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    Image of nutbastard nutbastard
    12:50 PM

    In reply to SWAT Team Called In Over a Lego Gun
    i'd weigh in on this, but it happened in canada, and im not sure what kind of gun laws/rights they have up there.
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    Image of Slinkytech Slinkytech
    07:23 AM

    In reply to SWAT Team Called In Over a Lego Gun
    EDIT: O, well it was in an office, so he could have been an actual psycho, and not a very talented lego builder.

    You're allowed to own guns. You are allowed to own pistols. You are allowed to have them out in the open of your house. He could have been cleaning his pistol. If you don't clean a gun, the residue eats away the barrel and chamber. So you have to clean it.
    So why the FUCK did they send swat for own legal pistol, that wasn't even a pistol? Maybe send ONE officer to check. Or not call the cops at all. WTF.
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    Edited by Slinkytech at 12/07/09 7:24 AM Slinkytech was starred Slinkytech was unstarred
    Image of Andrew Luu Andrew Luu
    10:07 AM

    @Slinkytech: Because it is Canada... they have different laws i e handguns are a no no
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    Image of TheLostVikings R.O.A.C.H. TheLostVikings R.O.A.C.H.
    12/06/09

    In reply to SWAT Team Called In Over a Lego Gun
    Memo to self: Always bring a LEGO gun with you so you can make the SWAT go away.

    Heh, this will make my job so much easier... erm, of course I mean hypothetically speaking. Yes, "hypothetically" speaking MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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    TheLostVikings R.O.A.C.H. was starred TheLostVikings R.O.A.C.H. was unstarred
    Image of CaseyG CaseyG
    12/05/09

    In reply to SWAT Team Called In Over a Lego Gun
    "As soon as the team found out the "weapon" was made out of Lego Bricks, everyone went home."

    This sentence illustrates the difference between Canadian and American police. For the jingoists out there, I am an American.

    Cop: "Well, we came all the way out here, so we're gonna arrest you and beat on you for a while, even though you've clearly done nothing wrong."

    LEGO afficionado: "But... but... that makes no sense!"

    Cop: "I know! I hope you like tasers!"
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    Image of N1k0s N1k0s
    12/05/09

    In reply to SWAT Team Called In Over a Lego Gun
    Jeremy's got a gun
    Jeremy's got a gun
    500 lego pieces is not fun
    Just 10 more minutes and he's done
    What did his neighbor do?
    Did he call the police and God knows who?

    They say that when Jeremy was surrounded
    The SWAT team and a chopper came
    But man he wasn't finished
    Only 6 more pieces in on desk
    Call of Duty is not going to be the same.

    Jeremy's got a gun...
    Jeremy's got a gun..
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    Image of Duckspwn Duckspwn
    12/05/09

    In reply to SWAT Team Called In Over a Lego Gun
    As was already mentioned, handguns are illegal in Canada. It is incredibly difficult to obtain one as a normal citizen (legal hoops like crazy), and possessing one is a weighty criminal offense.
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    Image of kestrel1337 kestrel1337
    12/05/09

    @Duckspwn: Owning one is not illegal though there are a lot of hoops to jump though to get one. Carrying it with you unlocked and uncased is another matter.
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    Duckspwn approved this comment kestrel1337 was starred kestrel1337 was unstarred
    Image of Duckspwn Duckspwn
    12/05/09

    @kestrel1337: Mhm. As I said, tons of legals hoops to jump through. Transporting them is also a huge pain in the ass.
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    Image of N1k0s N1k0s
    12/05/09

    In reply to SWAT Team Called In Over a Lego Gun
    Looking at the photo of Jeremy with his finger on the trigger while he's reading the manual, I'm glad it is just a lego gun.
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    Image of MrEvil MrEvil
    12/05/09

    In reply to SWAT Team Called In Over a Lego Gun
    Wow, kinda pretty excessive a police response.

    If you had called the Police in many cities in the US about this they probably wouldn't do anything if you're not seeing the individual doing something wrong. For all the Police know the individual legally purchased the handgun and its his property.
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    Image of YingYangCounter YingYangCounter
    12/05/09

    @MrEvil: Ill tackle both of these at the same time.

    "Pretty excessive response?"
    And "That's a pretty incredible response considering the complete lack of danger."

