So... they are not being forced to do this for no money... they chose to do the work for exposure instead of cash. I dont get how this makes google evil. If the artists dont want to work for no money, then dont.
@Geisrud - MS150 fundraising time!: There is no legal issue here. This is simply a matter of Google acting like a dick to weasel free work by leveraging "exposure" as if that were good enough.
If they were soliciting work from complete unknowns, that would make sense, but they are trying this on experienced artists who've done global campaigns for major multinational corporations. It's insulting, and shows how ignorant Google can be when it comes to anything other than coding.
I don't mean to be a kill joy but I'm sure there are many people out there that would love to have their work attached to a Google product for the exposure.
I would definitely do it for free. From a promotional point of view, you couldn't really pay for a better spot.
I suppose you have to look at it as either a promotional tool or a piece of work from a client (which you'd obviously want paying for)
@hanspecans: @JazzBri: @soulfinger: @saigumi: WHO THE FUCK CARES IF HE'S A WORKING ARTIST OR NOT. Anyone taking the stance that the artist should be payed for free promotion because they're professionals is an idiot. They have the right to refuse to deal with Google because the people that will are in a line about a million artist long. This is FUCKING CAPITALISM, not evil. No one is being forced to do anything against their will here.
This shit reeks of the same slimy strong-arming tactic used by unions to destroy GM. If a company isn't allowed to stay competitive and is forced to become an open wallet for "the people" then only destruction waits for it. This is a fucking slippery slope people. The only ones being greedy here are the artists because they want there cake and they feel it's only right to get it for free as well as eating it too.
Google doesn't think the skins are worth paying for, so they don't buy them. No matter how great you think the art is, it doesn't matter if there's no buyer. I don't see what the problem is.
On an unrelated note, I give great sensual massages, but when I offer my services to Google headquarters, they kick me out and refuse to pay. But, I'm raved about by other independent and unrelated third parties!
@Hello Mister Walrus: The difference is that Google is actively soliciting the creation of these skins. I can only assume that your erotic massage is more for your benefit than Google's :)
@JazzBri: What's the difference if Google solicited the free art? The artists can just decline to contribute at no cost to themselves. Google is not forcing the artists to work. Why don't they just take their art to Google's competitors who will pay?
@Hello Mister Walrus: Google is really doing anything "wrong" exactly... but it's a bit of a sleazy tactic. They are specifically soliciting artwork from high-profile artists in exhcnage for... absolutely nothing. The artists in question have already gained exposure and done major works. Google is trying to leverage their own brand in order to weasel free work to compete with the looks and styles of Apple and Microsoft.
It's insulting and does speak to Google's lack of understanding of good design and art, and how to properly deal with creative people and the public, effectively. I like Google products, but as tech companies go, they have Asperger's.
@markterry: So, not hiring "high profile" designers means that Google lacks an understanding of good design? I don't understand where this argument is going. No one is being forced to work for Google - if they don't like the offer, then they can take their art elsewhere.
@Hello Mister Walrus: I know where you come from with this, but it makes it no less right to not pay a bag boy at wal-mart because if they were doing their job well they get tipped.
Sure, they could go to the little guy and actually get paid, but the model and precedent would be set and it would make it more acceptable to pay worthy bag boys less or nothing based on the same reasoning that the world´s largest company feels the work they do is not worth paying for.
Once enough people get paid nothing, their worth is exactly that. Have you ever put on your resume how much you got paid on your last job? The reason why is because your personal worth is metered by you. If the last job you had was a CEO, then why do you want minimum wage all of a sudden?
The up-and-comer is also hurt by this sort of behavior, because if they are ¨getting paid¨ in notoriety, not only are they taking a non-paying job, now, it makes it ok next time to ¨farm talent.¨ When will they get paid for their work and make it a viable career? What happens to the career artists that never got a job that was taken for free? Does this all become a hobby?
Google is a user in this case. This is the reason for labor laws. Minimum wage is there because your work isn´t worth money to certain people, and everyone deserves to get paid for a job that they do.
Also, internet money never paid bills. So what if you made the skin on my browser? Do I know who designed all of my icons, wallpaper, anything? No. Glad someone did. It was a job well done, and I´m glad they got paid for it. If I could get paid for what I liked doing, it would be a wonderful day in my life. I would never want to force the person who has acheived that to have to take a 9-5er like mine. (especially if the reason was not for a lack of jobs, but for a lack of respect and pay.)
