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    Image of Fractal the Meek Fractal the Meek
    11/25/09

    In reply to Doubt Cast on Man Found to Be Conscious After 23-Year Coma
    First, I fully agree with the sentiment that it's douchey to just say "LIES! LIES! He's a VEGGIE!" There's enough at stake here that the man deserves attention.

    Two problems though. One, using functional communication (bad science) to try and back up the brain scans (better science) could lead us to all sorts of misunderstandings of what we can learn from the scans.

    Second, depending on what's actually going on in this poor guy's body, the dysfunctional communication could just be torturing him all the more if we're misinterpreting what's going on, possibly putting words in his mouth. And THAT is a travesty.
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    Edited by Fractal the Meek at 11/25/09 1:18 PM Fractal the Meek was starred Fractal the Meek was unstarred
    Image of fuchikoma fuchikoma
    11/25/09

    In reply to Doubt Cast on Man Found to Be Conscious After 23-Year Coma
    So a ouija board for the living, then? I was wondering how a man they didn't think was even conscious could use any kind of keyboard...

    I'm not going to conclude he's a fraud though, but I will read whatever I find about this story as it's a very scary thought that this could happen to someone...
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    Image of Voyou_Charmant Voyou_Charmant
    11/25/09

    In reply to Doubt Cast on Man Found to Be Conscious After 23-Year Coma
    Human Ouija Board. Neat. Maybe we can use him to communicate with spirits!

    I feel fairly certain the only thing he is requesting is pornography.
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    Edited by Voyou_Charmant at 11/25/09 9:49 AM Voyou_Charmant was starred Voyou_Charmant was unstarred
    Image of Poop Cooper Poop Cooper
    11/25/09

    In reply to Doubt Cast on Man Found to Be Conscious After 23-Year Coma
    FTA: "The James Randi Educational Foundation has offered a million-dollar prize to a valid demonstration of facilitated communication, and Randi invited Houben to participate. 'Our prize is still there,' he said."

    Yes, Randi, taunt the man who's paralyzed and was misdiagnosed as a coma patient for longer than the average college student has been alive.
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    Image of Ryan Heeley Ryan Heeley
    11/25/09

    @Poop Cooper: Do you know who Randi is? He'd never taunt anyone with a disability, if anything he's one of the only sane people left on this world with influence who might be able to save these people from bullshit practices.
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    Image of Poop Cooper Poop Cooper
    11/25/09

    In reply to Doubt Cast on Man Found to Be Conscious After 23-Year Coma
    Simple test: blindfold the helper, hold up an apple, and ask Mr. Houben to identify the fruit in front of him. If he can, great.

    An alternative would be that, if he can signal yes and no with his foot, to simply ask him if what the helper is transcribing is accurately reflecting what he would say in his own words.

    I don't see why there's any reason to debate this situation if he is truly cognizant and has established a system for responding without the aid of a third party.
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    Edited by Poop Cooper at 11/25/09 4:45 AM Poop Cooper was starred Poop Cooper was unstarred
    Image of GitEmSteveDave_DefinesTurgid GitEmSteveDave_DefinesTurgid
    11/25/09

    @Poop Cooper: IIRC, when they have performed IQ tests on people with the "help" of a FC, the results of the test often line up with the IQ of the FC, not the patient.
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    Image of Spongehead56 Spongehead56
    11/25/09

    @Poop Cooper:

    They have done studies using similar methods to what you're describing with children with autism. None of them have ever produced accurate results. Ever.
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    Image of jepzilla jepzilla
    11/19/09

    In reply to Finally, Hospital Lighting Reminiscent of a Cylon Base Ship
    It may just be a concept today, but when I see photos like those it makes me think 'damn, living in the future rules.'
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    Image of Michai Michai
    11/19/09

    In reply to Finally, Hospital Lighting Reminiscent of a Cylon Base Ship
    Nice images, super cool light design.
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    Image of yantelope yantelope
    11/19/09

    In reply to Finally, Hospital Lighting Reminiscent of a Cylon Base Ship
    I've seen a lot of lighting reps pushing their fluorescent lighting fixtures with designs and patterns behind them with varying degrees of success but I really like the pediatric applications. I've seen hospitals create rooms that look like undersea adventures and such. Lighting fixtures in hospital environments have much stricter standards and it's good to see companies tackling those challenges and still putting humanity behind it.
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    Image of Reil: Save Stars, Save Peach Reil: Save Stars, Save Peach
    11/15/09

    In reply to Psychic Powers, Cochlear Implants, and My Bionic Ex-Boyfriend
    Or it could help you remember where to put your keys. ;3

    If technology were to ever progress that far, I'd think that humans would sort of mesh together into a giant mind-blob... thing, with thoughts and emotions propogating and stewing throughout all the connected people.

