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dcdttu
07/09/09

In reply to iPhone 3GS Upstream Speed Limited to 384Kbps
That's SO AT&T, release something on their network AFTER the fact that the iPhone claims to do now while most other networks around the world match the iPhone's abilities as it comes out, if not surpasses them.

They are still overlaying 850mhz 3G on networks that are practically worthless without them, and that is over a year after many have already paid for 3G service 12+ times in an area that 'has 3G' on AT&T's maps, but in reality doesn't.

For shame, AT&T...
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citizen024
07/09/09

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Another thing the HTC Hero pwns the 3GS with, 2Mbps up-link FTW!!! Cant wait to get mine, and the cool thing is that Swedish networks support HSUPA!!!
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sam-i-am
07/09/09

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You're confusing network speed with radio speed. Although the radio in the 3G S is a 7.2mbps radio, AT&T does not offer that download speed except in a few places. Also, nobody ever advertised that you could download at 7.2mbps on AT&T's network, just that the radio supports it.

So no matter how hard you try, you'll never download 7.2mbps on your iPhone 3G S until AT&T upgrades their towers in your area to support it.
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chrishannan
07/09/09

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WoW. No matter how awesome the phone is, people will always find something to complain about.

When batteries last a whole month before you have to charge it, you'll complain that you have to charge it at all. When one country supports faster speeds, you'll blame them for Apple not making the iPhone support those speeds.

Seriously, did anyone consider that maybe Apple was the one that made this decision on their own and not AT&T?
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stopsucking
07/09/09

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I'm not concerned with an upload block. I'm more concerned with the horrrrrrrific battery life of the 3GS/3.0 OS. I am having to charge the phone multiple times per day. And don't tell me to "disable push" or "turn off bluetooth" because that's not a solution. It's like having a new car with poor gas mileage and suggesting that I should "not use the AC". Pssh.
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MosesMonster
07/09/09

@stopsucking: Don't use your ac. Open a window :D

I agree though, the battery life is sort of shitty, but I found that if you use EDGE instead of 3G and you buff down the brightness to a little lower than half (if you are in direct sunlight, it doesn't even matter anyway) you should be golden. That bluetooth though KILLS the battery. Turn it off when it's not in use at least.
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TheSonOfKrypton
07/09/09

@stopsucking: Yea, I was gonna say....How the hell do you expect an iPhone, or ANY PHONE for that matter to survive a whole day with Bluetooth on. Bluetooth is KNOWN for being a power WHORE. Turn that off when you're not using it dude, in the interest of your battery.

And in the interest of maximizing your battery life, I'm gonna give you a quick run down on what I've done to achieve ridiculous battery life on the iPhone I've had for almost two years now: keep WiFI ON (when it comes to internet battery consumption Wifi
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Digitallysick
07/09/09

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Ohhh America why does your cell service suck
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kbftech
07/09/09

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I would subscribe any time to a fast, reliable, unlimited* wireless network that would cost about the same as the wired one. Who wouldnt?

The major problem for me is that it costs way too much to use 3g as primary internet access. 30$/month is quite expensive for the averge Joe who doesnt badly needs it. Hence, what's the use of a netbook if you don't have internet on the go... I bet netbooks sales would go to the roof if some sort of network existed and besides, why bother using a wired network when the wiresless one gives about the same, costs about the same and is accessible anywhere*?

Theres a need there and theres money to be made by doing it: it's meant to be. The question is who will do it and when?
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tok3ninja
07/09/09

@kbftech: With 4G coming up down the ever shortening road we may see it sooner than we thought.
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atlasspanked
07/09/09

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Gee, wireless technology is grossly overpromised - again.
What a surprise!

If internet, telecom, and computer companies were subject to truth-in-advertising laws, they'd all be in jail.

American telecom: "Keeping things primitive until we can jack up your price on the level of service we originally advertised."

