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Why is Monster still around? Oh yeah - people who lap up the hype, have money to burn and don't know any better. Doesn't matter though, never have and never will buy anything from them.
For those of you who don't understand what is going on, it's an ultra thin 1.3 (2560×1600) spec HDMI cable. Not the 1.0-1.2a (1920×1200) cables you see now days available in thin format.
While I agree that most Monster cable is heavily overpriced with no real cost benefit, in this case it seems they're developing an actual real high-end product for people to use.
But of course, most of you people probably think that HDMI is HDMI, and that there's no difference in cable specs or what the cable is capable of supporting. Right?
@Lite: is laughing at the Lazytown/Lil Jon remix: How about the fact that even if the cable did support 2560x1600, it would be useless and 99.99999% of the public would have no way of really testing whether or not it does support 2560x1600.
@asnpcwiz: Actually, you're exaggerating quite a bit, which is amusing but unhelpful.
30" LCD monitors are capable of displaying this resolution. I know for a fact that Dell's higher-end 30" monitor supports HDMI input. Now, Monster has generally been wanting to cater to higher-end users, so they make their cables fashionable, and in this case thin. Something that people with money tend to appreciate, and those who don't have it scoff.
Somewhere around here I have a 25' ultra-thin coax cable from Monster. (Don't worry, I didn't pay for it.) I've used it many times and it's quite a bit easier to hid than having to say, pull up the carpet or drill holes through one's hardwood floors. In fact, the ultra thin cable can often times be hidden behind baseboard trim.
It has useful, if somewhat limited and expensive application. But, of course everyone freaks out because it's Monster, and therefore overpriced crap. It's really only overpriced crap if you don't have or care to spend the money on it.
Hell, I knew on business that used nothing but flat Ethernet cable that they could run under their carpet. (Pre-wireless days.) and due to issues w/ the office construction couldn't drill cables/run them in other ways. Talk about pricey.
Maybe eventually Monoprice will have a 1.3 compliant ultra-thin hdmi cable. However I'm guessing not for a while.
For the record, I've actually been to Monster Cable's factory/corporate HQ. They're not just a marketing company. I couldn't tell the difference between the $10 per foot cable they demoed, and the $100 per foot cable. None. I don't really think their cables are any better than similar generic brands.
But rather than look at what the application for such a cable could be, you have a thread full of people saying: Monster Cable Sucks like a bunch of lemmings who feel they're special because they know the secret about Monster Cable.
@rogsim: Thanks, I will. :) It's great cable to use, when you've paid for none of it! Most of my cable (well speaker anyway) is generic brand, but still good quality.
I've run across a LOT of monster cable that is utter crap. Then again I've jump started my car with a pair of high-end Monster speaker cables. :)
It just amuses me how just because something has limited application for the price, that people assume there's no market for it.
@Lite: is laughing at the Lazytown/Lil Jon remix: True...but the fact of how Monster acts as a company plays a role as well. They think they own anything with monster in the name and have sued way too many people over very frivolous stuff until they couldn't afford to fight it anymore. I would never buy from a company based on that alone. Add to that the price they charge for stuff that is 99% the same as something 1/10 of the price, I don't want to go near them.
Or, Uzi Nissan being sued by Nissan Motors for Nissan.com
Part of Monster's issues is that current trademark law basically requires you to rabidly (overly so) defend your trademarks lest they fall into general use name and you lose general ownership of it.
Which, is pretty stupid, but we don't call non Kleenex brand tissues anything other than a Kleenex for the most part.
I haven't purchased a monster cable in almost 10 years now. I really have no reason to now that other manufacturers started making decent cable.
@armendni: Just pray George Clooney's acceptance speech doesn't meet up with my cloud of smug!
Mostly it irritates me when the information as to why they're producing such a cable is readily available, but they (Giz) conveniently leaves it out so that people will just come in and scream "Monster Sucks!" It's annoying, and what they've written is kind of misleading.
Kind of why some people will pay to buy a Mac, and why others won't. Some people find value in it, others do not.
Maybe I should have been more specific and stated I was talking about TV, or some type of media outputting to a resolution higher than 1080p. I know monitors can do it, and for the most part, I'd say 99.9999% of the public are only using 1080p or less.
