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    Image of Pope John Peeps II Pope John Peeps II
    12/17/09

    In reply to Iraqi Militants Hack $4.5m Predator Drones With $26 Windows Shareware
    HAY GUYZ hasz anyone heard the one about MILITARY INTELLIGENCE?!?! It's funny because it's an OX MORON.

    Has anyone posted that yet? Becuz if not: FIRST!
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    Image of gunluva is prepared to drop. gunluva is prepared to drop.
    12/17/09

    In reply to Iraqi Militants Hack $4.5m Predator Drones With $26 Windows Shareware
    Why isn't this a MW2 perk, or something? It'd be awesome to hack someone's Predator missile away from them, if you're quick on the draw. Or their UAV recon.
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    Image of crackel crackel
    12/17/09

    In reply to Iraqi Militants Hack $4.5m Predator Drones With $26 Windows Shareware
    I love how when it's time to prosecute or comment on a politician's actions, "American lives were put at stake, National Security blah blah 9-11 blah." But when it's the military that fucks up, it's all good.

    The military is not unlike the Church of Scientology - they're holier than thou, but they'll fuck you long and hard if they can. Discipline and accountability are a function of politics, not of the severity of the transgression.
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    Image of mazwoz mazwoz
    12/17/09

    @crackel: Really, do you know anything about the miliatary or the Air Force? We just fired our cheif of staff and our secretary of the air force for messing up.

    Their people messed up and flew live nukes across the country and our top officials paid the price. Please take your bullshit somewhere else.
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    Image of crackel crackel
    12/18/09

    @mazwoz: I spent 8 years in the military, your condescending attitude is unnecessary.

    Your point is as extreme a case as they come, but people are fired over politics not the severity of the transgression. Otherwise, many more would have been indicted. Those guys are responsible for what happens on their watch, butgimmeabreak. "Messing up" has a VERY wide definition, is incredibly subjective even under many articles of the ucmj, and a toy word for commanding officers to throw around under Article 15.

    I've seen nco's get nothing after a DUI and young soldiers have their careers ruined by having a beer in their barracks. If you haven't seen this kind of behavior, you're either a huge rookie, ignorant, or a liar.
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    Image of mazwoz mazwoz
    12/18/09

    @crackel: I have seen tons of this type of action, however you said that holier than thou, but they'll fuck you long and hard if they can. Discipline and accountability are a function of politics, not of the severity of the transgression.

    I know many military members that have been knocked down and or fired over the things they have done.

    When were you in the military and what branch? I have a feeling it was a long time ago and something other than the Air Force.

    You sir have a good day and stop your "Holier than thou" attitude
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    Image of crackel crackel
    12/17/09

    In reply to Iraqi Militants Hack $4.5m Predator Drones With $26 Windows Shareware
    Military IT requirements and rules are so complex and convoluted that people spent the majority of their time gathering signatures and complying with Air Force idiots that don't have a clue about IT, and forgot about the basics.

    I was a sysadmin at the Reactor Department in the USS Ronald Reagan - we rely heavily on overpaid contractors and we are burdened with an idiot chain of command.

    I am not surprised to read about this AT ALL.
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    Image of Jrsy Devil's Advocate® Jrsy Devil's Advocate®
    12/17/09

    In reply to Iraqi Militants Hack $4.5m Predator Drones With $26 Windows Shareware
    I'm pretty sure they probably didn't actually pay the 26 bucks for the software.
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    Image of badhatharry badhatharry
    12/17/09

    @Jrsy Devil's Advocate®: Does this mean that Demonoid will go to Guantanamo?
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    Image of taniquetil taniquetil
    12/17/09

    @badhatharry:

    Too late for Gitmo.
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    Image of badhatharry badhatharry
    12/17/09

    @taniquetil: So then will Demonoid be tried in Federal Court, or by a Military Tribunal? Trying Demonoid in New York could put American lives at risk.
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    Image of makopolo makopolo
    12/17/09

    @badhatharry: don't worry, his iPhone wont work.
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    Image of badhatharry badhatharry
    12/17/09

    @makopolo: Yay.
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    Image of taniquetil taniquetil
    12/17/09

    @badhatharry: I think it would have to be a military tribunal.

    Can you imagine trying to convict Demonoid in front of a "jury of their peers"?

    I can't tell if that was a really good pun or a really bad pun.
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    Edited by taniquetil at 12/17/09 2:29 PM taniquetil was starred taniquetil was unstarred
    Image of badhatharry badhatharry
    12/17/09

    @taniquetil: It was hidden, and therefore as good as puns can get. Which is still bad.
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    Image of Dr. Evil Genius is eagerly anticipating the Year of the Black Rainbow Dr. Evil Genius is eagerly anticipating the Year of the Black Rainbow
    12/17/09

    In reply to Iraqi Militants Hack $4.5m Predator Drones With $26 Windows Shareware
    It appears as of now that the Secret Service hasn't shut them down as 'a matter of National Security' yet.