@CYST!: You seem unfamiliar with the concepts of supply and demand. If art is indeed valuable, then someone will pay for it, even if it is not Google. If Google demands art for a lower price than the market, then Google loses. If no one is willing to pay for the art, this implies that it is not commercially valuable to begin with.
What you are saying is that Google should charitably contribute to up and coming artists. While this would be laudable, it does not mean that Google should be required to do so. Google is a for-profit business, and should rationally only pay for services whose costs are less than or equal to their marginal benefits. This is the basis of our entire economic system, in addition to Google's operations.
@Hello Mister Walrus: I think you've lost perspective. Imagine, for example, if Giz stopped paying commenters for commenting on articles. Do you think anyone would continue commenting without that weekly paycheck?
@Hello Mister Walrus: Exactly, it's not as if Google said they were going to pay X for the art then reneged after delivery. They never said they would pay for the art. She should have looked at the deal more closely before working on it. Our company knows what the pay for a job will be before we do the work why should she be any different.
@joelydanger: It's not like Google's products are ugly right now. I don't cringe at the sight of GMail - in fact, I think that Google has some of the best user interfaces on the internet. Obviously, Google does not have a problem competing with other big companies. I really don't see how not investing in art that it doesn't need will affect its competitiveness.
@CYST!: Are you really comparing this to slavery? There is no longer any point to talking to you...
@Hello Mister Walrus: Beauty is subjective, but its widely known that Google's own designers are crippled to the 1's and 0's approach that it takes to design. There have been a few posts on Giz even.
If it didn't need the art then it wouldn't be asking designers to do it. They just don't value the visual aspect as much as functionality. Its sad really, because the two go hand in hand. But they're too OCD to relax and take a daring design decision. Imagine if they did.
@joelydanger: The question here is whether Google mistreated or mishandled these artists in any way. They did not lie, they did not force, they did not deceive or coerce, so no, they did not. They made what they felt was a fair offer and this a story about people who disagreed. Surely there are others who will feel that it is fair, though, and they will be delighted that these more established artists were too rich to horn in on their "exposure."
What you're discussing is Google's design standards. I believe they're fine, but I could probably be persuaded to think they need to do more, and that "more" will cost money. Doesn't matter; that's a completely separate issue from what this article is discussing.
@HonusWScruggs: I was responding to when my esteemed colleague Hello Mister Walrus said that he didn't think g-mail was ugly. I only brought it up to explain how google generally doesn't sweat over the design.
Yes other people will think its fair and will take what they can get, but they're only undermining themselves by supporting a dangerous habit that google can make of this. I'm not saying they're being evil at all, but in my opinion when this stuff is being used for the face of chrome, they should pay these people.
@joelydanger: I consider your view that this type of offer, while tempting, is ultimately bad for the artists to be valuable. If that is indeed true, it is a point that belongs here.
However, when it comes to business, I don't feel comfortable making normative statements (with words like "should") where two parties have come to a mutual agreement.
@HonusWScruggs: Yes, that was the point I was making. I believe in any profession a person who does their work well should be rewarded just the same.
And you're right, I shouldn't use the word "should". They have come to a mutual agreement and its wrong to break it. I guess there is a certain amount expected from such a company to put forth in the terms beforehand.
Artists don't get paid - otherwise, why would they be starving? Nope, if they get paid they'll just be graphic designers. It's a choice they have to make.
I dont know if its true for Jets but I know prop powered passenger planes appreciate in value. So it might be cheaper to buy new. It would be nice if they bought an American Plane with America's Money!!!
You guys use this excuse all the time to justify it but if I had a kid who needed an operation and I was going to have friends help should I spend it on him or a party? I mean there is a moral obligation and an example to set too right?
Yeah! And if the government provides health care for everyone they have the right to tell us we can't eat french fries or cheeseburgers! And... and... This is some scary ****.
"The average age of the world's great civilizations has been two hundred years. These nations have progressed through the following sequence: from bondage to spiritual faith, from spiritual faith to great courage, from courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to selfishness, from selfishness to complacency from complacency to apathy, from apathy to dependency, from dependency back to bondage." Alexander Tyler
"The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under
the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist
program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without
"Greed that President Obama is trying to put an end to"
oh yea? hummmmm i wonder what he was doing a few years ago when regulation rules came in for a vote.
Gizmodo sucks overall now. Besides the apple-centric coverage but total political bias that they do not even TRY to hide.... im off to get my GIZMO and Tech information from another site..
