@Lukasz Fabis: The difference is that lil' lost robot was not carrying visible dollar bills.
@hyewarrior: Hmm... they might not have shown it in the video, but I guess it's possible that someone would have beat the robot up if it was left out long enough.
Whats the big deal about them having a cellphone? You can get one from 7-11 for $7.11. Just because you are homeless does not mean you shouldn't have one. You need one to apply for jobs, and there are a lot of homeless who have jobs. Bum /= homeless. Also there are plenty of people who are NOT homeless and are bums who beg for change. Don't drop them all into one category.
I knew a man who used to take a trip out to New Jersey and picked a spot on any particularly busy exit, and beg for change from passers-by. When traffic got considerably bad, which was pretty much daily, he'd go around and ask kindly for money, and many would give him singles, fives and even up to twenties. He often went home with over $300.
i have seen cellphones as prizes in games that cost a dollar to play. don't hate unless these guys are bustin out an Omnia HD and riding away on a Segway telling Woz they will meet him in a few.
Given the current housing prices, they should be able to trade a newer device in for at least one or two pieces of property in Detroit, I would think.
Where do they send the bill for their phone, or is this a secret way family members can call their family members with street-cred without actually having to give them a room to live in? Maybe they are all carrying pre-paid devices?
I think a lot of homeless aren't really homeless. They just stand around at specific street corners as a sort of co-op to earn money and pull-in 500k per year between 4 people. That for many it really is an act.
That's mostly a myth. I'm sure it happens some places, but it is incredibly rare. More often, the beggars you mention are being pimped. A rich guy pays in beer and drugs and they collect money for him.
@Lite: thinks Scotty doesn't know.: I don't know if your joking or not, but there was a story on the Discovery Channel (or similar) about a guy who pretended to be homeless but would stand on a busy street corner washing peoples cars. He had a house and a car. He would actually drive to his intersection and park his car outta sight and the guy was making close to 6 figures a year!
@Lite: thinks Scotty doesn't know.: Montreal, for example, has many many homeless people meandering about, many of which appear to be very young kids. Some are not actually homeless, which I realized when I recognized one such person that actually lives in significant other's building. Some just like to go out and hustle for change. What with Montreal's low employment rate, I don't suppose it'll change anytime soon.
But then again, this has been going on for many years.
@ilikedachacha: That's pretty disgusting. I can only imagine that many may feel a bit ashamed to have to ask for others to reach out and give them a little something to get by, while assholes who already have their own means leech off of the kindness of others.
are you kidding me??... just cause they're homeless they aren't necessary complete retards. any person with an iq>40 can count fucking change and tell if they're being ripped off.
and to the threadstarter, that's about the most ignorant thing I've ever heard. any idea how much change you'd have to haul in per day to make 100k per year?... about $275 a day in fucking nickles and quarters?
@MistaFab: First off, I'm being somewhat sarcastic.
However I have watched several of these people at the end of the day walk a few blocks and get into a brand now $30k+ car (that isn't loaded with all of their possessions) and drive off.
Mostly I was pointing out that the people you are attempting to help out may not actually need the help, and the way in which you are helping them may not be a productive one. Have you ever offered to buy them food? The few times I have, I've been berated for it. I'll stick to volunteering at shelters instead.
As for nickles and quarters, the people milking freeway offramps are usually not receiving pocket change. They're getting bills. $275 at 5 per car average, 1 car per light, 5 minutes apart. That's what, 4.5 hours?
Lower that to $3 per car average and it's still under 8 hours.
If you get $.50 every 5 minutes, 8 hours per day, 365 days per year, that's $17k. Not kingly or better than minimum wage, but there's also no tax paid on it either.
@MistaFab: Depends where you "panhandle". I know of one person in particular who panhandled across the street from the entrance into a nice suburban Hollywood home and was getting tips of $100+ per from the rich people driving in. Then he walked around the corner to his nice white Bronco SuV and drove into the ritzy neighborhood he himself lived in across the street. 20/20 did a piece on it what... almost 10 years ago? I imagine if you did the same in the nice area of Manhatten you could get similar results. People tip alot more than nickles and quarters these days.
i don't buy the freeway arguement that straight up does not happen. you can't bank on getter a 5 every time there's a read light for 5 hours (if that's what you meant)... there's no where on earth that would happen.
maybe $17k per year beginning for change in front of starbucks. if you got a really sweet spot. i donno if you've ever worked in a busy downtown where there are lots of bums and business people, but where i live in vancouver there are a lot of creakheads, and they're fucking ecstatic if you throw them a quarter, which i would estimate more like 1/50 people who walk by actually do... if that.
sure mltdwn maybe there's some off by one case in hollywood or manhatten where some guys do better than others... but that's why they get 20/20 pieces done on them. for the most part it's pretty shitty out there
@mltdwn: And then there are people who actually WANT to be homeless. And the people who are just too insane to know that this is a really bad thing. Or, you're too deep in withdrawal from lack of money to pay for drugs.