    I just check their site and they are currently up and ready for Predator Drone-hacking-downloading.
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    Image of voxmatt voxmatt
    12/17/09

    @Dr. Evil Genius is eagerly anticipating the Year of the Black Rainbow: Secret Service shutting them down? This is an idiotic comment...
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    Dr. Evil Genius is eagerly anticipating the Year of the Black Rainbow promoted this comment voxmatt was starred voxmatt was unstarred
    Image of badhatharry badhatharry
    12/17/09

    @Dr. Evil Genius is eagerly anticipating the Year of the Black Rainbow: Secret Service is part of the Treasury Dept. They handle counterfeiting, and because they were the only federal law enforcement department at the time, they protect the President. This falls under the military. Not sure which branch. Possibly Coast Guard.
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    Image of Segador Segador
    12/17/09

    @badhatharry: Go look up the Navy rating "CTN". It's public knowledge, and it's all I'll say.
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    Image of badhatharry badhatharry
    12/17/09

    @Segador: I think that's a course at DeVry.
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    Image of Segador Segador
    12/17/09

    @badhatharry: Not quite.
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    Image of YingYangCounter YingYangCounter
    12/17/09

    @[gizmodo.com] explanation is incorrect.When the /first/ program went in, the SS is part of Treasury. right. correct. The only Federal law enforcement Dept? FBI, Immigration, National Park Police, Customs, even the IRS has Federal agents (there are more, but i think you get my point). Unless something is actively happening, it is the responsibility of the Iinspector General office to bring highlight the hole in the program (and report it to apporiate exectutive or congressional committies); else FBI has top role. That being said, an unencrypted download protected by "Information source ignorance." is not a strategy most people approve off.

    Still, many an enigma machine was stolen by pointing in the wrong direction. So... I'll wait to hear the real story 10 weeks from now.
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    badhatharry promoted this comment Edited by YingYangCounter at 12/17/09 12:33 PM YingYangCounter was starred YingYangCounter was unstarred
    Image of Dr. Evil Genius is eagerly anticipating the Year of the Black Rainbow Dr. Evil Genius is eagerly anticipating the Year of the Black Rainbow
    12/17/09

    @voxmatt: If you have been paying attention over the last 9 or so years, the government will do anything or use anyone to further their agenda.

    Picking apart a joke on the interwebs doesn't make you look like a scholar.
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    Image of badhatharry badhatharry
    12/17/09

    @Segador: That was a joke. But one of the requirements is at least a 10th grade education. No college necessary. Not exactly faith-inspiring.
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    Edited by badhatharry at 12/17/09 2:06 PM badhatharry was starred badhatharry was unstarred
    Image of badhatharry badhatharry
    12/17/09

    @YingYangCounter: From Wikipedia:

    "At the time, (1865) the only other federal law enforcement agencies were the United States Park Police, U.S. Post Office Department, Office of Instructions and Mail Depredations, now known as the United States Postal Inspection Service, and the United States Marshals Service. The Marshals did not have the manpower to investigate all crime under federal jurisdiction, so the Secret Service was used to investigate everything from murder to bank robbery to illegal gambling. After the assassination of President William McKinley in 1901, Congress informally requested that the Secret Service begin to provide presidential protection."

    Founding date of the FBI: 1908

    Founding date of the IRS: 1953

    Secret Service was chosen because they were pretty much the only game in town other than the military. Don't know why they weren't chosen.
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    Edited by badhatharry at 12/17/09 2:12 PM badhatharry was starred badhatharry was unstarred
    Image of YingYangCounter YingYangCounter
    12/18/09

    @badhatharry: And the predator program *the topic of conversation* started in 1996...

    my point, however interesting the Wiki Article is, still stands. And your own quote, disputes your own claim of, and I quote "only federal law enforcement department at the time."

    You just highlighted several. you highlight i'm still correct.
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    Image of badhatharry badhatharry
    12/18/09

    @YingYangCounter: You're right. There were other Federal Law enforcement departments at the time. You got me on that. However, the ones that you listed didn't exist then, and who are you going to use? Park Rangers? The Postal Inspection Service?

    And threads have a habit of diverting from the topic of conversation quite a bit here. This one diverted into what the Secret Service does. You're in an entirely different conversation. But if you want to talk about who should fix this, then I don't know, the fucking military?
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    Image of Odin Odin
    12/17/09

    In reply to Iraqi Militants Hack $4.5m Predator Drones With $26 Windows Shareware
    At least they can't take control of them (yet). This might provide them with an early warning system if it isn't fixed though.
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    Image of BeyondtheTech BeyondtheTech
    12/17/09

    In reply to Iraqi Militants Hack $4.5m Predator Drones With $26 Windows Shareware
    Great. And, I paid four dollars more for SlingPlayer Mobile and I can't even get it to work over 3G on my iPhone.
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    Image of TonyWonder TonyWonder
    12/17/09

    In reply to Iraqi Militants Hack $4.5m Predator Drones With $26 Windows Shareware
    Bud if this video clip doesn't sum up this story I don't know what does....
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    Image of Yerzriknot Yerzriknot
    12/17/09

    In reply to Iraqi Militants Hack $4.5m Predator Drones With $26 Windows Shareware
    I'm Al-Qaeda and I'm a PC.
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    Image of TonyWonder TonyWonder
    12/17/09