@chuloallen: I agree with you Sir. I love Gizmodo like no other site out there, however, being christian and conservative I am finding myself being bombarded here. Giz is about the latest tech and stuff lathered up with stories and humor. I don't come here to feel like the bad guy or to listen to contrived political stories.
This article (like others) has rose colored glasses on. OMG he saved us tax payers 50 million dollars! No he did not, that money has already been striped from tax payers pockets. It will be spent on "other necessities" I'm just sure.
Does this other Obama article mean anything to you?
[i.gizmodo.com] It's only a 3 million projector, but its cool, It's Obamatastic! If the economy spirals downward under Obama, he just needs one more term to fix it. If it's worse... Bush did it. I get it.
And I'll agree with you on the inauguration, but crazily enough that was possible because even in this economy thousands and thousands of private citizens thought an inauguration was the best place to donate their money. And they did.
@Bilal Belagam: Inaugurations are good things too. It's a good thing for a country to celebrate the successful succession of power, and to celebrate itself every few years. Particularly given the significance of inaugurating the first black president in a country born with the birth defect of slavery, the inauguration had historical, cultural, social, diplomatic, and educational benefits worth paying for.
@92BuickLeSabre: I'm torn on that point. I'm vehemently against socialism, communism and nationalization of anything privatized (none of those isms ever work in the real world)... but at the same time, that would be a HUGE uptick to the unemployment lines. Not to mention--what would come of any investments or actual banking balances in the banks if they did fall? I wonder if the FDIC impact would be greater than the bail-out...
@fluidexistence: Honestly, if the banks had actually collapsed, I think it would have been a level of chaos that we probably don't even believe could occur in the U.S.
@92BuickLeSabre: I don't know if I agree with that. I think the government should be forcing tax payers to give their money to failing companies that time and time again make piss poor business decisions.
Just an FYI, if the site continues in the overtly partisan political vein, I think you will lose a number of readers.
Oh and does anyone know how much Citi is now going to have to pay in penalties and a possible breach of contract suit for breaking a contract that was entered into several years ago?
@dbett: What are you talking about? The election's over, he's in charge of the whole thing. I don't think telling the recipient of a corporate handout that they don't have the right to "roll deep" with the money is in anyway partisan.
It's a little slack on the "gizmo" side of things, but is not the worst offender on that front by far.
@dbett: Shhhhhh, don't drag facts into this. The news media hates it, which is why they say them really quickly/quietly/not at all, and let the public whip themselves into a outrage. After all, even though this jet would have let them REDUCE their existing fleet, it's wrong for them to try and save money by spending some, and honoring their contract from 4 years ago.
@Halfwit: Didn't you get the memo? It used to be that if you didn't support every single thing the President did, you hated America. Now if you like anything the President does, you're a partisan.
@dbett: People have no clue. Those planes have to be ordered years in advance (with payments made along the way), they didn't run down to JetMax with all the money the government just printed for them.
But forget the legitimate excess of our government, there's class envy to be had!
@dbett: Just an FYI backatcha: Giz isn't under any obligation to be bipartisan. They have no obligation to give "equal time" or even to show impartiality, or be unbiased. It's a blog, not an official network news source. I'm fairly certain that the obvious biases they hold have already pretty much cemented their readership, and they don't seem to be too worried about it.
I really wonder why so many people expect Giz to be balanced, fair and non-opinionated. It's just a collection of people who enjoy writing about technology, and occasionally tossing their opinions into the ring. There is no promise of impartiality, fairness or even "nothing but gadgets, gadgets, gadgets!"
People need to pull their heads out of their asses, take the blinders off and stop bitching about the free articles they choose to read.
And, just to head you off at the pass, dear rebuttal writer: Sure, your entitled to your dumb opinion, but it's rather stupid to complain that a bunch of bloggers aren't being fair or living up to your expectations of a free service.
This site is "The Gadget Blog." That's what the site is named. And that's why most people come here. Maybe a majority agree with the partisan slant of the contributors, but it's likely they get their political fix elsewhere.
The recent rash of political stories - wholly unrelated to gadgets - is going to result in some folks who don't agree with the slant (or simply want to read about gadgets without dealing with more political garbage - me) deciding they can get their gadget fix elsewhere. Engadget comes quickly to mind.
@dbett: I'd wager <50 million dollars USD. Additionally, if the agreement was entered into years ago, I'd be interested to see if the penalty structure was in USD, euros or francs...
