Apple was shipping MacBooks with plastic covering the vents, and display problems across the entire line (like the fry&freeze problem with the iMacs). This is not a "we want perfection but have to ship something eventually" problem. This is a lack of quality control problem.
Nvidia chips have heat issues and have had those issues for years. Apple shouldn't have put such a chip in an enclosure that does not allow for peak heat dissipation. Or, if Apple wants to use Nvidia, it should focus on heat dispersal. The chip being faulty is Nvidia's problem. The choice to use it is Apple's problem.
The market allows this behavior because it has been drilled into people's minds that it is to be expected. You can't engineer perfection. But you can have proper quality control measures in place. And Apple's QC department is negligible.
Well. There's one thing that's come out of this. I had to write my engineering essay on material failures and this did it. Well. This and the first run Xbox 360s.
Gosh darnit. I'm glad I didn't upgrade my 2 year old Macbook Pro that generates so much heat that my hands sweat while typing. Apple makes great products, but there always seems to be a caveat.
@keepr: Uhm, this is about the video card, not the machine it's in. Though it is possible that Apple's cooling design isn't up to snuff, or that nVidia's cooling spec requirements were wrong, or perhaps a combination of both, or a manufacturing issue, or...
TRUE Apple fanboys know to wait until hardware Rev C.
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Basically my question is what the hell do you connect it to? #matroxm9188pciex16
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Limited how? HDMI has a very similar feature set to DP. #matroxm9188pciex16
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No, I can't let you in! You'd see the Big Board!
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Don't you all get tired of making the same worthless comments everytime?
Your all sheep, build a hackintosh, PCs suck, sprinkled with a few crazy liinux posts and you have yourself one giant retarded group of people.
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-or doesn't, whichever the case may be.
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A "fix" means someone failed - either in design or in testing or in QC. Or maybe all three.
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Foul seems like the wrong thing to do. Who would purposely "foul?"
But if you don't foul, you're not playing at the peak of your game. A team that isn't fouling isn't playing hard.
If a computer company is perfect - any computer company - they're waiting too long to go to market with new products. Innovation requires a certain percentage of fouls.
The issue is where is the line? If more than a tolerable threshold of products fail, then the line is in the wrong place. But if more than a certain threshold are perfect, then the line is also in the wrong place.
A friend of mine bought a Mac Pro with a similar issue. The graphics were similarly malfunctioning due to overheating. He was outraged. He just spent all this money, and his computer didn't work. After a ghetto workaround, Apple replaced his graphics card with a better model.
Obviously anyone who just bought a 17" computer that doesn't work should be outraged. Just as obviously, it'll get fixed. But from a strategic level, if the issue effects a negligible percentage, it's better to incur and fix, then to ensure 100% perfection and innovate at a slower pace.
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If an auto maker shipped a car with a faulty clutch, there would be a mandatory recall. I can understand flaws in code. But this isn't a bug. This is defective manufacturing. Which, at least since the Intel switch, has been the norm from Cupertino. There were the MooBook problems, problems where Apple was shipping MacBooks with plastic covering the vents, and display problems across the entire line (like the fry&freeze problem with the iMacs). This is not a "we want perfection but have to ship something eventually" problem. This is a lack of quality control problem.
Nvidia chips have heat issues and have had those issues for years. Apple shouldn't have put such a chip in an enclosure that does not allow for peak heat dissipation. Or, if Apple wants to use Nvidia, it should focus on heat dispersal. The chip being faulty is Nvidia's problem. The choice to use it is Apple's problem.
The market allows this behavior because it has been drilled into people's minds that it is to be expected. You can't engineer perfection. But you can have proper quality control measures in place. And Apple's QC department is negligible.
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TRUE Apple fanboys know to wait until hardware Rev C.