    @Yerzriknot: ohhh I smell a future "Laptop Hunter" commercial!!!..."This is Muhammad Ala Akbar Al Zahiti he told us he needed a laptop to destroy America for under 1000$ we told him you find it you keep it"
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    Image of Brett Benedict Brett Benedict
    12/17/09

    @TonyWonder: "To me Macs are all about style, which is banned in my country, while PCs have the power to crush an entire - hey, BluRay!"
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    Image of TonyWonder TonyWonder
    12/17/09

    @Brett Benedict: its true those sexy lines on the macbook air might get me stoned to death...
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    Image of Akhen Akhen
    12/17/09

    In reply to Iraqi Militants Hack $4.5m Predator Drones With $26 Windows Shareware
    Completely accidental discovery on the militants part. They were really just looking for movie, best music and funny pictures for free.
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    Image of Homerjay is utterly alone. Homerjay is utterly alone.
    12/17/09

    In reply to Iraqi Militants Hack $4.5m Predator Drones With $26 Windows Shareware
    Popcorn...!
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    Image of hbuzzell hbuzzell
    12/17/09

    In reply to Is the Nook Officially a Tablet?
    I still really want one but the price and the waiting on it is preventing me from ordering one; maybe once I can just buy it and get it right away! My mom just bought one through for herself for Christmas (should arrive in Feb) so I will get to see if I really want my own then!
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    Image of brianmi40 brianmi40
    12/17/09

    @hbuzzell: As a Giz reader, I'm surprised you want something so limited in its functionality. My Viliv X70 arrives tomorrow and it has so much more functionality; with Windows XP, 32G SSD, GPS and optional 3G it can also surf, read RSS feeds, play 720p movies, run productivity apps like PIMs, etc. etc.

    I just sold my Sony eReader to defray the cost somewhat!

    Closer in cost to the Nook, the Lighthouse SQ7 would also be a better deal I think, but I don't think anyone's gotten a DRM enabled eBook reader on it yet.
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    Image of Lester-M4ko Lester-M4ko
    12/17/09

    @hbuzzell: Wait. You mean your mom bought one for herself for xmas but didn't buy you one? I hate xmas in America.
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    Image of RT100 RT100
    12/17/09

    @brianmi40: As a giz reader, I'm surprised you want something so limited in functionality. My Macbook Pro is in my hands right now and has so much more functionality; with OS 10.6.2, 640GB SATA, GPS and 802.11N/ gigabit ethernet, along with a backlit keyboard, crisp 13" screen, 2.26GHz Core 2 Duo, I can surf, read RSS feeds, play 1080p movies, run productivity apps like Microsoft Office, etc. etc.

    I just sold my child to defray the cost somewhat!

    It sounds kinda stupid when i say it, doesn't it.

    hm.

    If hbuzzel wants to buy something, I'd say stop berating them and just let them be satisfied with what they get
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    hbuzzell promoted this comment RT100 was starred RT100 was unstarred
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    12/17/09

    @brianmi40: I am saving my money for my new laptop to buy in the summer and currently read books on my laptop now but unfortunately my current laptop and my new laptop and it's 17" monitor will not fit in my small purse when I am going somewhere and would like to have a book with me (and reading books on my Blackberry and my iPod, which I also can do right now, is starting to get harder to do since my eyes are not so great any more). But thanks for the criticism!
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    Image of hbuzzell hbuzzell
    12/17/09

    @RT100: Thanks for the support of my toy buying!
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    Image of brianmi40 brianmi40
    12/17/09

    @hbuzzell: It wasn't a criticism in any way, just a question.

    Behind it perhaps lies an open question to Giz's populace: do readers prefer their gadgets in greater numbers (e.g. having one of each tuned to its function), or, fewer in number with a greater set of functions (tradeoff being often that they don't do some of them well).

    My comment was intended only to indicate that I favor the Swiss Army Knife end of the pool and to give you a chance to confirm that you'll be happy on the other end of the pool. Neither end is intrinsically better; it depends on the person using it.
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    Image of hbuzzell hbuzzell
    12/17/09

    @brianmi40: I would like to have a laptop that did everything and fit in my purse but unfortunately I need a larger laptop monitor and more laptop features than the little ones provide. I would prefer less toys that do more but overall, I just need stuff that I can use (which for some reason turns out to be separate stuff most of the time).
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    Image of Grive Grive
    12/17/09

    @brianmi40: Battery life. Outdoor usability.

    There's little to no comparison. Why would someone want to use a blackberry or iPhone, when they could get a laptop with skype?

    Because the phones excel at their primary function - so does the nook/kindle.
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    Image of brianmi40 brianmi40
    12/17/09

    @RT100: ahh, enter the Mac fanboy. Sorry if you misread mate, but no one was "berating" anyone. I just asked them a question, but hey, thanks for jumpin in.
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    Image of OCEntertainment OCEntertainment
    12/17/09

    In reply to Is the Nook Officially a Tablet?
    Well it's hard to call homebrew software on a hacked device "officially" anything, but your point is well-taken.

    Still want one. Still can't justify the purchase.
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    12/16/09

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