Hsdpa - Gizmodo

posts about #hsdpa more →
T-Mobile 3G Data Will Hit 21Mbps In 2010
AT&T Bumping its 3G to HSPA 7.2 in Six More Cities
Novatel MiFi 2372 Makes Portable 3G Wi-Fi Hotspot Awesomeness Possible on AT&T and T-Mobile
iPhone 3GS Upstream Speed Limited to 384Kbps
Giz Explains: What AT&T's 7.2Mbps Network Really Means
Sony Vaio P Modded To Accept SIM Cards, 3G via HSDPA Connection
New York City 3G Data Test: AT&T, Sprint and Verizon
The Definitive Coast-to-Coast 3G Data Test
SF and Bay Area 3G Data Test: AT&T, Sprint and Verizon
Portland 3G Data Test: AT&T, Sprint and Verizon

Your version of Internet Explorer is not supported. Please upgrade to the most recent version in order to view comments.

Dsmvwl Admin Promote to frontpage Approve user Ban user ×

Mozoltov, motherfucker
09/11/09

In reply to T-Mobile 3G Data Will Hit 21Mbps In 2010
21Mbps with a 2gb monthly cap. yeah, that will work.
Reply

UnderLoK
09/12/09

@Mozoltov, motherfucker: You know what I don't get... Sprint too has the same cap, but I do gigs a week and they never charge me a dime.
Reply

UnderLoK was starred UnderLoK was unstarred

met2art
09/11/09

In reply to T-Mobile 3G Data Will Hit 21Mbps In 2010
Considering that nobody gets even close to the 7.2Mbps limit on 3G, and even 3G isn't "fully" rolled-out for any carrier, it makes little sense to try to expand an entirely new infrastructure for higher theoretical speeds that will require new phones to use more power and adhere to new standards. I think T-Mo has the right idea here, and it'll give them an edge (no pun intended) on providing high speeds to a bigger market. T-Mo has already expanded 3G a lot in my area; I now have a solid 25 mile radius 3G connection at around 600k to 1Mbps, which for now is more than adequate for streaming video, music, or broadcasting video with Qik.
Reply

switchblade saints promoted this comment met2art was starred met2art was unstarred

scoobydoo
09/11/09

In reply to T-Mobile 3G Data Will Hit 21Mbps In 2010
For T-Mobile, expanding 3G speed is easy - with such limited coverage :(

I really love my MT3G, but as soon as I leave the city, I'm back to EDGE.
Reply

scoobydoo was starred scoobydoo was unstarred

OCEntertainment
09/11/09

In reply to T-Mobile 3G Data Will Hit 21Mbps In 2010
Eh, it's not a bad idea. And if the tech world has taught us anything it's that three years behind is roughly where you wanna be for cheap powerful hardware. T-Mo hunkers down for a bit, squeezes some actually pretty impressive speeds out of their current network, while the big dogs pour money into new networks, driving the cost of those networks down and dealing with all the hiccups in the tech along the way.

Meanwhile, T-Mo's current 3G customers enjoy some hefty speed boosts without buying any new hardware. Customers enjoy the new power, while T-Mo enjoys the good press. Because surely, uninformed customers will be wondering why they have to buy whole new phones for super-fast speeds, while their buddy with the myTouch keeps getting better speeds on the same phone.

I mean, there's about a hundred ways to spin this, and there's trade-offs sure, but this could actually be a really good move for T-Mobile. Provided they don't neglect all plans for a 4G network eventually.
Reply

OCEntertainment was starred OCEntertainment was unstarred

lladnar
09/11/09

@OCEntertainment: but in 4 years, when everyone has a new 4G phone T-Mobile subscribers will be saying "Why is my phone so much slower than my buddy who has ATT, Verizon, etc."
Reply

OCEntertainment promoted this comment lladnar was starred lladnar was unstarred

OCEntertainment
09/11/09

@lladnar: Maybe. As the chart (which admittedly, came from a different article: [gizmodo.com]) shows, there's a difference between theoretical and actual. Maybe they'll be pushing over 20Mbps, maybe not. Will the phones processors' themselves catch up to the speed of the network they're on? Again, 4G is not the be-all end-all on bandwidth and speed capabilities. Getting the most for their money, I still say, is a good move for T-Mo.
Reply

OCEntertainment was starred OCEntertainment was unstarred

JosephRaymond
09/11/09

In reply to T-Mobile 3G Data Will Hit 21Mbps In 2010
21Mbps seems like a lot for a phone. hopefully Comcast will die in favor of wireless data solutions, but unless you're downloading huge amounts of data(on your phone?) can you really tell the difference between 21Mbps and 7.2 by just browsing?
Reply

OCEntertainment promoted this comment JosephRaymond was starred JosephRaymond was unstarred

OCEntertainment
09/11/09

@JosephRaymond: That's a good point. And honestly, a bunch of mobile apps are developed specifically for low-bandwidth solutions. Not to mention that you're still limited by how much data your phone can process (500Kbps is faster on a lappy than it is on a phone).

