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    Screw the Voice Plan: The Rumored Google Phone May Be Data/Voip Only

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    Image of SQLGuru SQLGuru
    11/18/09

    In reply to Screw the Voice Plan: The Rumored Google Phone May Be Data/Voip Only
    I think we will be seeing something significant from Google in the voice recognition field in about 3 to 5 years. The reason for all of these voice related techs (Google Voice, VOIP, etc.) is that they are collecting data on what voice sounds like by a LOT of different people. Car, Kaaa, Cawr, etc. They'll be able to do something special with all of that data once they've analyzed it.
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    Image of Charbax2 Charbax2
    11/18/09

    In reply to Screw the Voice Plan: The Rumored Google Phone May Be Data/Voip Only
    How much does VOIP take in bandwidth usage? Perhaps as little as 20kbit/s. So for 1GB of data per month, you could have 111 hours of VOIP conversations on Google Voice. People don't talk that much on the phone, so Google could most definitely provide up to something like 50 hours of free Google Voice usage with a 100-dollar basic Android phone, and no contracts needed.
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    Image of DustyButt™ DustyButt™
    11/18/09

    In reply to Screw the Voice Plan: The Rumored Google Phone May Be Data/Voip Only
    So... You use their search engine, you (potentially) could use their OS, and surf the web on their browser. To get a phone you submit to a credit check, so they then get you're vital economic info. While using their phone they can track your location real-time. Drop it all into one big information vat, and...

    ...Ohhh boy...
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    Image of nutbastard nutbastard
    11/18/09

    In reply to Screw the Voice Plan: The Rumored Google Phone May Be Data/Voip Only
    hmmm... if i had more money, i'd get an iphone. as it stands, i carry an ipod touch and a nokia shitbrick on cheap t-mo prepaid.

    if i got a google phone, i don't think i'd forgo the shitbrick - but how much are we talking here for a data plan?

    as much as i'd like to have the internet everywhere, having the wikidump on the ipod seems to suffice, at least for finding things out.

    on the other hand, i'd be carrying 3 devices that are all kinda sorta doing similar things. ideally, att would offer a fixed rate data plan on an iphone and let voice remain prepaid, but i dont see that happening... and i only use about 1500 minutes of voice per year, ($150 on t-mo) so i can't justify switching to anything at this point.
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    Image of Decad3nce Decad3nce
    11/18/09

    @nutbastard: you didnt notice the thing about VOIP did you?
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    Image of nutbastard nutbastard
    11/18/09

    @Decad3nce:

    oh i did, but VOIP is useless to me, as broadband isn't available where i live (ironically im 20 minutes from both apples and googles HQs)
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    11/18/09

    @Decad3nce:

    er, wait, are you saying that it'll do VOIP over 3G or something?!
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    Image of Decad3nce Decad3nce
    11/18/09

    @nutbastard: That's where all things are heading.. inevitably; whether the telecos want it or not.

    #tips
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    Image of nutbastard nutbastard
    11/18/09

    @Decad3nce:

    well that, sir, is a horse of another color. shit - it isn't even a horse any more.
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    Image of Decad3nce Decad3nce
    11/18/09

    @nutbastard:
    It's more of an Iguana than anything at this point..
    #tips
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    Image of Monty Monty
    11/18/09

    In reply to Screw the Voice Plan: The Rumored Google Phone May Be Data/Voip Only
    It goes without saying (which means I will type it anyway) that if a Google Phone arrives with data support only (VOIP) it will not be the first hardware like this. NetGear and other companies had WiFi / VOIP phones available years ago. In fact, the original iPhone name was not owned by Apple (was it Cisco?) and was used on a VOIP phone. Obviously, Google is going to take this concept many steps further but the hardware that has come before it did not turn the world on fire. Hopefully Google's device will.
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    Image of OCEntertainment OCEntertainment
    11/18/09

    @Monty: To be fair, many other devices and ideas came about that failed to set the world on fire before a following idea did. While it's not a gadget per se, the most ready example I can think of is Wolfenstein and Doom. Wolfenstein, for all intents and purposes was the original first-person shooter. Doom, however, made the genre popular. And as I head home to play Half-Life 2 again, I am thankful to both.

    Additionally, it also goes without saying....
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    Image of Monty Monty
    11/18/09

    @OCEntertainment: Correct, you and the other folks commenting are all absolutely correct. I just find it interesting how it is rarely the first to market that is successful, it is the slightly altered version that comes down the road that is often the one that finds success.