    Really? First it's not a "lack of Danger" there are office shootings, and Ft Hood, and school shootings. In light of those examples the response is pretty much what should be happening. When the call comes in, how in the world is the police to know it's lego? People would be criticizing them the other way if it were real and they sent in a patrol man alone.

    Can't have it both ways chris, you can't hedge the response and then say you'd respond that way. IT's double speak.

    -----

    looking at the picture, what' the first thing you notice. Gun. registering instructions or lego pieces doesn't come up in my mind. It's unfortunate for Jeremy, now, yes, i know it's lego and the person watched him assemble it, making the caller an Ass.

    Hindsight people. Hindsight and BackSeatDrivingMondayMorningQu....
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    Chris Jacob promoted this comment YingYangCounter was starred YingYangCounter was unstarred
    Image of Chris Jacob Chris Jacob
    12/05/09

    @YingYangCounter: You're right, I should rephrase. I guess what I was going for is that the aggressive response is almost humorous in hindsight. I'll update.
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    Image of MrEvil MrEvil
    12:06 PM

    @YingYangCounter: Generally speaking, when the police do get called out on reports of an individual with a handgun they don't send just one officer. They always send two. But in all reality. In most cities in Texas the most the police would do is send two officers to check in on that person.
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    Image of Nick Nick
    12/05/09

    In reply to SWAT Team Called In Over a Lego Gun
    Shia wuz here.
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    Image of lostarchitect lostarchitect
    12/05/09

    In reply to SWAT Team Called In Over a Lego Gun
    So... why would you call the cops about someone indoors with a gun (who was not exhibiting threatening behavior)? It could have been his and legally owned. Are guns totally banned in this area?
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    Image of Mackinstyle Mackinstyle
    12/05/09

    @lostarchitect: Yep. No handguns in Canada. Makes things much safer.
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    Image of bagellord bagellord
    12/05/09

    @Mackinstyle: I would love to argue that taking guns away from law abiding citizens who are responsible enough to carry a gun makes things more dangerous, but I'm not in the mood to argue that whether or not you ban handguns criminals will still get the weapons they need/want to prey on a now unarmed populace.
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    Image of RyaninCalgary RyaninCalgary
    12/05/09

    @lostarchitect: You're allowed to own hand guns in Canada. You just can't take them to the office. They're a restricted license weapon. Your house and to and from the gun range is about it.
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    lostarchitect promoted this comment RyaninCalgary was starred RyaninCalgary was unstarred
    Image of Aweb Aweb
    12/05/09

    @bagellord: I would love to argue about the fact that USA's criminality rate and deaths by fire weapon numbers are much higher than in any other developped country (that don't allow guns).
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    Nathan Obbards promoted this comment The5thElephant approved this comment Aweb was starred Aweb was unstarred
    Image of The5thElephant The5thElephant
    12/05/09

    @bagellord: I don't have the numbers, so I can't say for sure, but I imagine criminals use their guns on other criminals more often than on innocents. Anyone have any stats that can confirm or refute this?
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    Image of MrEvil MrEvil
    12/05/09

    @Aweb: That's not a fair comparison to make since we do allow private citizens gun ownership and it's guaranteed as a right in our constitution. Countries that ban guns have their fair share of violent crime even with a gun ban. Its just that the tool of choice becomes something just as deadly and more easily obtained.

    Not only that, but we're directly next door to several developing nations with a host of political, social, and economic problems. You go further and further East in Europe towards the former Soviet bloc and I'm sure you see the same kinds of issues.
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    Image of bagellord bagellord
    12/05/09

    @Aweb: I'll concede that point, with one caveat. Do the numbers you're using take into account the population/population density of the US versus the other countries?
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    Image of lostarchitect lostarchitect
    12/05/09

    @RyaninCalgary: Huh. Ok, but still, how was the SWAT response proportional? It seems like if the guy was not shooting up the place or threatening people, even if he had a real gun, responding like that was a little bit insane. Am I crazy here?
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    Image of OW-Holmes:Bringer of Fear OW-Holmes:Bringer of Fear
    12/05/09

    In reply to SWAT Team Called In Over a Lego Gun
    In elementary school lego gun fights were how most days were spent. Sure they weren't black legos, but I can't imagine that going over too well now.