That being said, if their bandwidth were that fat, it'd still open up opportunities. Maybe tethering would become a more acceptable option? Also, it might give way to more realistic mobile video options. I mean, yeah, I have a YouTube app on my G1....but do I really wanna wait forever to watch a video on it? No. Maybe if it was quicker, though.

And I definitely couldn't agree more about Comcast. DIEE!!!
Reply

OCEntertainment was starred OCEntertainment was unstarred

isoSasquatch
09/09/09

In reply to AT&T Bumping its 3G to HSPA 7.2 in Six More Cities
Will this solve the dead zone in my West Hollywood neighborhood? I'll start worrying about 3G data speed once I can receive phone calls in my house.
Reply

Adam Frucci promoted this comment isoSasquatch was starred isoSasquatch was unstarred

dingus
09/09/09

In reply to AT&T Bumping its 3G to HSPA 7.2 in Six More Cities
Is AT&T doing anything about their slow-ass backhaul?
Reply

dingus was starred dingus was unstarred

Barry99705
09/09/09

@dingus: Nope.
Reply

Barry99705 was starred Barry99705 was unstarred

dingus
09/09/09

@dingus: The Other Site Whose Name Must Not Be Mentioned In These Pristine Comments sez the backhaul will be upgraded somehow.
Reply

dingus was starred dingus was unstarred

Monty
09/09/09

In reply to AT&T Bumping its 3G to HSPA 7.2 in Six More Cities
Okay geeks of Gizmodo, help me understand: The problem with AT&T (as reported by AT&T) is that there are way too many iPhones using way too much bandwidth causing amazing slowdowns on their network. Will a faster 3G network actually help this problem in any way when the issue is the number of users? Sure, once half of the iPhone customers jump ship to Verizon next year things should improve (and test Verizon's "It's the network"), but until then, isn't the faster speed something that few people will truly notice except at 3 a.m. when all of those blasted iPhones are recharging?
Reply

Monty was starred Monty was unstarred

appletoad
09/09/09

@Monty: Why would iPhone users leave for Verizon? They suck too.
Reply

Monty promoted this comment appletoad was starred appletoad was unstarred

snitch
09/09/09

@Monty: If you really belief that the iPhone is making a dent into AT&T network let me ask you this, When has AT&T service been great, when? AT&T has been dropping calls since i can remember and their data network has always suck, matter fact when the iPhone was release was the only time they decided to do something about it. The iPhone makes little to no affect to the AT&T network, their network is screw up by nature, but it's getting better quick.
Reply

Monty promoted this comment snitch was starred snitch was unstarred

Monty
09/09/09

@appletoad: Compared to AT&T, Verizon is heaven. I could give you the dozen experiences I have had with AT&T that prove my point (one where they tried to rip us off by tens of thousands of dollars), but in my opinion they have to be one of the worst corporate entities out there.

That said, if we assume AT&T's claims that it is the number of iPhone users crippling their network (I am not arguing that is correct), then does speeding up their network actually help that claimed problem in any way? I gather we do not know the answer to this, but I suppose we will find out.
Reply

Monty was starred Monty was unstarred

Monty
09/09/09

@snitch: I really needed to bold the "as reported by AT&T". Trust me, I don't believe anything AT&T says, but my question is - if what they are claiming is true, does speeding up their network help at all? I think the answer to that question is "no", but was hoping a geek smarter than me would have a better answer than my guess.
Reply

Monty was starred Monty was unstarred

€hЯ!§
09/09/09

In reply to AT&T Bumping its 3G to HSPA 7.2 in Six More Cities
I thought these were just mainly software updates. Why are they only getting 6 cities in by the end of this year?
Reply