Well we kinda expect Giz to be unbiased because they are respected journalists. And I personally read because they report news. Crazy, I know. So good job on berating everyone who takes the time to read this blog, even better job on essentially telling the sponsors of this site they are wasting their money, and Finally Fantatsitc job on informing Gizmodo they aren't worthy of respect and the work they do is worth more than that cheese you get after a long run when you pull back the foreskin on your penis, God I hate that!! But yeah thanks!
@Nemesisesq: As the famous quote goes, "Come, let us retract the foreskin of misconception and apply the wire
brush of enlightenment."
If anyone feels slighted, insulted, disenchanted, jaded or otherwise discombobulated while reading my comments, then good. I'm not here to stroke egos or make sure everybody feels warm and fuzzy inside.
Gizmodo is not a respected news site staffed by respected journalists. While some have a journalistic background, that does not unequivocally make them "respected journalists" by any stretch of the imagination. By and large they are childish technology lovers who've made a bad name for themselves by acting irresponsibly, both in writing false articles and pulling childish (and potentially legally actionable) stunts at tradeshows.
Do I like the Giz? Sure, there's plenty to like. But does that mean I'm going to pull the blinders on and pretend they are ethical, unbiased, professional reporters? Absolutely not. The Giz makes money (as do all Gawker Media affiliates) based on click-throughs, hence it behooves them to makes catchy eyecandy headlines and generate as much troll-like buzz as possible. This, in and of itself, leads to unethical reporting.
They are not automatically worthy of respect after a number of stunts they've pulled, but overall I enjoy the atmosphere here which is, for the most part, better than other tech blogs. All the above does not automatically imply that I wouldn't think any of them isn't a fun, interesting and personable individual, either.
I can see how you got your star. You're an ass kisser who doesn't bother to question anything. Who the fuck are you, the Good Feeling Fairy?
"The high-flying execs at Citigroup caved under pressure from President Obama and decided today to abandon plans for a luxurious new $50 million corporate jet from France. "
Be worried. Be very worried. When the government starts telling those people what to do what's to stop the government from telling you what to do. How about the government telling you that you're making too much money.
What Citibank, Starbucks or any company does with their money is nobody's business but their own. If they want to do something that you think is stupid why don't you take the risk and start your own company and do it the way you'd like.
a) The government has been telling me that I'm making too much money since I started making money.
b) When I asked my gramma for $5 to go buy her her denture-paste, and then my gramma gave me $5 to go buy her denture-paste, and then I ran off and used it to purchase Everlasting Gobstoppers, she had every right to tell me to take the Gobstoppers back and smack me on the wrist. Which she did.
@SpencerBabanya: It's not really their money when they just go thanded billions of our dollars, is it?
They claimed they were in such dire straits that they required billions of dollars. Is it really too much to ask that they don't go spending it on pimped out private jets? And, so far as I can see, he didn't force them not to buy it, he's simply suggesting, in rather firm tones, that they rethink their spending spree plans.
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yeah, people need to get paid, but if there's no contract saying "We'll pay your for X", then don't expect compensation.
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If they were soliciting work from complete unknowns, that would make sense, but they are trying this on experienced artists who've done global campaigns for major multinational corporations. It's insulting, and shows how ignorant Google can be when it comes to anything other than coding.
I think everyone missed the point of the article.
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I would definitely do it for free. From a promotional point of view, you couldn't really pay for a better spot.
I suppose you have to look at it as either a promotional tool or a piece of work from a client (which you'd obviously want paying for)
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This shit reeks of the same slimy strong-arming tactic used by unions to destroy GM. If a company isn't allowed to stay competitive and is forced to become an open wallet for "the people" then only destruction waits for it. This is a fucking slippery slope people. The only ones being greedy here are the artists because they want there cake and they feel it's only right to get it for free as well as eating it too.
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On an unrelated note, I give great sensual massages, but when I offer my services to Google headquarters, they kick me out and refuse to pay. But, I'm raved about by other independent and unrelated third parties!
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It's insulting and does speak to Google's lack of understanding of good design and art, and how to properly deal with creative people and the public, effectively. I like Google products, but as tech companies go, they have Asperger's.
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Sure, they could go to the little guy and actually get paid, but the model and precedent would be set and it would make it more acceptable to pay worthy bag boys less or nothing based on the same reasoning that the world´s largest company feels the work they do is not worth paying for.