    Of course, I hope we can still get charged per text message sent just to re-live the good old days.
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    Image of yantelope yantelope
    11/18/09

    In reply to Screw the Voice Plan: The Rumored Google Phone May Be Data/Voip Only
    VOIP was set to replace land lines and would have quickly if cell phones didn't already. It makes perfect sense then to be using VOIP for cell phones simply to preserve BW. If there's only so much spectrum to go around we should use it as efficiently as possible and if that means switching all of it to data and then running calls and internet in the same spectrum then I am all for it. Prioritizing voice traffic would be the difficulty especially when it may conflict with net neutrality.
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    Image of ossuary ossuary
    11/18/09

    In reply to Screw the Voice Plan: The Rumored Google Phone May Be Data/Voip Only
    I wouldn't mind one if it allowed me to cut out the telcos altogether... Forget the "data plan". Just give me one with VOIP via wifi and I would be happy.
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    Image of PhineasJW PhineasJW
    11/18/09

    In reply to Screw the Voice Plan: The Rumored Google Phone May Be Data/Voip Only
    Google. Frenemy of the telcos.

    Love it.

    Can we make it a reality show? Like we lock Google VP's and telco CEOs in a house and give them different tasks each week...then at the end of each episode the dumbest telco representative gets kicked out?

    Would watch.
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    Image of Gundem Gundem
    11/18/09

    In reply to Screw the Voice Plan: The Rumored Google Phone May Be Data/Voip Only
    *sigh*

    Google will run the internet soon and after that...the world.
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    Image of SpardaFatalis SpardaFatalis
    11/18/09

    @Gundem: soon? haha... :[
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    Image of Gundem Gundem
    11/18/09

    @SpardaFatalis: I could just imagine when Chrome OS is realeased.

    Google = Skynet
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    Image of SpardaFatalis SpardaFatalis
    11/19/09

    @Gundem: skynet will have nothing on google, they prolly own mars already... poor martians...

    #speakup
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    Image of Gann Gann
    11/18/09

    In reply to Screw the Voice Plan: The Rumored Google Phone May Be Data/Voip Only
    I heard a rumor that Nintendo is releasing their next DS with a "free" 3g connection bundled into the initial cost of the unit - kinda the opposite of the typical cell package where the Initial cost is dispersed across monthly fees.

    I wonder how far fetched it would be for the Google to develop a phone using Nintendo's pricing structure. Pay for the phone, and you get a free 3g connection for all your internet-based services.
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    Image of robotonist robotonist
    11/18/09

    @Gann: but who would provide the 3g connection ?

    similarly, what carrier would want to sell this rumored google phone ? unless they attach a sizable monthly data fee i don't see it as being a likely business venture anyone would want to take on.
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    11/18/09

    @robotonist: From the article: "whenever someone gets on the internet, Google stands to make money."

    For the (crazy) idea to work, google would have to decide it was worth subsidizing the connection to get you on the(ir) internet.
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    Image of met2art met2art
    11/18/09

    In reply to Screw the Voice Plan: The Rumored Google Phone May Be Data/Voip Only
    That sounds more likely, given Google's prior statements to the effect that they had no direct interest in handset manufacturing. However, given their obvious interest in VOIP and Google Voice, this sort of alternative makes more sense.

    Google seems more interested in playing with data, whether that is in the form of an OS, interface or a system of aggregation or routing. A data/VOIP device fits that style, whereas an in-house designed cellphone does not, and as a side benefit, doesn't directly compete with the people they are courting for cell phone handsets.
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    Image of BergenCountyJC can't beat MW2 BergenCountyJC can't beat MW2
    11/18/09

    In reply to Screw the Voice Plan: The Rumored Google Phone May Be Data/Voip Only
    It's about time these mega telephone giants start quivering in their boots. However don't be surprised when you their defensive lawsuits against the GooG ultimately shoot the idea down.
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    Image of DJWeezy DJWeezy
    11/01/09

    In reply to Droid, In Deutschland You Shall Be Called Milestone
    Is O2 CDMA or does that mean people could get a GSM version in the US by buying internationally? #droid
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    Image of something_unique_and_descriptive something_unique_and_descriptive
    11/01/09

    @DJWeezy: I was just going to say "Isn't O2 GSM?" #droid
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    Image of Gordonium Gordonium
    11/01/09

    In reply to Droid, In Deutschland You Shall Be Called Milestone
    *sigh* Queue the "looking for" Droid jokes in 3... 2... 1... #droid
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    Image of TheMightyTexMex TheMightyTexMex
    11/01/09

    @Gordonium: das sind nicht die Droiden suchen wir? #droid
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    Image of PN - gooapplesoft PN - gooapplesoft
    07/04/09

    In reply to Sony Ericsson Kiki Concept
    Maybe its just me but I feel as though from now on we should do touchscreen only. Buttons should not be used in new phones and gadgets. I don't know about this phone but i see three buttons on the cover and it's a future concept.


    Benefits of touchscreen are much more then the ones of button phones.

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    Image of lolgreg lolgreg
    07/05/09

    @PN - Artest->Ariza: Buttons are the way to go.
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