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    Image of Curves Curves
    11/30/09

    In reply to INFLU: The Flu Collector™
    Sorry, but this looks like some kind of mechanized butt kissing device.
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    Image of se7a7n7 se7a7n7
    11/30/09

    In reply to INFLU: The Flu Collector™
    They should also release an INFART model.
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    Edited by se7a7n7 at 11/30/09 12:26 PM se7a7n7 was starred se7a7n7 was unstarred
    Image of weatherman weatherman
    11/30/09

    In reply to INFLU: The Flu Collector™
    I'm going to make my kids wear these until they're in their teens. It will help them improve their immune systems while also making them impervious to public ridicule.
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    Image of RoboBagins RoboBagins
    11/30/09

    @weatherman: And once they're in their teens you're going to make them fight upon a mountain top to determine which one is the hero and which one is the villian?
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    Image of noahyamen noahyamen
    11/30/09

    @RoboBagins: You can joke, but its true. Their immunity would be stronger, and i guess its one way to learn humility
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    Image of RoboBagins RoboBagins
    11/30/09

    @noahyamen: Who said I was joking.

    Also, I tripped my brother off the mountain...
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    Image of Duckspwn Duckspwn
    11/30/09

    @RoboBagins: So you are the villian? Just you watch, the other brother will come back even stronger after years of training with the reclusive mountain ninjas.
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    Image of ninjagin ninjagin
    11/30/09

    In reply to INFLU: The Flu Collector™
    There was an article at MedGadget about a study of the effectiveness of ordinary masks and respirators in medical settings. Turns out that they really don't prevent much unless they're tight-fitting, multi-layered, and biocide-treated. I bought a box of plain masks yesterday, not so much to prevent getting sick, as to help me not spread colds 'n such as easily (which is really what masks are good for anyway). I wonder if you can reverse the airflow on this mask so that you can share your bugs more easily with friends.
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    Image of MacAttack7388 MacAttack7388
    11/30/09

    @ninjagin: I like the way you think.
    We'd be friends... but I'm afraid I'd end up with sars.
     Reply
    ninjagin promoted this comment MacAttack7388 was starred MacAttack7388 was unstarred
    Image of HeartBurnKid: Agent of R.O.A.C.H. HeartBurnKid: Agent of R.O.A.C.H.
    11/30/09

    @ninjagin: Judging by the looks of that fan, reversing the airflow should be as simple as removing the fan and reinstalling it facing the other way. That design should fit the bracket both ways.
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    Image of Slyd3z Slyd3z
    11/30/09

    In reply to INFLU: The Flu Collector™
    Or you could, you know, hang out at a school or daycare. Mad incubation going on where little "chill'ns" are gathered...
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    OCEntertainment promoted this comment Slyd3z was starred Slyd3z was unstarred
    Image of OCEntertainment OCEntertainment
    11/30/09

    @Slyd3z: It also doubles as a quick and effective way to end up arrested and registered in the sex offender databases. Highly efficient!
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    Image of Slyd3z Slyd3z
    11/30/09

    @OCEntertainment: Hey, hey, I just mentioned a sure-fire environment in which to stock up on the crusties. HOW one goes about actually contracting the illnesses is totally up to them (and their possibly deranged leanings).
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    Image of OCEntertainment OCEntertainment
    11/30/09

    @Slyd3z: Really? Cuz it totally looked like you said "Or you could just make out with a bunch of five-year-olds." I mean, I don't have the best eyesight, but I'm pretty sure that's what you wrote. Anyway, I can't be bothered to double-check it now as I'm busy calling the police.
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    Image of Frau Cross Frau Cross
    11/30/09

    @OCEntertainment: I got the idea that he was just saying to be around children, because most were never taught (or enforced) to cover their faces when they sneeze or cough.
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    Curves promoted this comment Frau Cross was starred Frau Cross was unstarred
    Image of Slyd3z Slyd3z
    11/30/09

    @OCEntertainment: What you interpret from my comment says a lot about your personality. Do yourself a favor and make sure to give the po-po your address.
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    Image of fluidexistence fluidexistence
    11/30/09

    @Frau Cross: No, I'm with OC on this. "Incubation" was just some sick, disturbing turn of phrase for the actual intent to "hang out at a school or daycare". Slyd3z is leading the movement to guide our youngest generation into the pit of abused despair.

