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rospaya
11/25/08

In reply to Greenpeace Green Scorecard: Nokia Wins, Apple Fails, Nintendo Crashes Again
I really love Gizmodo, and since I'm a tech journalist myself, part of my job is being constantly informed - this is where Gizmodo comes in.

But help me god, the people commenting here are biased as hell. If it was the other way: Nokia bad and Apple good, trolls would be all over Nokia/Microsoft/anybody who isn't Apple, and celebrate Steve Jobs's eco friendliness and concern about the environment.

Not one person wrote: "Good job Nokia", or "Wow, Lenovo should do way better". Most of you are a trolling bunch of blind fanboys, the rest has my deepest respect, because they are the reason I read Gizmodo and not Engadget.
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Rabid Penguin
11/26/08

@rospaya: For the record I don't like Apple... but I think I dislike Greenpeace even more. Is Nokia green? Quite frankly I don't care. I'd still rather own a Nintendo DS than a freakin' N-Gage.
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Noobs-R-Us
11/25/08

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Greenpeace won't be happy until Apple makes their iPods and Macs out of toilet paper and compost.
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Rabid Penguin
11/25/08

@sharmanova: That's because socialists are drunk on other people's whiskey.
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EBone
11/25/08

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Funny for me because a Greenpeace volunteer approached me yesterday while I was walking back to my office from lunch. I said "no thanks" when he pushed his clipboard for me to sign in front of me as I continued to walk by. He said as I continued walking, "I guess you don't have time to save the planet."

God that pissed me off. I turned around and told him "Listen, I permitted and built over 250 megawatts of wind power in the last 12 months. I think I've done plenty to save the planet."

The arrogance of some little college prick being paid by Greenpeace to collect signatures, assuming that average Joe me just rapes the planet everyday without a thought made me want to knock him on his ass.
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Kaiser-Machead
11/25/08

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Love,

Greenpeace
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Jafro
11/25/08

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I think I know why the recycling rate is only 17%. Build quality.

Every mac I've ever bought since 1995 still works. I have a 2001 G3 iMac running Tiger in my garage streaming AirTunes. My G3-upgraded PowerMac 9500 is running Tiger, as well. Maybe if their old hardware was incompatible with semi-modern OS's or if it would actually fail, then there'd be a much higher recycling rate?

How's that for clarification on your 7-year old sales data, Greenpee's? Hmmm.....
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IN THE FACE!
11/25/08

@Jafro: So? you still haven't recycled them either way...
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Lite: hates Illinois Nazis
11/25/08

@bpapa9013: They're still being re-used. Which is preferable to recycling. Duh.
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dwight-schrute
11/25/08

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I don't know who I hate more, Greenpeace or PETA.
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ripfire
11/25/08

@dwight-schrute: Oh come on. Greenpeace is nowhere near the same scale of hate as PETA.
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IN THE FACE!
11/25/08

@dwight-schrute: PeTA is reduntantly, retardedly, counterproductively disorganized (as an organization).

Their own ethics don't match up with their purported goals most of the time.

Did any one else hear about the PeTA shelter that spent more than three quarters of its yearly budget on euthanizing stray animals? I think the operator was quoted as saying something to the effect of "Better dead than a pet!"
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TheJollyGreenGiant
11/25/08

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you know... i like to consider myself a pretty environmentally friendly guy...

but fuck greenpeace.

their group and its ratings are driven by much more than environmental standards.
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11/25/08

@TheJollyGreenGiant: Drugs? My guess would definitely be environmental standards and drugs.

Definitely.
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Rabid Penguin
11/25/08

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I wonder which type of computer they used to make that graph.
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LewPhoenix
11/25/08

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Fuck Greenpeace! I hope they all get killed by the whales or polar bears or whatever it is they have decided is more important than human life.
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cmaceachen
11/25/08

@LewPhoenix: yeah, fuck them for trying to make this world a little better for all of us. bastards.
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Rabid Penguin
11/25/08

@cmaceachen: Hahaha. You have me going there for a second. Good one. Best comment of the day.
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Lite: hates Illinois Nazis
11/25/08

@Rabid Penguin: A greenpeace shill tried to ask me if I liked polar bears. You, as a penguin, I felt might appreciate this.

I looked at him and said, "I hate polar bears. Why would I try to save them? If I were face-to-face with a polar bear, do you think it would be trying to save me? No, it'd be trying to eat me. So the only polar bear I like is the dead kind serving as a rug in my home."

He blinked a few times, and said, "What about trees? Do you like trees?"

To which I responded, "Yep, I love them. Especially when they're cut up and lit on fire in my fireplace while I lounge about on my nice polar bear rug! No thank you, I don't donate money to terrorist organizations."
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Rabid Penguin
11/25/08

@Lite: Haha. Polar Bears are vicious killers. The only real way to subdue them is to cut down a rain forest, beat a whale to death with the trees, use the whale to distract the polar bear while you drive around on his iceberg with your SUV to melt it into the ocean.
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iAirmanshirk
11/25/08

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Good to see nokia is winning at something these days
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iAirmanshirk
11/25/08

lmfao the fact that you just compared nokias 12,000 models to apple's one is laughable, however it still means apple is doing good. keep selling iphone!
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w1n570n the pretty good
11/25/08

@iAirmanshirk: 12,000? Nokia has about 5 comparable phones to the iPhone.
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ttech10
11/25/08

@Qwertyfreak's brilliant message to the world - below:

Yea, those 5 to the iPhone... and then add in their other 5,000 phone models they have.
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11/25/08

@ttech10: Some consumers like having a choice between different phones, but don't worry I don't expect you to understand...
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soulfinger
11/25/08

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I guess it's good PR (read: money maker) for Greenpeace to constantly bash Apple. I guess they'll not give them any credit until they are making laptops and iPods out of recycled tree bark.

I used to vocally support efforts like theirs, but they have turned into nothing but a ring of extortionists.
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BanMeAgainBrianLam
11/25/08

@soulfinger: Yeah! They should buy crapple's marketing hook line and sinker like everyone else. How dare they stick to their evaluation criteria when there's a slick comercial out.
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11/25/08

@soulfinger: Because GreenPeace gets paid by all of the companies that land on the green side of the dial...

I think you forgot your tinfoil hat, awww that's cute it matches your MacBook Pro.
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Lite: hates Illinois Nazis
11/25/08

@soulfinger: Actually, they've openly said that high visibility companies are exactly who they target, because it generates the greatest level of sensationalism and return for minimal effort.
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Lite: hates Illinois Nazis
11/25/08

@BanMeAgainBrianLam: Not to mention they pay the people who "collect" signatures for them per signature.
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