And while I understand that Monoprice may not have an ultra "thin" 1.3 compliant cable, I could honestly care less how thick/thin it really is since it's real life application would most likely be hidden inside a wall.
@subryu: Next, they will harness the power of reiki, and infuse it's sympathetic energy along with some homeopathy, and claim it can heal you as well*.
It is going to be so thin, you can not feel it, see it, or detect it with conventional sensors. You can only hook it up w/a special sensor made by Monster and unavailable to the public. This will require a Monster Trained Technician in a special suit which can handle the pure Ion-infused Awesomeness of the cables to do any installations. Any misuse of the cable will destabilize it's matrix, and the cable will disintegrate, requiring you to purchase a new cable, as negligence voids your warranty.
Fool. Surely you're aware of the adamantium bi-weave and diamond filament casing that can shield the signal from even the EMP from a nuclear explosion. Don't you want the purest signal out there?
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While I agree that most Monster cable is heavily overpriced with no real cost benefit, in this case it seems they're developing an actual real high-end product for people to use.
But of course, most of you people probably think that HDMI is HDMI, and that there's no difference in cable specs or what the cable is capable of supporting. Right?
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30" LCD monitors are capable of displaying this resolution. I know for a fact that Dell's higher-end 30" monitor supports HDMI input. Now, Monster has generally been wanting to cater to higher-end users, so they make their cables fashionable, and in this case thin. Something that people with money tend to appreciate, and those who don't have it scoff.
Somewhere around here I have a 25' ultra-thin coax cable from Monster. (Don't worry, I didn't pay for it.) I've used it many times and it's quite a bit easier to hid than having to say, pull up the carpet or drill holes through one's hardwood floors. In fact, the ultra thin cable can often times be hidden behind baseboard trim.
It has useful, if somewhat limited and expensive application. But, of course everyone freaks out because it's Monster, and therefore overpriced crap. It's really only overpriced crap if you don't have or care to spend the money on it.
Hell, I knew on business that used nothing but flat Ethernet cable that they could run under their carpet. (Pre-wireless days.) and due to issues w/ the office construction couldn't drill cables/run them in other ways. Talk about pricey.
Maybe eventually Monoprice will have a 1.3 compliant ultra-thin hdmi cable. However I'm guessing not for a while.
For the record, I've actually been to Monster Cable's factory/corporate HQ. They're not just a marketing company. I couldn't tell the difference between the $10 per foot cable they demoed, and the $100 per foot cable. None. I don't really think their cables are any better than similar generic brands.
But rather than look at what the application for such a cable could be, you have a thread full of people saying: Monster Cable Sucks like a bunch of lemmings who feel they're special because they know the secret about Monster Cable.
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I've run across a LOT of monster cable that is utter crap. Then again I've jump started my car with a pair of high-end Monster speaker cables. :)
It just amuses me how just because something has limited application for the price, that people assume there's no market for it.
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Or, Uzi Nissan being sued by Nissan Motors for Nissan.com
Part of Monster's issues is that current trademark law basically requires you to rabidly (overly so) defend your trademarks lest they fall into general use name and you lose general ownership of it.
Which, is pretty stupid, but we don't call non Kleenex brand tissues anything other than a Kleenex for the most part.
I haven't purchased a monster cable in almost 10 years now. I really have no reason to now that other manufacturers started making decent cable.
@armendni: Just pray George Clooney's acceptance speech doesn't meet up with my cloud of smug!
Mostly it irritates me when the information as to why they're producing such a cable is readily available, but they (Giz) conveniently leaves it out so that people will just come in and scream "Monster Sucks!" It's annoying, and what they've written is kind of misleading.
Kind of why some people will pay to buy a Mac, and why others won't. Some people find value in it, others do not.
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Maybe I should have been more specific and stated I was talking about TV, or some type of media outputting to a resolution higher than 1080p. I know monitors can do it, and for the most part, I'd say 99.9999% of the public are only using 1080p or less.
And while I understand that Monoprice may not have an ultra "thin" 1.3 compliant cable, I could honestly care less how thick/thin it really is since it's real life application would most likely be hidden inside a wall.
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It is obvious that it is limit application for now, and will be for a while. But I'm guessing we'll see TVs begin to leap the 1080 point shortly.
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*The FDA has not shown this to be true.
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