    Any use of "chill'ns" automatically makes you a sick perv one step away from "To Catch A Predator".

    (Hey, it was a band wagon, I needed a place to sit. Sorry Slyd3z, you were a victim of laziness.)
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    Image of Curves Curves
    11/30/09

    @Frau Cross: Agreed. If I thought there was anything pedo in there, I would be the first to form a mob and burn him at the stake, but I am not even feeling the need to get my torch and pitchfork on this one. I think he is just saying what every parent already knows....that kids gather at "Germ Central" every day in school or day care. ANY germ out there will sooner or later make its way home.
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    Image of GitEmSteveDave_DefinesTurgid GitEmSteveDave_DefinesTurgid
    11/30/09

    In reply to INFLU: The Flu Collector™
    Doesn't make sense. The valve the fan is replacing is the "cool breeze" valve, which lets the exhaled warm humid air escape out the front instead of around the edge of the mask, which fogs your glasses. with this set up, when you exhale, you will be working against the fan, and running down the battery and making the fans life decrease.
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    Image of BergenCountyJC can't beat MW2 BergenCountyJC can't beat MW2
    11/30/09

    In reply to INFLU: The Flu Collector™
    I think the better use for this is for preventing swamp ass.
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    Image of Fractal the Meek Fractal the Meek
    11/25/09

    In reply to Doubt Cast on Man Found to Be Conscious After 23-Year Coma
    First, I fully agree with the sentiment that it's douchey to just say "LIES! LIES! He's a VEGGIE!" There's enough at stake here that the man deserves attention.

    Two problems though. One, using functional communication (bad science) to try and back up the brain scans (better science) could lead us to all sorts of misunderstandings of what we can learn from the scans.

    Second, depending on what's actually going on in this poor guy's body, the dysfunctional communication could just be torturing him all the more if we're misinterpreting what's going on, possibly putting words in his mouth. And THAT is a travesty.
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    Edited by Fractal the Meek at 11/25/09 1:18 PM Fractal the Meek was starred Fractal the Meek was unstarred
    Image of fuchikoma fuchikoma
    11/25/09

    In reply to Doubt Cast on Man Found to Be Conscious After 23-Year Coma
    So a ouija board for the living, then? I was wondering how a man they didn't think was even conscious could use any kind of keyboard...

    I'm not going to conclude he's a fraud though, but I will read whatever I find about this story as it's a very scary thought that this could happen to someone...
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    Image of Voyou_Charmant Voyou_Charmant
    11/25/09

    In reply to Doubt Cast on Man Found to Be Conscious After 23-Year Coma
    Human Ouija Board. Neat. Maybe we can use him to communicate with spirits!

    I feel fairly certain the only thing he is requesting is pornography.
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    Edited by Voyou_Charmant at 11/25/09 9:49 AM Voyou_Charmant was starred Voyou_Charmant was unstarred
    Image of dufus dufus
    11/25/09

    In reply to Doubt Cast on Man Found to Be Conscious After 23-Year Coma
    Shouldn't we just send him to Talos IV? He'd be happier I think.
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    Image of comrade_leviathan comrade_leviathan
    11/25/09

    In reply to Doubt Cast on Man Found to Be Conscious After 23-Year Coma
    I'm still not sure I understand exactly what's being claimed here. He was in a coma for 23 years. In 2006 a doctor "discovered" that his brain was still almost entirely active (either through a scan or this awesomely-reliable Ouija method).