Or any number of reasons you end up w/ homeless people pandhandling. And People panhandling even when they aren't homeless. Same reason you have people who have 8 kids and are on welfare. It pays better than a legitimate minimum wage job that requires you pay taxes.
I have no problem tossing a dollar or five to a homeless person. Perhaps buying them a lunch.
However, if you have a cellphone or some other type of gadget (I'm talking to you, iPod guy begging for cash on Hennepin Ave.) don't expect any handouts from me.
@Spero: It's from next weeks "Hell's Kitchen in Hells Kitchen". When Gordon says he wouldn't feed it to a bum, he means it. Sadly, when he told JP to "Shut it down!", there was a riot.
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Seriously Robots, why not just put everybody out of work and then put all the out of work people out of out of work while you're at it.
Stupid robots.
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@hyewarrior: Hmm... they might not have shown it in the video, but I guess it's possible that someone would have beat the robot up if it was left out long enough.
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If you have a cell phone, however, all bets are off.
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Where do they send the bill for their phone, or is this a secret way family members can call their family members with street-cred without actually having to give them a room to live in? Maybe they are all carrying pre-paid devices?
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I think a lot of homeless aren't really homeless. They just stand around at specific street corners as a sort of co-op to earn money and pull-in 500k per year between 4 people. That for many it really is an act.
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That's mostly a myth. I'm sure it happens some places, but it is incredibly rare. More often, the beggars you mention are being pimped. A rich guy pays in beer and drugs and they collect money for him.
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are you kidding me??... just cause they're homeless they aren't necessary complete retards. any person with an iq>40 can count fucking change and tell if they're being ripped off.
and to the threadstarter, that's about the most ignorant thing I've ever heard. any idea how much change you'd have to haul in per day to make 100k per year?... about $275 a day in fucking nickles and quarters?
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However I have watched several of these people at the end of the day walk a few blocks and get into a brand now $30k+ car (that isn't loaded with all of their possessions) and drive off.
Mostly I was pointing out that the people you are attempting to help out may not actually need the help, and the way in which you are helping them may not be a productive one. Have you ever offered to buy them food? The few times I have, I've been berated for it. I'll stick to volunteering at shelters instead.
As for nickles and quarters, the people milking freeway offramps are usually not receiving pocket change. They're getting bills. $275 at 5 per car average, 1 car per light, 5 minutes apart. That's what, 4.5 hours?
Lower that to $3 per car average and it's still under 8 hours.
If you get $.50 every 5 minutes, 8 hours per day, 365 days per year, that's $17k. Not kingly or better than minimum wage, but there's also no tax paid on it either.
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i don't buy the freeway arguement that straight up does not happen. you can't bank on getter a 5 every time there's a read light for 5 hours (if that's what you meant)... there's no where on earth that would happen.
maybe $17k per year beginning for change in front of starbucks. if you got a really sweet spot. i donno if you've ever worked in a busy downtown where there are lots of bums and business people, but where i live in vancouver there are a lot of creakheads, and they're fucking ecstatic if you throw them a quarter, which i would estimate more like 1/50 people who walk by actually do... if that.
sure mltdwn maybe there's some off by one case in hollywood or manhatten where some guys do better than others... but that's why they get 20/20 pieces done on them. for the most part it's pretty shitty out there
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Or any number of reasons you end up w/ homeless people pandhandling. And People panhandling even when they aren't homeless. Same reason you have people who have 8 kids and are on welfare. It pays better than a legitimate minimum wage job that requires you pay taxes.
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However, if you have a cellphone or some other type of gadget (I'm talking to you, iPod guy begging for cash on Hennepin Ave.) don't expect any handouts from me.
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Thank you.
Thank you, very much.
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I love South Park.