    Also, lolcats would be EVERYWHERE. #deaf
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    Image of TheSonOfKrypton TheSonOfKrypton
    11/15/09

    In reply to Psychic Powers, Cochlear Implants, and My Bionic Ex-Boyfriend
    In the future, I wonder how many Christians will berate cybernetic enhancements as "The Mark of Beast" in the future... #deaf
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    Image of EdgarJPublius EdgarJPublius
    11/15/09

    @TheSonOfKrypton: yea, sure, the future, as if it doesn't already happen... #deaf
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    Image of franco1975 franco1975
    11/15/09

    @TheSonOfKrypton: Bad case of pot calling the kettle black most of the time.... #deaf
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    Image of TheSonOfKrypton TheSonOfKrypton
    11/15/09

    @TheSonOfKrypton: Sorry for the double "in the future"....I was about to enter a ground war game in COD MW:2 and was distracted. #deaf
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    Image of Technogen Technogen
    11/15/09

    @TheSonOfKrypton: This already happens a good bit, people are scared that putting things in you is the mark of the beast. There have been small implants to let you do anything form carry your OS around with you to unlocking doors and keeping your ID. #deaf
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    Image of Digo Digo
    11/11/09

    In reply to Most Electronics, DVDs, And Waterbottles Could Give You ED
    This discovery could single handedly reduce the plastic water bottle consumption by 50%. I know I won't be buying any anytime soon. #bisphenolacausesimpotence
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    Image of GitEmSteveDave_DefinesTurgid GitEmSteveDave_DefinesTurgid
    11/11/09

    In reply to Most Electronics, DVDs, And Waterbottles Could Give You ED
    So I should stop using a spindle of DVD's as a poorman's Fleshlight?

    Gotcha! #bisphenolacausesimpotence
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    Image of zeco zeco
    11/11/09

    @GitEmSteveDave_IsSlacking:
    I think that would be fine if you're into that.... But my question is how yours can fit into that tiny hole 0.0 #bisphenolacausesimpotence
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    Image of GitEmSteveDave_DefinesTurgid GitEmSteveDave_DefinesTurgid
    11/11/09

    @zeco: I have ED. From using the DVD's. #bisphenolacausesimpotence
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    Image of PotteryBarnClearanceSale PotteryBarnClearanceSale
    11/11/09

    In reply to Most Electronics, DVDs, And Waterbottles Could Give You ED
    Top 3 things I'm doing after reading this story:
    1. Stripping my house of plastic.
    2. Buying a glass water bottle.
    3. Getting laser eye surgery.

    Thanks Rosa. #bisphenolacausesimpotence
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    Image of Rosa Golijan Rosa Golijan
    11/11/09

    @PotteryBarnClearanceSale: You're...welcome? #bisphenolacausesimpotence
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    Image of PotteryBarnClearanceSale PotteryBarnClearanceSale
    11/11/09

    @Rosa Golijan: 2 is true. -gigidy
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    Edited by PotteryBarnClearanceSale at 11/11/09 11:16 PM PotteryBarnClearanceSale was starred PotteryBarnClearanceSale was unstarred
    Image of met2art met2art
    11/11/09

    In reply to Most Electronics, DVDs, And Waterbottles Could Give You ED
    A rise in erectile dysfunction? This growing problem would be hard to believe, if it weren't for the lengthy study . #bisphenolacausesimpotence
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    Image of Software_Goddess Software_Goddess
    11/11/09

    @met2art: LOL #bisphenolacausesimpotence
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    Image of bill cant fart bill cant fart
    11/11/09

    @met2art: You are such a jerk. Do you know hard it is for me to not say "That's what she said"? It's pretty dang hard!! #bisphenolacausesimpotence
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    Image of something_unique_and_descriptive something_unique_and_descriptive
    11/11/09

    @met2art: [www.instantrimshot.com] #bisphenolacausesimpotence
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    Image of buddyman4652 buddyman4652
    11/11/09

    @met2art: you win the internet today good sir #bisphenolacausesimpotence
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    Image of Mike Zuniga: That was Unexpected Mike Zuniga: That was Unexpected
    11/11/09

    In reply to Most Electronics, DVDs, And Waterbottles Could Give You ED
    Well, considering all our computers, TVs and cellphones are emitting small amounts of radiation (therefore increasing our chances of getting cancer) this doesn't seem like that pressing of an issue.
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    Edited by Mike Zuniga: That was Unexpected at 11/11/09 10:48 PM Mike Zuniga: That was Unexpected was starred Mike Zuniga: That was Unexpected was unstarred
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