Adam Frucci promoted this comment €hЯ!§ was starred €hЯ!§ was unstarred

Adam Frucci
09/09/09

@Chris: These are significant hardware upgrades to AT&Ts towers and such, not software.
Reply

Adam Frucci was starred Adam Frucci was unstarred

€hЯ!§
09/09/09

@Adam Frucci: Then what's with all the nonsense I've been reading on lots of different tech sites that say it's mainly software updates that would require little or no hardware modifications? I could swear Gizmodo is one of them.
Reply

€hЯ!§ was starred €hЯ!§ was unstarred

dcdttu
07/09/09

In reply to iPhone 3GS Upstream Speed Limited to 384Kbps
That's SO AT&T, release something on their network AFTER the fact that the iPhone claims to do now while most other networks around the world match the iPhone's abilities as it comes out, if not surpasses them.

They are still overlaying 850mhz 3G on networks that are practically worthless without them, and that is over a year after many have already paid for 3G service 12+ times in an area that 'has 3G' on AT&T's maps, but in reality doesn't.

For shame, AT&T...
Reply

Edited by dcdttu at 07/09/09 5:57 PM dcdttu was starred dcdttu was unstarred

citizen024
07/09/09

In reply to iPhone 3GS Upstream Speed Limited to 384Kbps
Another thing the HTC Hero pwns the 3GS with, 2Mbps up-link FTW!!! Cant wait to get mine, and the cool thing is that Swedish networks support HSUPA!!!
Reply

citizen024 was starred citizen024 was unstarred

sam-i-am
07/09/09

In reply to iPhone 3GS Upstream Speed Limited to 384Kbps
You're confusing network speed with radio speed. Although the radio in the 3G S is a 7.2mbps radio, AT&T does not offer that download speed except in a few places. Also, nobody ever advertised that you could download at 7.2mbps on AT&T's network, just that the radio supports it.

So no matter how hard you try, you'll never download 7.2mbps on your iPhone 3G S until AT&T upgrades their towers in your area to support it.
Reply

sam-i-am was starred sam-i-am was unstarred

chrishannan
07/09/09

In reply to iPhone 3GS Upstream Speed Limited to 384Kbps
WoW. No matter how awesome the phone is, people will always find something to complain about.

When batteries last a whole month before you have to charge it, you'll complain that you have to charge it at all. When one country supports faster speeds, you'll blame them for Apple not making the iPhone support those speeds.

Seriously, did anyone consider that maybe Apple was the one that made this decision on their own and not AT&T?
Reply

chrishannan was starred chrishannan was unstarred

stopsucking
07/09/09

In reply to iPhone 3GS Upstream Speed Limited to 384Kbps
I'm not concerned with an upload block. I'm more concerned with the horrrrrrrific battery life of the 3GS/3.0 OS. I am having to charge the phone multiple times per day. And don't tell me to "disable push" or "turn off bluetooth" because that's not a solution. It's like having a new car with poor gas mileage and suggesting that I should "not use the AC". Pssh.
Reply

stopsucking was starred stopsucking was unstarred

MosesMonster
07/09/09

@stopsucking: Don't use your ac. Open a window :D

I agree though, the battery life is sort of shitty, but I found that if you use EDGE instead of 3G and you buff down the brightness to a little lower than half (if you are in direct sunlight, it doesn't even matter anyway) you should be golden. That bluetooth though KILLS the battery. Turn it off when it's not in use at least.
Reply

MosesMonster was starred MosesMonster was unstarred

TheSonOfKrypton
07/09/09

@stopsucking: Yea, I was gonna say....How the hell do you expect an iPhone, or ANY PHONE for that matter to survive a whole day with Bluetooth on. Bluetooth is KNOWN for being a power WHORE. Turn that off when you're not using it dude, in the interest of your battery.

And in the interest of maximizing your battery life, I'm gonna give you a quick run down on what I've done to achieve ridiculous battery life on the iPhone I've had for almost two years now: keep WiFI ON (when it comes to internet battery consumption Wifi
Reply

TheSonOfKrypton was starred TheSonOfKrypton was unstarred

Digitallysick
07/09/09

In reply to iPhone 3GS Upstream Speed Limited to 384Kbps
Ohhh America why does your cell service suck
Reply

Digitallysick was starred Digitallysick was unstarred

Earlier threads | All threads | Show hidden threads | Show featured threads only | Start a new discussion

Gizmodo Team

SUBSCRIBE TO Gizmodo

Login

Reset Password

Register

Submit Your Comment