    What does this guy do that he can play with legos and Call of Duty? I want that job.
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    Image of B3ND3R B3ND3R
    11/20/09

    In reply to Bitch-Busting, Ammo-Counting Aliens Gun Is Real, Scary
    I suppose that those are some nifty gizmos for "conventional" warfare, but prior to the imminent Zombie Apocalypse I plan on securing an AA-12.
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    Canoehead promoted this comment B3ND3R was starred B3ND3R was unstarred
    Image of Canoehead Canoehead
    11/20/09

    @B3ND3R: Gonna have to use this more in CoD....
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    Image of mruler360 mruler360
    11/20/09

    @Canoehead: I would suggest against it, it's quite crap in MW2.
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    Canoehead promoted this comment mruler360 was starred mruler360 was unstarred
    Image of Canoehead Canoehead
    11/21/09

    @mruler360: Agreed - tried it a bit this weekend. No range and doesn't exactly hit like a sledgehammer at short range.
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    Canoehead was starred Canoehead was unstarred
    Image of ddhboy ddhboy
    11/20/09

    In reply to Bitch-Busting, Ammo-Counting Aliens Gun Is Real, Scary
    And this is why saying that the second amendment is a good idea to fend off a possible military take over doesn't work as an excuse. Military technology is light years ahead of what you're able to buy legally in most states
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    Canoehead promoted this comment ddhboy was starred ddhboy was unstarred
    Image of Canoehead Canoehead
    11/20/09

    @ddhboy: Sure, but you don't need to win. Assuming your cause is just, you just need to hold out long enough and cause enough trouble that it is more trouble than it is worth to crush you.
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    Image of Zanzan42 Zanzan42
    11/20/09

    @Canoehead: The difference (at least compared to the American Revolution and Indian independence) is that England was separated from its colonies by a vast ocean.

    Any armed American Revolution today would probably look more like the Civil War, except that the military has equipment that is orders of magnitude beyond what a private citizen can get. Not pretty.
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    Canoehead promoted this comment Zanzan42 was starred Zanzan42 was unstarred
    Image of Canoehead Canoehead
    11/20/09

    @Zanzan42: Civil war never is pretty, but is still better than a massacre of unarmed citizens. While US military hardware is certainly orders of magnitude more advanced than anything in civilian hands (and that's fine with me), to use that hardware on a sustained basis against a widely popular civil insurrection would require a level of callousness that I don't believe exists in the US population at large, nor does it exist among the ranks of the military.

    I guess my point is that a completely disarmed citizenry can be relatively easily cowed by an armed, organized military force, whereas an armed citizenry raises the "pain threshold" such that voting populace and/or the military may decide that the price in blood, treasure and bad PR is too high and that a non-violent solution should be applied. Of course, there are no guarantees in life (and even less so in warfare), and an armed citizenry is not the only bulwark against a tyrannical government, but it is one that I would be loathe to lose.
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    Image of Jeb_Hoge Jeb_Hoge
    11/20/09

    In reply to Bitch-Busting, Ammo-Counting Aliens Gun Is Real, Scary
    To be pedantic, the grenades aren't actually laser-guided. That implies that they home on reflected laser energy and have an internal guidance mechanism. This is simply a rangefinding and automated sight elevation system, which is quite ingenious in its own right but not the same thing as a true laser guidance system. [In my head, I hear Sheldon from Big Bang Theory saying all this]
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    Image of Jack_Burton Jack_Burton
    11/20/09

    @Jeb_Hoge: Yeah. The airburst weapons have actual range-fuses... OICW XM-29 for example: [www.globalsecurity.org]
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    Edited by Jack_Burton at 11/20/09 9:51 PM Jack_Burton was starred Jack_Burton was unstarred
    Image of Apoorva Prasad Apoorva Prasad
    11/21/09

    @Jeb_Hoge: Yep, you're correct about that. But laser-guided grenades just sounds cooler, don't you think!?
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    Edited by Apoorva Prasad at 11/21/09 5:04 AM Apoorva Prasad was starred Apoorva Prasad was unstarred
    Image of Parapraxis Parapraxis
    11/20/09

    In reply to Bitch-Busting, Ammo-Counting Aliens Gun Is Real, Scary
    GAME OVER MAN!!! Game over!

    [/hudson]
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    Wilson Rothman promoted this comment Parapraxis was starred Parapraxis was unstarred
    Image of Hachiken Hachiken
    11/22/09

    @Parapraxis: "Why don't we build a fire? Sing a few songs?"
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