    But when did he officially come out of the non-responsive coma? He obviously wasn't moving his foot "yes" or "no" for the past 23 years, right?

    Come on reporter people! GIVE ME CONTEXT!
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    Odin promoted this comment comrade_leviathan was starred comrade_leviathan was unstarred
    Image of Odin Odin
    11/25/09

    @comrade_leviathan:
    I don't know much about comas but I assume that in some cases there's some minor movement. The movement of his foot is probably only very slight so it likely never raised any red flags when he was in the "coma".
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    Image of comrade_leviathan comrade_leviathan
    11/25/09

    @Odin: So the whole time he was saying "yes" or "no" and no one knew which one meant what?

    How frustrating. I'm doubting the foot movement even happened until after he had come out of the coma and they'd developed a means for him to communicate.
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    Image of Poop Cooper Poop Cooper
    11/25/09

    In reply to Doubt Cast on Man Found to Be Conscious After 23-Year Coma
    FTA: "The James Randi Educational Foundation has offered a million-dollar prize to a valid demonstration of facilitated communication, and Randi invited Houben to participate. 'Our prize is still there,' he said."

    Yes, Randi, taunt the man who's paralyzed and was misdiagnosed as a coma patient for longer than the average college student has been alive.
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    Image of Ryan Heeley Ryan Heeley
    11/25/09

    @Poop Cooper: Do you know who Randi is? He'd never taunt anyone with a disability, if anything he's one of the only sane people left on this world with influence who might be able to save these people from bullshit practices.
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    TheLostVikings R.O.A.C.H. promoted this comment frigg approved this comment Ryan Heeley was starred Ryan Heeley was unstarred
    Image of Poop Cooper Poop Cooper
    11/25/09

    In reply to Doubt Cast on Man Found to Be Conscious After 23-Year Coma
    Simple test: blindfold the helper, hold up an apple, and ask Mr. Houben to identify the fruit in front of him. If he can, great.

    An alternative would be that, if he can signal yes and no with his foot, to simply ask him if what the helper is transcribing is accurately reflecting what he would say in his own words.

    I don't see why there's any reason to debate this situation if he is truly cognizant and has established a system for responding without the aid of a third party.
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    Image of GitEmSteveDave_DefinesTurgid GitEmSteveDave_DefinesTurgid
    11/25/09

    @Poop Cooper: IIRC, when they have performed IQ tests on people with the "help" of a FC, the results of the test often line up with the IQ of the FC, not the patient.
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    Image of Spongehead56 Spongehead56
    11/25/09

    @Poop Cooper:

    They have done studies using similar methods to what you're describing with children with autism. None of them have ever produced accurate results. Ever.
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    Image of FritzLaurel FritzLaurel
    11/25/09

    In reply to Doubt Cast on Man Found to Be Conscious After 23-Year Coma
    Even if someone else wrote the stuff, the dude is apparently still not in a coma if he's actively responding. Keep your eye on the ball, people.
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    Image of myxylplyx myxylplyx
    11/25/09

    @FritzLaurel: Exactly, the point everyone needs to zero in on is was this man in a state of being able to see and hear everything going on around him for 23 years while at the same time not being able to let anyone know? Stop being assholes for a bit and just spend one minute trying to comprehend what it would be like to be conscious for that long and not be able to tell any of the people who thought you were just a vegetable. That would truly be hell on earth.
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    Poop Cooper promoted this comment myxylplyx was starred myxylplyx was unstarred
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    11/25/09

    @myxylplyx: I don't think anyone is being an asshole for saying that they would prefer it if a man who has been paralyzed for 23 years were given the opportunity to speak for himself rather than to have a third party speak for him as him. There's skepticism, but only with the goal of preventing this man from becoming a prop and to maintain his integrity.
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    Image of j.patrick.mathews j.patrick.mathews
    11/25/09

    @myxylplyx: It would also be hell to have finally having people know you are awake, but you don't get to communicate because the facilitator is making up the words.
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