Once enough people get paid nothing, their worth is exactly that. Have you ever put on your resume how much you got paid on your last job? The reason why is because your personal worth is metered by you. If the last job you had was a CEO, then why do you want minimum wage all of a sudden?
The up-and-comer is also hurt by this sort of behavior, because if they are ¨getting paid¨ in notoriety, not only are they taking a non-paying job, now, it makes it ok next time to ¨farm talent.¨ When will they get paid for their work and make it a viable career? What happens to the career artists that never got a job that was taken for free? Does this all become a hobby?
Google is a user in this case. This is the reason for labor laws. Minimum wage is there because your work isn´t worth money to certain people, and everyone deserves to get paid for a job that they do.
Also, internet money never paid bills. So what if you made the skin on my browser? Do I know who designed all of my icons, wallpaper, anything? No. Glad someone did. It was a job well done, and I´m glad they got paid for it. If I could get paid for what I liked doing, it would be a wonderful day in my life. I would never want to force the person who has acheived that to have to take a 9-5er like mine. (especially if the reason was not for a lack of jobs, but for a lack of respect and pay.)
//end rant.// sorry.
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What you are saying is that Google should charitably contribute to up and coming artists. While this would be laudable, it does not mean that Google should be required to do so. Google is a for-profit business, and should rationally only pay for services whose costs are less than or equal to their marginal benefits. This is the basis of our entire economic system, in addition to Google's operations.
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;P
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@joelydanger: It's not like Google's products are ugly right now. I don't cringe at the sight of GMail - in fact, I think that Google has some of the best user interfaces on the internet. Obviously, Google does not have a problem competing with other big companies. I really don't see how not investing in art that it doesn't need will affect its competitiveness.
@CYST!: Are you really comparing this to slavery? There is no longer any point to talking to you...
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If it didn't need the art then it wouldn't be asking designers to do it. They just don't value the visual aspect as much as functionality. Its sad really, because the two go hand in hand. But they're too OCD to relax and take a daring design decision. Imagine if they did.
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What you're discussing is Google's design standards. I believe they're fine, but I could probably be persuaded to think they need to do more, and that "more" will cost money. Doesn't matter; that's a completely separate issue from what this article is discussing.
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Yes other people will think its fair and will take what they can get, but they're only undermining themselves by supporting a dangerous habit that google can make of this. I'm not saying they're being evil at all, but in my opinion when this stuff is being used for the face of chrome, they should pay these people.
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However, when it comes to business, I don't feel comfortable making normative statements (with words like "should") where two parties have come to a mutual agreement.
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And you're right, I shouldn't use the word "should". They have come to a mutual agreement and its wrong to break it. I guess there is a certain amount expected from such a company to put forth in the terms beforehand.
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@tenazrael: You too.
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It would be nice if they bought an American Plane with America's Money!!!
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then why did he allow $150 million to be spent on his inauguration events? that's more than 5 times what was spent on bush's inauguration.
obama...what a fraud.
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You guys use this excuse all the time to justify it but if I had a kid who needed an operation and I was going to have friends help should I spend it on him or a party? I mean there is a moral obligation and an example to set too right?
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I can think of plenty of lefty bleeding-heart organizations that I would have preferred people give their money to.
I get why people wanted to celebrate but I also can think of a lot of good that could have been done with that money.
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"The average age of the world's great civilizations has been two hundred years. These nations have progressed through the following sequence: from bondage to spiritual faith, from spiritual faith to great courage, from courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to selfishness, from selfishness to complacency from complacency to apathy, from apathy to dependency, from dependency back to bondage." Alexander Tyler
"The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under
the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist
program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without
knowing how it happened." Norman Thomas
01/27/09
Jeez. How do you even go outside with that kind of fear complex?
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oh yea? hummmmm i wonder what he was doing a few years ago when regulation rules came in for a vote.
Gizmodo sucks overall now. Besides the apple-centric coverage but total political bias that they do not even TRY to hide.... im off to get my GIZMO and Tech information from another site..
01/27/09
This article (like others) has rose colored glasses on. OMG he saved us tax payers 50 million dollars! No he did not, that money has already been striped from tax payers pockets. It will be spent on "other necessities" I'm just sure.
Does this other Obama article mean anything to you?
[i.gizmodo.com] It's only a 3 million projector, but its cool, It's Obamatastic! If the economy spirals downward under Obama, he just needs one more term to fix it. If it's worse... Bush did it. I get it.