This gets so old.
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Eavangel
07/09/09

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So does this mean that the G1 or the newer MyTouch or Hero will suffer from the same problem if they are GSM? if so, I think i'll still pick up an iPhone. It's not like i'm hosting a website off it or anything.

When would i notice the lack of upload speed? Anyone know of any popular apps in particular?
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Yinzers Are People Too
07/09/09

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Could someone explain why they needed to put a hardware block in place? Why not just allow the phone to try and upload at the higher speed? Wouldn't it just hit the limit and not be able to move faster anyway? Or did I misread something?
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nutbastard
07/09/09

@Yinzers Are Celebrating the Stanley Cup:

they didn't intentionally and arbitrarily throttle it; the hardware simply doesn't support speeds higher than 384kbps.
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Geisrud
07/09/09

@Yinzers Are Celebrating the Stanley Cup: it's the same way my laptop doesn't "support" running the processor at 10GHz. It's not that it can, but they blocked it. Or to say it another way, the hardware "cannot do it Captain."
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Yinzers Are People Too
07/09/09

@nutbastard: @Geisrud:
Ahh okay. So it was me misunderstanding the article. I kind of thought that was it. Thanks for the clarification, guys!
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kuriakos
07/09/09

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I'm still chugging along on my original 2G and I can't really decide if I want to go ahead and get a 3GS (despite my constant bitching about the iPhone) or hold out for a Pre on Verizon so I can get off ATT (which for some reason is really inconsistent in the San Gabriel Valley).
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eagles3 speeeedin
07/09/09

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wow that is disappointingly slow. While I care much less about upload speeds, and I dont own an iPhone, I still think this is kind of strangely slow.
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nutbastard
07/09/09

@Lance eagles3strong:

that's a megabyte in 3 seconds. 20 megs a minute. how much do you really ~~want~~ need?
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Zordon
07/09/09

@nutbastard: theoretical speed =/= actual speed. Especially since AT&T is probably scanning everything to figure out how to best sell information to ad networks; that's got to slow things down.
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Geisrud
07/09/09

@nutbastard: hold the fort - there's a much more important issue here. How did you get strikethrough to work?
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Steve
07/09/09

@nutbastard:
We are talking 384 kbits per second not kbytes per second. It takes 3 seconds to upload a megabit which is only 1/8 of a megabyte. It would take 21 seconds to upload a megabyte.
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TheSonOfKrypton
07/09/09

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OOoOOoooooooooooooooohhhhh. This doesn't bode well against the anti-iPhone crowd. Now they are going to have another meaningless, obscure hardware advantage to brag about since we all know: Technical specifications define how awesome a phone is!
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Itspeat!
07/09/09

@TheSonOfKrypton: i'm thinking the same exact thing.
But then again are there really that many people getting it solely for the internet speed boosts? i would just like to have it due to the processor urgrade
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kuriakos
07/09/09

@TheSonOfKrypton: iPhone fanboys did their fair share of this sort of bragging back when the iPhone's specs were still impressive.
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TheSonOfKrypton
07/09/09

@kuriakos: When were the iPhone's specs impressive?
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32ndnote
07/09/09

@Itspeat!: It's really all about playing video games. That's what life is about; that's what the 3GS is about. | Apple increased speeds to allow more games and thus get more girls to buy iPhones.
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kuriakos
07/09/09

@TheSonOfKrypton: haha touche (btw where is my flash support dammit)
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fleebailey33
07/09/09

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and imagine if they refereed to bytes instead of bits for bandwidth, saying bits sounds like its 8x more then it is.

And with companies using the broad term 3g everything sounds the same. Most people never heard of HSUPA/HDPA/UMTS,

does gizmodo have a 3g chart of the technologies and companies, explaining these terms? would be a great article
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Brian Lam
07/09/09

@fleebailey33: did that, I think, awhile back. google giz explains wireless or something
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~/Desktop
07/09/09

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I think that might be faster than my home upload speed. xD
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Sandeep Dinesh
07/09/09

@~/Desktop: Faster upload and download than mine.
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