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Sam Scott Given
08/06/09

In reply to Holograms Are Ready for Your Groping
one, that fist this is just BARELY holographic, in fact, it's the same cool tech that Johnny Chung Lee has been promoting for ages. It's just had tracking with a concave mirror thrown in.
We already have holographic touch screen displays, look up Heliodisplay.
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FredicvsMaximvs
08/06/09

@Sam Scott Given: Johnny Chung Lee does indeed have some very cool stuff going on. However, I'm guessing you didn't actually watch the video. The technology presented here is less about the display and more about fooling another of your senses, touch, into thinking that what you're seeing is physically present.
Sure, it's only on a small scale now, but think of the possibilities it presents once it's refined and made available on a larger scale. Very cool indeed.
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FrankenPC
08/06/09

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Hellholo deck!
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mjschmidt
08/06/09

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Okay, so then the question must be asked... if you are in a committed, monogamous relationship, and you interact with a holographic person is a sexual way, is it cheating?
Is cheating in the real world about sex, or the emotional "relationship", because if it's about the sex, then sex with a hologram would be cheating because it's still just sex.
If it's about the emotional relationship with the person with whom you are having sex, then sex with another person that's just about the sex is not cheating.
This all becomes even more complicated once you have human-like AIs.
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PurpleMonkeyDishwasher:
08/06/09

@mjschmidt: You could have a 'one hour stand' with a girl online whose hologram is displayed in your room all while your wife/gf is sleeping. I guess that would be cheating?

Also, if the hologram is a prerecorded image or if it's a real time replica of someone else behind a computer probably makes a difference. One is like watching porn which many women will probably not consider cheating while the other is actually interacting with another person like phone sex or cybersex or whatever.
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OCEntertainment
08/06/09

@mjschmidt: I'm gonna go with, yeah, it's cheating.
If your girlfriend/wife is not enough for you and you start looking somewhere else, despite making a commitment to love no other, then chances are she's not gonna be too thrilled regardless of the "realness" of the person.
Granted, few people make deep strong commitments to their girlfriends, so the above example is pretty much reserved for wives. But if you're ditching your girlfriend to go be with a Nintendo® VirtuaGirl.....just break up, dude. There's clearly something not right there.
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closhedbb
08/06/09

@mjschmidt: I hate to break it to you, but sex just for sex, if it's with anyone but your wife, is cheating.
"Bill, I know about you and that other woman."
"Oh come on! That was just sex, no emotions involved!"
"So you don't care about her, you just wanted to put it in her instead of me?"
"Yeah, exactly!"
"Oh, okay, you had me so worried there..."
/End unrealistic scenario
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Jux
08/06/09

@mjschmidt: If there's not a human connected to the other side, I think it gets questionable either way. How much different is it than firing up the internetz and using Rosy Palm and her five sisters? The act is the same, it's just taking out a gap in the stimulation.
Once there's a human actually controlling the other part of it, then it's clear cut in my mind.
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Kaiser-Machead
08/06/09

@mjschmidt: This will be pretty hard to contend with once the Construct is built. Mouse was single, so he was able to do whatever he wanted with the woman in the red dress, but Trinity would've kicked the shit out of Neo if he took him up on his offer.
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Coolmodo
08/06/09

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I can't wait, think of all the Pornograms we will watch (and grope)!
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appletoad
08/06/09

@Coolmodo: F*ckable porn?
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Myotheralt
08/06/09

@appletoad: A 'blow' job?
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appletoad
08/06/09

@Myotheralt: How long until 'sex' becomes a weird casual video game like in Demolition Man?
Then there comes sex hacking.
'Porn industry announces sex hack, have sex with whoever you want!'
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Bigbadbikernerd
08/06/09

@appletoad: They'll have games like "Call of booty 4" and "Left 4 head"...
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appletoad
08/06/09

@Bigbadbikernerd: hahaha.
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strider_mt2k
08/06/09

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That looks really remarkable.
Just one more step towards completely immersive environments.
Very cool.
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PurpleMonkeyDishwasher:
08/06/09

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@Porn industry: +1
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admoseremic
04/28/09

In reply to How Holographic Storage Works (Spoiler: It's a 3D CD)
"Hey, how many songs can you hold on that holographic storage disk?"

"All of them"
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bosskev
04/28/09

@admoseremic:

"Plus the entire Jerry Garcia."

"Uh...you mean the entire Jerry Garcia discography?"

"No, the entire Jerry Garcia, all the capacity of his burned-out brain. And version 2.x of holographic storage can add in all of Up With People."

"Oh. Wow."

"Of course, a floppy disk can do all that now."
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bosskev
04/28/09

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"Data drawn through chemical reactions floats [as] if suspended in gelatin."
So, with this new storage technology, you'll get the most massive bang-for-buck with Jello-shots?

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thejackamo
04/28/09

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So if the data is stored via chemical reactions, what does that do to data degradation over time?
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SewerShark: LOOK BEHIND YOU, A THREE HEADED MONKEY!!!
04/28/09

@thejackamo: I think that the chemical reactions are just for "printing" the information, not stored on chemicals.

Basically, the disc is still made of polycarbonate.
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OCEntertainment
04/28/09

@SewerShark: No, I'm pretty sure the disc is actually filled with computer Jello. That wiggles. And dries up. You get about a week to keep your data.

But I'm not sure. I didn't watch the video. But then, what else does he have those goggles for if not to protect his eyes from inevitable Jello splatter?
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ripfire
04/28/09

@OCEntertainment: I think it started off as a transparent ooze of mindless, gelatinous monster in the shape of a 10'x10' cube. It normally lives in deep caverns, absorbing and digesting living matter. But once caught, it's sliced into neat discs but still able to absorb information until it hardens.
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ripfire
04/28/09

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Why does it have to be "disc"?
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SewerShark: LOOK BEHIND YOU, A THREE HEADED MONKEY!!!
04/28/09

@ripfire: because, in this kind of storage media (optical, or analog) is the best way to access or write non linear information.

Take a cassette tape, for example, the information is linear, you must fast forward, stop, rewind the tape, and that takes time to access the information.

In a disk, the media keeps rotating, and the head (the mechanical part who reads/write the info) can search any part of the media in a fraction of a second.
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ripfire
04/28/09

@SewerShark: Well why not cylinders like the size of a small pencil?
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OMG! Ponies!
04/27/09

In reply to GE Makes Holographic Storage Breakthrough For Cheap(er) 500GB Discs
I'm not impressed. They've been talking about this since 1977.

As you can see, holographic storage has been around for years.
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OMG! Ponies!
04/27/09

@OMG! Ponies!:
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GitEmSteveDave_HazEnvy
04/27/09

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Stimulated Light Utilizing Technology or SLUT.
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Nick
04/27/09

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my guess it will be a another six years or more before we see any product using the tech. i heard of blu-ray starting around 1999 or so and if it follows the same time line it will be a while.

ps
i have no idea what i am talking about
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OCEntertainment
04/27/09

@Reply Works Again _Nick: Don't worry. You don't need to know what you're talking about.

This is the internet after all.
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Nick
04/27/09

@OCEntertainment: phew. thank god.
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dsh
04/27/09

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Now the real work begins:

Finding a product name that could not possibly be offensive in any target market.
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GitEmSteveDave_HazEnvy
04/27/09

@dsh: Lazer Blazers?
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Torley
03/04/09

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That's like Second Life. :)
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