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And I'll agree with you on the inauguration, but crazily enough that was possible because even in this economy thousands and thousands of private citizens thought an inauguration was the best place to donate their money. And they did.
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Do as I say, not as I do.
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The guy is so thrifty they live with her mother!
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..it smells like.... hmmmm....
Socialism.
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But think of how much fun it would be!
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Just an FYI, if the site continues in the overtly partisan political vein, I think you will lose a number of readers.
Oh and does anyone know how much Citi is now going to have to pay in penalties and a possible breach of contract suit for breaking a contract that was entered into several years ago?
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It's a little slack on the "gizmo" side of things, but is not the worst offender on that front by far.
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It's pretty straight-forward.
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But forget the legitimate excess of our government, there's class envy to be had!
01/27/09
Some of us have class envy, but others of us are simply class traitors.
01/27/09
I really wonder why so many people expect Giz to be balanced, fair and non-opinionated. It's just a collection of people who enjoy writing about technology, and occasionally tossing their opinions into the ring. There is no promise of impartiality, fairness or even "nothing but gadgets, gadgets, gadgets!"
People need to pull their heads out of their asses, take the blinders off and stop bitching about the free articles they choose to read.
And, just to head you off at the pass, dear rebuttal writer: Sure, your entitled to your dumb opinion, but it's rather stupid to complain that a bunch of bloggers aren't being fair or living up to your expectations of a free service.
01/27/09
This site is "The Gadget Blog." That's what the site is named. And that's why most people come here. Maybe a majority agree with the partisan slant of the contributors, but it's likely they get their political fix elsewhere.
The recent rash of political stories - wholly unrelated to gadgets - is going to result in some folks who don't agree with the slant (or simply want to read about gadgets without dealing with more political garbage - me) deciding they can get their gadget fix elsewhere. Engadget comes quickly to mind.
:shrug:
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Well we kinda expect Giz to be unbiased because they are respected journalists. And I personally read because they report news. Crazy, I know. So good job on berating everyone who takes the time to read this blog, even better job on essentially telling the sponsors of this site they are wasting their money, and Finally Fantatsitc job on informing Gizmodo they aren't worthy of respect and the work they do is worth more than that cheese you get after a long run when you pull back the foreskin on your penis, God I hate that!! But yeah thanks!
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brush of enlightenment."
If anyone feels slighted, insulted, disenchanted, jaded or otherwise discombobulated while reading my comments, then good. I'm not here to stroke egos or make sure everybody feels warm and fuzzy inside.
Gizmodo is not a respected news site staffed by respected journalists. While some have a journalistic background, that does not unequivocally make them "respected journalists" by any stretch of the imagination. By and large they are childish technology lovers who've made a bad name for themselves by acting irresponsibly, both in writing false articles and pulling childish (and potentially legally actionable) stunts at tradeshows.
Do I like the Giz? Sure, there's plenty to like. But does that mean I'm going to pull the blinders on and pretend they are ethical, unbiased, professional reporters? Absolutely not. The Giz makes money (as do all Gawker Media affiliates) based on click-throughs, hence it behooves them to makes catchy eyecandy headlines and generate as much troll-like buzz as possible. This, in and of itself, leads to unethical reporting.
They are not automatically worthy of respect after a number of stunts they've pulled, but overall I enjoy the atmosphere here which is, for the most part, better than other tech blogs. All the above does not automatically imply that I wouldn't think any of them isn't a fun, interesting and personable individual, either.
I can see how you got your star. You're an ass kisser who doesn't bother to question anything. Who the fuck are you, the Good Feeling Fairy?
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-ABC News
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What Citibank, Starbucks or any company does with their money is nobody's business but their own. If they want to do something that you think is stupid why don't you take the risk and start your own company and do it the way you'd like.
01/27/09
a) The government has been telling me that I'm making too much money since I started making money.
b) When I asked my gramma for $5 to go buy her her denture-paste, and then my gramma gave me $5 to go buy her denture-paste, and then I ran off and used it to purchase Everlasting Gobstoppers, she had every right to tell me to take the Gobstoppers back and smack me on the wrist. Which she did.
01/27/09
They claimed they were in such dire straits that they required billions of dollars. Is it really too much to ask that they don't go spending it on pimped out private jets? And, so far as I can see, he didn't force them not to buy it, he's simply suggesting, in rather firm tones, that they rethink their spending spree plans.